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 SgtCoDFish   United Kingdom. January 26 2012 02:47. Posts 1455
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I noticed this as I logged into B.net; it's a blog by David Kim answering some questions about some current hot topics in SC2.

The topics he discusses are:

  • Mass Mutalisks vs. Protoss
  • Protoss Win Rate is Too Low in Tournaments
  • Carrier Removal in Heart of the Swarm
  • Terran Can’t Beat Protoss
  • Ghost EMP is Too Weak
  • Forge Fast Expand is Difficult to Stop as Zerg
  • Nydus Worm is Too Inconsistent — Make It More Like the Overlord Transport


Here's the intro and a link to the blog:

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I recently took an opportunity to share some of the feedback I received from pro players at the G Star event in Korea via a Q & A, and I was interested to see your reactions to that discussion in the blog comments and on the forum. I noticed that some players were worried that we don’t take the community’s feedback into account, and that we only listen to pro players. While we base our balance decisions on many different factors, including pro player feedback, internal testing, tournament play and more, our player community remains a vital source of feedback about StarCraft II. Every week we comb various forums and sites to get a feel for what our players are experiencing, and I thought I’d comment on some of the concerns we’ve seen appear in the community recently.


http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/3599263/Questions_from_the_Community_-25_01_2012#blog

I thought it was pretty interesting, and it answers some of the questions I would've liked to ask him myself. Enjoy. :D
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 straycat   January 26 2012 02:52. Posts 182
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sweet, thanks!
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 -stOpSKY-   Canada. January 26 2012 02:53. Posts 481
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I wouldnt mind seeing some sort of change to muta in pvz. Its very hard to move out or take a third/fourth once zerg is sitting on a mass number of muta on 3-4 bases.
 
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 JudicatorHammurabi   United States. January 26 2012 02:53. Posts 2040
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I was about to his "Post Message", but then I refreshed SC2 general and saw this already posted.

Nice thread and Q&A. It's inspiring to say the least .
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  SeaSwift   Scotland. January 26 2012 02:55. Posts 4485Profile Blog # 
Some of the replies are pretty hilarious.

It is the battle.net forums after all, I guess.

Edit: as far as the article itself goes, it reassures me that they are keeping in contact with the community. Something I've been interested to know for quite some time is how much they look at TL, compared to other forums and especially Battle.net. Of course, for lower league complaining you'd typically go straight for Battle.net, because that kind of thing is frowned upon here, but I wonder if some unlucky bloke is given the task of trawling through the Balance Discussion Thread and the LR threads every so often.

No answers reek of genius, but all of them seem sensible. I'm happy with it
Last edit: 2012-01-26 02:58:49
 
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 Noocta   France. January 26 2012 02:55. Posts 8759
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Some interessing thought from Kim.
It's still pretty much " blabla we can't do a lot right now, wait for HotS " but it has some meaning behind it. Not like when Browder talk.
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 Sackings   Canada. January 26 2012 02:55. Posts 452
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what he said about changing the phx to better counter the muta gives me some hope! thx TC
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 Orracle   United States. January 26 2012 02:56. Posts 310
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Glad to see he actually acknowledged there might be changes before HOTS.
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 HelloSon   United States. January 26 2012 02:57. Posts 390
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If it was such a drastic change, wouldn't they just wait for HotS?

Maybe this means HotS is still far away...
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 .kv   United States. January 26 2012 02:57. Posts 2155
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glad they are aware of Mutas in PvZ but can't believe there are complaints about emp being too weak
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 Dingodile   January 26 2012 02:59. Posts 464
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"Ghost EMP is Too Weak"
Cant believe that this is true, especially at tvp. I saw in every tournament terran always snacked protoss if they used emp very well.
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 sotaporo   Finland. January 26 2012 03:00. Posts 145
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i knew terran was weakest race below pro level=D finally someone with credit says that
 
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 blade55555   United States. January 26 2012 03:01. Posts 14254
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On January 26 2012 02:57 .kv wrote:
glad they are aware of Mutas in PvZ but can't believe there are complaints about emp being too weak


That's how I feel on players saying protoss is to weak.

Honestly game balance wise I think the games pretty good. Was an interesting read but not really much was addressed. Sounds like they are probably just going to wait for HOTS for any major changes again.


On January 26 2012 03:00 sotaporo wrote:
i knew terran was weakest race below pro level=D finally someone with credit says that


They are "weakest" at lower levels because lower level players can't play terran that great. Its not a balance problem its a skill problem.
Last edit: 2012-01-26 03:02:48
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 xBillehx   United States. January 26 2012 03:02. Posts 1288
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I like that there's been enough of an outcry to warrant a response on removing the Carrier. Gives me hope that they're still trying to work on it internally, even if it does end up going through a design change.
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 Treehead   January 26 2012 03:05. Posts 999
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The top level of play in SC2 is certainly a testament to how quickly the human mind can learn to think and adapt in new and abstract environments - which I've always thought is inspiring. Then, I see comments like these:

•Protoss Win Rate is Too Low in Tournaments

•Terran Can’t Beat Protoss

•Forge Fast Expand is Difficult to Stop as Zerg

The fact that these three are all "hot topics" - and mutually exclusive - is a testament to just how idiotic the human mind can be in large groups. I suppose you take the good with the bad, eh?
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  SeaSwift   Scotland. January 26 2012 03:06. Posts 4485Profile Blog # 

On January 26 2012 03:01 blade55555 wrote:

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On January 26 2012 02:57 .kv wrote:
glad they are aware of Mutas in PvZ but can't believe there are complaints about emp being too weak



That's how I feel on players saying protoss is to weak.

Honestly game balance wise I think the games pretty good. Was an interesting read but not really much was addressed. Sounds like they are probably just going to wait for HOTS for any major changes again.


I get the feeling that question is more a leftover from a couple of months ago. Like, a couple of months ago Protoss looked almost unplayable in Code S. Since a couple of buffs, The Protoss President coming out of his slump and play becoming more refined in general Protoss seems to be making a recurrence and at the moment, I absolutely agree. Outside of ZvP now and again, Protoss doesn't have any issues at all.

Again, I reckon that he was replying to questions that were asked a while ago, or maybe the leftovers of that whine.
 
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 Tsubbi   Germany. January 26 2012 03:07. Posts 6273
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somehow it baffles me how blizzard is ignoring the utter domination of terran at the highest skill level, especially korea which is what an esports game should be balanced around

everyone is joking about it, everyone knows it, even koreans joke all the time about it, yet the only glimmer of community interaction by blizzard talks about carriers, nydus worms and ghosts being too weak

what needs to happen, more than 20 terrans in code s?
 
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 Antares_   Poland. January 26 2012 03:07. Posts 263
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Pretty cool. If they are not intending on changing anything, because HotS is coming soon, the "soon" is sooner that many people expect
Also, I think it would be quite hard to buff Terran on lower level without making him OP on the higher level. The same about Protoss, I can't see nerfing it on the higher level, while nerfing on lower. Even though, buffing Phoenix would be quite a good idea, as it is underused in every matchup, in my opinion.
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 CounterOrder   Canada. January 26 2012 03:07. Posts 447
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If the Carrier stays in HotS i might just let out a battle cry that will be heard across oceans!
 
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 TT1   Canada. January 26 2012 03:08. Posts 5683
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phoenix's deal splash damage to air units. bam problem fixed
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