| Fts Sweden. February 26 2012 06:31. Posts 345 | Profile # |
damn, missed that baron fight due to a lagspike  |
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| Craton United States. February 26 2012 06:32. Posts 10177 | Profile Blog # |
On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying 
Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.
200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.Last edit: 2012-02-26 06:33:01 |
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| Slayer91 Ireland. February 26 2012 06:33. Posts 8821 | Profile # |
| 200 ping feels HUGE when I have to play with it. Especally in udyr who relies so much on autohitting and moving after. |
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| Chiharu Harukaze February 26 2012 06:33. Posts 6455 | Profile # |
Mono E-Sports 3v5 and take mid inhib. Huh.
So I suppose their win over TSM in IPL Killing Spree was legit. |
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| Craton United States. February 26 2012 06:34. Posts 10177 | Profile Blog # |
On February 26 2012 06:33 Slayer91 wrote:
200 ping feels HUGE when I have to play with it. Especally in udyr who relies so much on autohitting and moving after.
It has an effect, sure, but when they're missing by the margin stated earlier then it's not because of the ping since its 3x higher.
There may have been one case where Irelia lived due to ping, but overall the latency didn't have an effect on the outcome.
M5 out 0-2 vs 24th seed. Dan finding a way to plug Lynsanity.
Audio is like a full half second in front of the video =/.Last edit: 2012-02-26 06:36:27 |
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| qualla Germany. February 26 2012 06:36. Posts 10 | Profile # |
On February 26 2012 06:32 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying
Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.
200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.
reaction time has to be included as well but you're probably right that it was a little less. Still way more than it would have taken me, that i am not any good in reacting fast, to react!
Still gg from monoesports!
Just a little sad for M5 and other european teams, that they are at a clear disadvantage as long as they don't travel to America for a qualifier!Last edit: 2012-02-26 06:38:58 |
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| pikaaarrr :3 United States. February 26 2012 06:36. Posts 587 | Profile Blog # |
| oh my god hatperson is so obnoxious....i like excitement but the yelling is really pissing me off |
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| Chiharu Harukaze February 26 2012 06:36. Posts 6455 | Profile # |
Now see? The Caster going mad at the end of the game? I like that enthusiasm. But I want him to be like that in the middle of the game in exciting periods.
That ace at bot lane? He sounded kinda unimpressed at the time. That's when I want to hear him going nuts. |
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| Redox Germany. February 26 2012 06:37. Posts 6052 | Profile # |
On February 26 2012 06:32 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying
Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.
200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.
Also they play from Russia, their ping should be even worse than for the Western Europeans.
0,3-0,4 sec sounds reasonable.
In any case this qualifier showed that cross server tournaments make no sense.
Because of this I also didnt like how the commentator was cheering so much just when the biggest flaw of their tournament was highlighted even more.Last edit: 2012-02-26 06:37:35 |
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| greatZERG Australia. February 26 2012 06:38. Posts 639 | Profile # |
On February 26 2012 06:36 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Now see? The Caster going mad at the end of the game? I like that enthusiasm. But I want him to be like that in the middle of the game in exciting periods.
That ace at bot lane? He sounded kinda unimpressed at the time. That's when I want to hear him going nuts.
The screaming was horrible, they either need to fix the mic levels or have him talk more rather than just make garbled noises into the mic. Enthusiasm is fine but I'd prefer commentary to bodily noises |
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| Steelavocado United States. February 26 2012 06:38. Posts 978 | Profile # |
GO mono yay!!!!!
My only concern with LoL is that each BO3 can take 3 hours =(Last edit: 2012-02-26 06:48:44 |
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| Woony Germany. February 26 2012 06:40. Posts 2717 | Profile Blog # |
On February 26 2012 06:37 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 06:32 Craton wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying
Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.
200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.
Also they play from Russia, their ping should be even worse than for the Western Europeans. 0,3-0,4 sec sounds reasonable. In any case this qualifier showed that cross server tournaments make no sense. Because of this I also didnt like how the commentator was cheering so much just when the biggest flaw of their tournament was highlighted even more.
IMO they either need to make it fair (ie. one game on US, one EU) or not allow EU teams at all. |
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| Chiharu Harukaze February 26 2012 06:40. Posts 6455 | Profile # |
On February 26 2012 06:38 greatZERG wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 06:36 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Now see? The Caster going mad at the end of the game? I like that enthusiasm. But I want him to be like that in the middle of the game in exciting periods.
That ace at bot lane? He sounded kinda unimpressed at the time. That's when I want to hear him going nuts.
The screaming was horrible, they either need to fix the mic levels or have him talk more rather than just make garbled noises into the mic. Enthusiasm is fine but I'd prefer commentary to bodily noises
Mmm. Yes. Screaming into the mic isn't great. But his heart was in the right place and LoL Commentators tend to be very dry which I think needs to be improved upon.
Also, did IPL kill their stream? I heard Hatperson mention there was another game coming...?Last edit: 2012-02-26 06:41:07 |
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| SimDawg United States. February 26 2012 06:41. Posts 1294 | Profile # |
On February 26 2012 06:36 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Now see? The Caster going mad at the end of the game? I like that enthusiasm. But I want him to be like that in the middle of the game in exciting periods.
That ace at bot lane? He sounded kinda unimpressed at the time. That's when I want to hear him going nuts.
You're the 2%
No doubt if you liked that garish hoarse screaming. Had to mute my volume it was so loud. |
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| Craton United States. February 26 2012 06:41. Posts 10177 | Profile Blog # |
On February 26 2012 06:40 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 06:37 Redox wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:32 Craton wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying
Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.
200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.
Also they play from Russia, their ping should be even worse than for the Western Europeans. 0,3-0,4 sec sounds reasonable. In any case this qualifier showed that cross server tournaments make no sense. Because of this I also didnt like how the commentator was cheering so much just when the biggest flaw of their tournament was highlighted even more.
IMO they either need to make it fair (ie. one game on US, one EU) or not allow EU teams at all.
The ping difference is generally less for eu to na than the reverse for whatever reason. It would also add a lot of logistical difficulty (read: delays between games), since there's a different client for each region (iirc) and you'd need to switch back and forth 2-3 times.Last edit: 2012-02-26 06:42:55 |
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| Chiharu Harukaze February 26 2012 06:42. Posts 6455 | Profile # |
On February 26 2012 06:41 SimDawg wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 06:36 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Now see? The Caster going mad at the end of the game? I like that enthusiasm. But I want him to be like that in the middle of the game in exciting periods.
That ace at bot lane? He sounded kinda unimpressed at the time. That's when I want to hear him going nuts.
You're the 2% No doubt if you liked that garish hoarse screaming. Had to mute my volume it was so loud.
Nono. The screaming wasn't great. The enthusiasm was good though. It's the enthusiasm and genuine engagement is what I believe casters need more of. |
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| Slow Motion United States. February 26 2012 06:42. Posts 4334 | Profile Blog # |
On February 26 2012 06:37 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 06:32 Craton wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying
Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.
200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.
Also they play from Russia, their ping should be even worse than for the Western Europeans. 0,3-0,4 sec sounds reasonable. In any case this qualifier showed that cross server tournaments make no sense. Because of this I also didnt like how the commentator was cheering so much just when the biggest flaw of their tournament was highlighted even more.
Well the alternative to the cross-server tourneys are no tourneys. They can't afford to always set up a live event for qualifiers and players can't afford to fly around so much or stay in a foreign country for so long. |
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| Redox Germany. February 26 2012 06:42. Posts 6052 | Profile # |
On February 26 2012 06:40 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 06:37 Redox wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:32 Craton wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying
Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.
200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.
Also they play from Russia, their ping should be even worse than for the Western Europeans. 0,3-0,4 sec sounds reasonable. In any case this qualifier showed that cross server tournaments make no sense. Because of this I also didnt like how the commentator was cheering so much just when the biggest flaw of their tournament was highlighted even more.
IMO they either need to make it fair (ie. one game on US, one EU) or not allow EU teams at all.
Well I am pretty sure aaa is happy that there were qualifiers at all, even at these conditions.
But only one European team at IPL4 will be sad, and can not be in the interest of the tournament. |
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| Craton United States. February 26 2012 06:43. Posts 10177 | Profile Blog # |
| I think if anything they could just alternate the qualifiers between NA and EU servers so that they're always consistent in a single series. It is an NA tournament, though. |
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| Redox Germany. February 26 2012 06:44. Posts 6052 | Profile # |
On February 26 2012 06:41 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 06:40 Woony wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:37 Redox wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:32 Craton wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:30 qualla wrote:
On February 26 2012 06:28 Slayer91 wrote:Probably not hard to juke people on 200+ ping, just saying
Exactly this... That was where you actually could see how bad ping issues must be for M5! They all kept running to where Irelia was before she dashed for like 0.3-0.4 seconds.
200 ms = .2 seconds. Normal latency is ~80ms (.08), so they have about .12 seconds more delay. If they're missing by .3-.4 seconds it has nothing to do with their ping.
Also they play from Russia, their ping should be even worse than for the Western Europeans. 0,3-0,4 sec sounds reasonable. In any case this qualifier showed that cross server tournaments make no sense. Because of this I also didnt like how the commentator was cheering so much just when the biggest flaw of their tournament was highlighted even more.
IMO they either need to make it fair (ie. one game on US, one EU) or not allow EU teams at all.
The ping difference is generally less for eu to na than the reverse for whatever reason. It would also add a lot of logistical difficulty (read: delays between games), since there's a different client for each region (iirc) and you'd need to switch back and forth 2-3 times.
All depends on where you are in NA. From the west coast (like clg.na) you have about 0.2 I think, from east coast (like tsm) it is pretty good.
Which is why tsm is playing on eu now so often. it doesnt really make a difference for them. |
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