| Arunu Netherlands. February 15 2012 20:35. Posts 73 | Profile # |
Hrm, was looking at this game on steam , haven't bought it yet.
Is it worth it ? been looking for a new game i can put some time in.
Anyone mind posting what the general content / " feel " is like ?
I've looked into the description yeah but would like to hear some more from a player perspective.
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| Skilledblob Germany. February 16 2012 01:04. Posts 2659 | Profile # |
On February 15 2012 20:35 Arunu wrote:
Hrm, was looking at this game on steam , haven't bought it yet.
Is it worth it ? been looking for a new game i can put some time in.
Anyone mind posting what the general content / " feel " is like ?
I've looked into the description yeah but would like to hear some more from a player perspective.
thanks in advance
hard to describe when you never played a game from Paradox before. Crusader Kings 2 puts a lot of emphasis on how you handle your vassals your success in the game pretty much depends on that. Or you can start as a puny duke and work your way up to the Emperor or get completely pwned because your vassals all hate you.
If you are looking for something action oriented this game will not be for you. But if you enjoy managing and building up empires it should be worth the money.Last edit: 2012-02-16 01:05:50 |
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| anomalopidae Slovenia. February 16 2012 01:53. Posts 217 | Profile # |
Playing as a count of Touars in France, having problems with inheritance law, since everytime rulers switch I lose almost every province I have, well at least lately I've been having issues with people assasinating my heirs so I'm lucky to have 1 left
But what do you think? should I change the law so that the most senior member of the dynasty inherits or just leave gravelkind and hope that my liege allows me to make the law so that eldest heir inherits all?
It's just said when I build the province and all the baronies/cities/bishopics to full, suddenly it gets inherited by computer  |
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| Masq Canada. February 16 2012 02:15. Posts 1506 | Profile Blog # |
this game is insanely complicated, im like totally lost trying to play it  |
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| Skilledblob Germany. February 16 2012 04:51. Posts 2659 | Profile # |
On February 16 2012 01:53 anomalopidae wrote:Playing as a count of Touars in France, having problems with inheritance law, since everytime rulers switch I lose almost every province I have, well at least lately I've been having issues with people assasinating my heirs so I'm lucky to have 1 left But what do you think? should I change the law so that the most senior member of the dynasty inherits or just leave gravelkind and hope that my liege allows me to make the law so that eldest heir inherits all? It's just said when I build the province and all the baronies/cities/bishopics to full, suddenly it gets inherited by computer
the best inheritance law for the start and for duchys is feudal vote.
you can always choose your heir yourself
you should have no problem with the votes because you are the only one allowed to vote
you get good bonuses to vassal relations
later when you managed to secure a Kingdom you should go with oldest son/daughter takes all
never ever form extra duchies before you are a king because you will lose the provinces or get big minuspoints in your vassal relations
On February 16 2012 02:15 Masq wrote:this game is insanely complicated, im like totally lost trying to play it
when you say what you got problems with I might actually be able to help you 
just got my first taste of the Mongol hordes that pop up around 1230. So there is me King of Bohemia, which I managed to seperate from the HRE in a long and costly war and then there are the mongols. I jsut think to myself man it wont be that hard I got 10000 personal levies after all without even having to mobilize my vassals. But nah the Mongols come and the first thing I see is a 20k stack almost only horse archers and heavy cavalery. My face goes O_O hitting pause as fast as I can going into the army tab and there they are my saviors the Crusader Orders. 14k new man instantly recruited and only costs you 150 piety and lots of gold each month but that wasnt a problem yet.
So I retreat with my levies and unite my army of 24k Crusaders and fearless bohemian soldiers to fight the mongol horde. And I make it a crushing victory thanks to a river crossing which weakened the mongols. 15k Mongols dead after the first battle and still have around 17k soldiers left and run after them to crush this army and take my bounty.
I cross the river and get to the army to finish them off when on the horizon I see 40k more Mongols storming towards me to help their men.
(O_O) -> (>_<) -> (-_-) -> (T_T)
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| Candadar February 16 2012 05:13. Posts 1791 | Profile Blog # |
For those who have no idea what this game is like. It's basically maintaining a dynasty.
My friend compares it to Game of Thrones
EDIT: Also, this is the first game I've ever played that Paradox made a good tutorial for. Try it.Last edit: 2012-02-16 05:46:36 |
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| Zuxo Sweden. February 16 2012 06:01. Posts 296 | Profile # |
On February 16 2012 05:13 Candadar wrote:For those who have no idea what this game is like. It's basically maintaining a dynasty. My friend compares it to Game of Thrones EDIT: Also, this is the first game I've ever played that Paradox made a good tutorial for. Try it.
Haha yeah.
I even heard that there was going to be a "Game of Thrones" mod from my friend (don't know for sure though)  . However if there is, lets just hope it is as awesome as the show ^^. |
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| Ramong Denmark. February 16 2012 07:31. Posts 943 | Profile # |
On February 16 2012 06:01 Zuxo wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 05:13 Candadar wrote:For those who have no idea what this game is like. It's basically maintaining a dynasty. My friend compares it to Game of Thrones EDIT: Also, this is the first game I've ever played that Paradox made a good tutorial for. Try it.
Haha yeah. I even heard that there was going to be a "Game of Thrones" mod from my friend (don't know for sure though) . However if there is, lets just hope it is as awesome as the show ^^.
Yes, there is a Game of Throne mod in the making, don't know how long before it will be released though.
My United kingdoms of Ireland and Wales, and soon Scotland
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I have 1 question, what does Fort Levels do ?
I can build a expansion for my castle that increase the fort levelLast edit: 2012-02-16 07:39:06 |
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| Pandepic Australia. February 16 2012 07:54. Posts 170 | Profile # |
Fort levels in EU3 increased the amount of garrison soldiers in a province, so maybe it does the same thing in this game.
I just installed it and this thread has gotten me really excited to play it, I was in love with EU3 all of this year. |
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| Candadar February 16 2012 08:26. Posts 1791 | Profile Blog # |
So I knocked up some teenager when my Duke was 71 years old. My Great Grand Children are older than my youngest child.
wat. |
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| LaNague Germany. February 16 2012 08:34. Posts 2983 | Profile # |
ok, you guys convinced me, there goes my last christmas present money :D
Its funny how most of my steam games are ctually from paradox...king arthus, EU, majesty, magicka.... |
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| Datz2Ez Canada. February 16 2012 09:17. Posts 73 | Profile # |
I am sooo much hype for this game :D Just finish downloading it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's make a crazy country hehe! |
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| Skilledblob Germany. February 16 2012 09:48. Posts 2659 | Profile # |
On February 16 2012 08:26 Candadar wrote:
So I knocked up some teenager when my Duke was 71 years old. My Great Grand Children are older than my youngest child.
wat.
well now the only thing you have to do is make your youngest child your heir and then you can enjoy the clusterfuck that will come when your king dies |
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| Euronyme Sweden. February 16 2012 10:07. Posts 3781 | Profile # |
I'm just about to buy this game.. Just one thing I have to ask first. From the thread it seems like a lot of things are.. just random BS.
"Oh crap, my king died and I lost fucking EVERYTHING".
"Oh crap, 50 000 mongoloids invaded me after I spent hours building up an empire"
Is this basically how it is? Just build shit up and pray that chance is on your side? |
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| beef42 Denmark. February 16 2012 10:33. Posts 525 | Profile # |
Yeah that's basically how it is. When the old king dies, his successor is decided by what law your realm currently has. If you example your law says your eldest son inherits, and your other landed sons aren't happy with this, they'll raise their levies and go to war on the new king. You can prevent this by making the vassals like you and your son, or by having enough personal holdings that you're too strong to take them all on in battle.
It doesn't necessarily take the death of a liege to have vassals go into revolt. Feudalism was, by today's standards, a decentralised clusterfuck full of egotistical assholes who won't give two shits for their liege lord if it suits them otherwise. These civil wars are a constant reminder that you are not the omnipotent overlord that you were in EU3. You either have to make it work with your subjects, or scare them into submission.
The Khanate invasions seem much like the Hordes in EU3. While they have giant stacks and threatening demeanors, they lose steam eventually. Specifically, they don't seem to reinforce at all. So by the time they reach the HRE they're as good as dead, and the Kaiserreich will mop up any stragglers. So if you're east of the HRE; be scared, find allies. If not you're fine.Last edit: 2012-02-16 10:34:46 |
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| Euronyme Sweden. February 16 2012 10:46. Posts 3781 | Profile # |
On February 16 2012 10:33 beef42 wrote:
Yeah that's basically how it is. When the old king dies, his successor is decided by what law your realm currently has. If you example your law says your eldest son inherits, and your other landed sons aren't happy with this, they'll raise their levies and go to war on the new king. You can prevent this by making the vassals like you and your son, or by having enough personal holdings that you're too strong to take them all on in battle.
It doesn't necessarily take the death of a liege to have vassals go into revolt. Feudalism was, by today's standards, a decentralised clusterfuck full of egotistical assholes who won't give two shits for their liege lord if it suits them otherwise. These civil wars are a constant reminder that you are not the omnipotent overlord that you were in EU3. You either have to make it work with your subjects, or scare them into submission.
The Khanate invasions seem much like the Hordes in EU3. While they have giant stacks and threatening demeanors, they lose steam eventually. Specifically, they don't seem to reinforce at all. So by the time they reach the HRE they're as good as dead, and the Kaiserreich will mop up any stragglers. So if you're east of the HRE; be scared, find allies. If not you're fine.
OK, so it's like playing EU3, but every time your king dies (or if you reach low stability for example) you get a game over screen, and you have to start from scratch?
Well I'll give it a shot.
By the way, for all of us lazy assholes who buy expensive games on steam instead of getting hard copies in stores that are cheaper because steam translates dollar to euro 1:1... I have a tip for you!
When paying online, use your banks generated digital visa card, to avoid giving away your actual card number.
This is a good advice in general when paying online. |
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| beef42 Denmark. February 16 2012 10:52. Posts 525 | Profile # |
Sure, if you're bad at securing your succession. If the heir to your title is a member of your dynasty, you take over as him when the old king dies. If your heir is usurped by someone else within your dynasty, (a brother or something) you'll still get to take over as the usurper, but you'll have a different royal family, which leads to all sorts of pain since everybody probably hates him for, you know, usurping a rightful claim and all.
If someone outside of your dynasty inherits (or takes with force) your last title, you get game over.Last edit: 2012-02-16 10:55:21 |
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| LaNague Germany. February 16 2012 11:15. Posts 2983 | Profile # |
didnt EU3 also have a random chance for succession wars?
oh well, brb, readin manual :D |
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| fush Canada. February 16 2012 11:44. Posts 560 | Profile Blog # |
| i'm glad raising levies isn't as brutal on your coffers as it was in the original... this game is awesome, because even if you blob up, it never really gets "easy" |
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| LaNague Germany. February 16 2012 11:56. Posts 2983 | Profile # |
| hm, the manual was rather short, i expected an epic reading like in EU3 :D |
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