Radfield  Canada. February 03 2012 06:29. Posts 2679 | Profile # |
On February 03 2012 05:44 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 05:39 Radfield wrote:
prepare for me to lurk my ass off day 1
Making excuses! Lynch him!
I always like to hedge my bets in case I roll scum  |
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| Radfield Canada. February 03 2012 06:54. Posts 2679 | Profile # |
| Will mafia be provided any safe claims? |
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| Toadesstern Germany. February 03 2012 07:04. Posts 6103 | Profile # |
I don't even have to tell people I'm going to lurk because everyone knows I'm quite lurky all the time and I'm hardly posting at all, no matter if mafia or town.
I'm so much more forsighted than radfield.
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| VisceraEyes United States. February 03 2012 07:07. Posts 9664 | Profile Blog # |
| I'm going to post insane ramblings regardless of alignment. Be warned. |
| | Come on and give it to me. Come on and die. ****TL MAFIA LI - NEVER FORGET**** |
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| Bill Murray United States. February 03 2012 08:17. Posts 7053 | Profile Blog # |
| This player list looks really good so far. |
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| rgTheSchworz Romania. February 03 2012 17:25. Posts 425 | Profile # |
/in
Let's make it better.
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| syllogism Finland. February 03 2012 18:15. Posts 5337 | Profile # |
Since there are no clues, there doesn't seem to be much incentive for batman and catwoman to use their DT powers rather than just killing people. Further, if town discovers who batman is, they generally don't have a reason to lynch him, especially if joker and possibly catwoman are already dead. It makes more sense for Batman to shoot into scummy players anyway because mafia is shooting into town and will likely kill joker for him eventually. Batman might not even care about town discovering him. I guess what I'm trying to say is that batman should both choose to appear as batman in DT checks.
Perhaps the setup is balanced around this, but the third party dynamics seem slightly less interesting than in Arkham Asylum. I suppose the point is that one of the third parties is semi-town aligned and one is semi-mafia.
e: the above doesn't account for Hugo strange dying early and Joker still being alive, but in that situation it might be beneficial for town to have Joker role claim so that Batman can just shoot him and get removed from the game.Last edit: 2012-02-03 19:21:13 |
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| rgTheSchworz Romania. February 03 2012 18:26. Posts 425 | Profile # |
Syllo, If Batman wins, Town loses. IF Joker is dead, then town must kill the batman before he kills Hugo Strange.
Read the OP. Except for Batman-Catwoman, ppl from different factions shouldn't collaborate if they know their partner's role.
IMO, it's a really interesting setup, with 4 parties that are seemingly balanced, and Name-based dynamic adds another slice of skill, but also some randomness.
Batman/Catwoman should really use DT as well, he doesnt benefit as much as a SK from killing random targets.
If this lasts 7 game days or so, it'll be epic most likely, with 3 factions having a chance to win entering the last stretch. |
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| syllogism Finland. February 03 2012 18:31. Posts 5337 | Profile # |
On February 03 2012 18:26 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Syllo, If Batman wins, Town loses. IF Joker is dead, then town must kill the batman before he kills Hugo Strange.
Read the OP. Except for Batman-Catwoman, ppl from different factions shouldn't collaborate if they know their partner's role.
IMO, it's a really interesting setup, with 4 parties that are seemingly balanced, and Name-based dynamic adds another slice of skill, but also some randomness.
Batman/Catwoman should really use DT as well, he doesnt benefit as much as a SK from killing random targets.
If this lasts 7 game days or so, it'll be epic most likely, with 3 factions having a chance to win entering the last stretch.
The OP isn't clear and the exact win cons aren't listed, but it's likely that the third parties win and are removed from the game immediately when they fulfil their win cons. Them winning does not preclude the other factions from winning. |
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| rgTheSchworz Romania. February 03 2012 18:43. Posts 425 | Profile # |
Looking at Arkham asylum, 3rd party couldn't win with town or mafia. I'm basing my opinion on that.
Their wincons are, however stated:
Batman: Wins if Hugo strange and Joker dead.
Catwoman:Wins if Two face and Penguin dead |
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| syllogism Finland. February 03 2012 18:46. Posts 5337 | Profile # |
| Yes they could as long as they fulfilled their win con. The only one that couldn't was Joker, who was a standard serial killer role. |
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| rgTheSchworz Romania. February 03 2012 19:03. Posts 425 | Profile # | |
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| syllogism Finland. February 03 2012 19:05. Posts 5337 | Profile # |
Umm and town won too. I participated in that game and I can assure you I always read. This is what you claimed
If Batman wins, Town loses. IF Joker is dead, then town must kill the batman before he kills Hugo Strange.
Town does not lose if Batman wins.Last edit: 2012-02-03 19:06:23 |
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| rgTheSchworz Romania. February 03 2012 19:06. Posts 425 | Profile # |
| Ah, I just thought last 5 pages were after-game rants. |
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| syllogism Finland. February 03 2012 19:08. Posts 5337 | Profile # |
On February 03 2012 19:06 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Ah, I just thought last 5 pages were after-game rants.
No, actually the game did end, but only because the last mafia died too. |
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| Toadesstern Germany. February 03 2012 21:26. Posts 6103 | Profile # |
yeah thought so as well. I really see no point in using your DT power at all, just shooting into reds should solve the problem as well. Even if you hit a green it's not like that's the end of the world and if town wins you win as well because if all mafia are dead the ones you are supposed to kill are probably dead as well.
Pretty much the same for cat woman imo. Line em up, keep shooting  |
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| rgTheSchworz Romania. February 03 2012 21:56. Posts 425 | Profile # |
Nay, you would make a bad Batman, Toad.
You gotta kill 2 ppl, one scum one not. Out of say 40, do you know the odds of shooting 2 specific ppl?
DT helps as well because you find allies sometimes, which is helpful when playing on your own basically.
Between kill X and DT X, kill X if it's late in the game,DT if early.
Why? Because if you find town blues or Red power roles early, you benefit from following their train of thought, then deducing your targets by exclusion.
For example, you find Hugo Strange as Catwoman, you look for whom he may have protected, those are scum and therefore not your targets, as you have to kill 2 blues.
Better, you find a town DT. From his thread presence you deduce whom he has investigated, and shoot amongst those he confs as town.
DT is useful, it only delays your kill count by 1, and you don't end up killing players that make other player's win condition easier to achieve. Else you may end up killing scum and lose because eventually town wins.
You're a bluehunter basically. From the 4 targetsof BM/CW, only 1 is red.
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| Toadesstern Germany. February 03 2012 22:04. Posts 6103 | Profile # |
| oh right batman has to hit a mafia and a town, thought it's 2 mafias. So what I said obviously was fail :D |
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