I've been playing (and enjoying!) this game for a week or two now. The other day I started a new game as Galicia, assassinated my brothers, and became the king of Castille and Leon as well. A few decades and several wars with the moors go by, and I suddenly get the option of creating the kingdom of Portugal. So now I'm the king of four countries.
Is it actually possible to 'delete' kingdom titles to unite everything under one banner? Possible to form Spain similar to how it was done in Eu3? Just feels really strange holding so many titles, and my vassals aren't nearly as amiable as they have been in previous games when I only had one kingship. My sister in particular keeps plotting against me
Last edit: 2012-05-10 15:02:59
MaestroSC United States. May 10 2012 15:10. Posts 1541
On May 10 2012 15:02 Igakusei wrote: I've been playing (and enjoying!) this game for a week or two now. The other day I started a new game as Galicia, assassinated my brothers, and became the king of Castille and Leon as well. A few decades and several wars with the moors go by, and I suddenly get the option of creating the kingdom of Portugal. So now I'm the king of four countries.
Is it actually possible to 'delete' kingdom titles to unite everything under one banner? Possible to form Spain similar to how it was done in Eu3? Just feels really strange holding so many titles, and my vassals aren't nearly as amiable as they have been in previous games when I only had one kingship. My sister in particular keeps plotting against me
It is not possible to delete kingdoms when they are created. You have to remember that this game is not about the country but about the dynasty and your dynasty wants as many kingdoms as possible.
It is also not possible to form Spain, reason being that in the timespan of this game Spain did not exist. You can however download mods like CK2+ and they will add Spain and other countries for you to form
On May 10 2012 15:02 Igakusei wrote: I've been playing (and enjoying!) this game for a week or two now. The other day I started a new game as Galicia, assassinated my brothers, and became the king of Castille and Leon as well. A few decades and several wars with the moors go by, and I suddenly get the option of creating the kingdom of Portugal. So now I'm the king of four countries.
Is it actually possible to 'delete' kingdom titles to unite everything under one banner? Possible to form Spain similar to how it was done in Eu3? Just feels really strange holding so many titles, and my vassals aren't nearly as amiable as they have been in previous games when I only had one kingship. My sister in particular keeps plotting against me
It is not possible to delete kingdoms when they are created. You have to remember that this game is not about the country but about the dynasty and your dynasty wants as many kingdoms as possible.
It is also not possible to form Spain, reason being that in the timespan of this game Spain did not exist. You can however download mods like CK2+ and they will add Spain and other countries for you to form
Indeed. Imo the funniest way to play is to go for the broken kingdoms mod which removes all titles higher than duke, making kings and emperors mere dukes / counts of whatever areas they personally hold. For instance this makes the king of France count of Paris and Orleans. In addition to that you use whatever mod you like that adds more countries / empires. My favourite game so far was when I started out as count Capet, and formed Franconia (France + Italy) and personally held all the rich counties and was liege over the entire de jure empire. The thing is that it removes the big clashes between France and the HRE, and it makes playing a duke nicer as you don't get stricter crown laws all of a sudden that end the fun ^^
Edit. By removing titles I mean that they are gone from the starting date of the game. You can still form them if you have the requirements needed. You can also just go one day forward in time to get the normal map.
Last edit: 2012-05-25 23:58:51
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BearSandwich United States. May 28 2012 08:06. Posts 44
In case there are others like myself that were waiting for a sale to get the game, you can currently get it for $9.99 on Amazon, or $12.49 in the Plentiful Paradox Pack that has a few Paradox games that I also wanted to try for a very good price. I believe the deal is only going for a day as the conclusion to the 12 days of deals on Amazon.
The sale is actually going on for the entire week, so no pressure!
On May 28 2012 08:06 BearSandwich wrote: In case there are others like myself that were waiting for a sale to get the game, you can currently get it for $9.99 on Amazon, or $12.49 in the Plentiful Paradox Pack that has a few Paradox games that I also wanted to try for a very good price. I believe the deal is only going for a day as the conclusion to the 12 days of deals on Amazon.
Urgh, I really want to buy this game, but steam tells me it's 40 euro, and I can't seem to get amazon to work without a US adress. Is it limited to US residents only?
On May 30 2012 08:46 plated.rawr wrote: Urgh, I really want to buy this game, but steam tells me it's 40 euro, and I can't seem to get amazon to work without a US adress. Is it limited to US residents only?
I heard you can use a fake US address and still get the sale. Use the address of a Walmart on the US or something like that.
On May 30 2012 08:46 plated.rawr wrote: Urgh, I really want to buy this game, but steam tells me it's 40 euro, and I can't seem to get amazon to work without a US adress. Is it limited to US residents only?
I heard you can use a fake US address and still get the sale. Use the address of a Walmart on the US or something like that.
Thanks, I'll try that. Any other non-US people bought stuff over amazon this way, and can give some input on wether it works or not?
Edit: Seems to work fine. Game's great, but I'm dissapointed that the character creation kit isn't included in the game. I'm absolutely disgusted that it's pay-for-DLC.
Last edit: 2012-05-31 02:51:15
Savior broke my heart ;_;
BearSandwich United States. May 31 2012 02:51. Posts 44
On May 18 2012 00:13 floor exercise wrote: $15 for Combined Operations on Amazon digital store. Just picked it up but the DL is the slowest I've ever had from Amazon
Here's a link even
It's US only but you can just make your billing address in the US. I've bought about 6 games this way from my imaginary home in Delaware (no sales tax there apparently)
---Nevermind---
I made mine in Wyoming, no sales tax indeed.
Edit: added link for possibly more confirmation further in thread.
On May 28 2012 08:06 BearSandwich wrote: In case there are others like myself that were waiting for a sale to get the game, you can currently get it for $9.99 on Amazon, or $12.49 in the Plentiful Paradox Pack that has a few Paradox games that I also wanted to try for a very good price. I believe the deal is only going for a day as the conclusion to the 12 days of deals on Amazon.
The sale is actually going on for the entire week, so no pressure!
Edit: sale is going on all week.
Thank you for posting this up! I just caught wind of this game and it was looking extremely good, immediately picked it up off amazon so I can try it out when I wake up. Thats a pretty good savings.
Ohh and I was able to download it through steam even after buying it off amazon.
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castled United States. June 01 2012 07:28. Posts 287
I got this game in that Amazon sale (thanks to this thread). It's definitely very dense at first. I still don't know if I actually like it, but I appreciate that it's very different from almost everything else out there and am glad to have tried it.
I have a few questions. What's the best way to kill off your children or at least have a younger child be your heir? See, my first child is a complete dumbass with terrible stats and traits, and the second isn't that great either. My third male child is a freaking genius with the quick and diligent traits, so he would be a much better heir if possible.
Also, I don't fully understand how to wage war in this game. Intercepting enemy troops that are on the move is kind of weird, because you have to kind of predict where they are going otherwise by the time you reach where they are they have already moved on? Also, it seems my enemies are sometimes able to keep raising levies, but I am not able to raise more levies? Can you only raise more levies if your existing troops die? It kind of sucks to beat their large army and then start to siege them, when they suddenly get more troops in other counties and send them to start sieging your stuff...
Chocolate United States. June 01 2012 07:55. Posts 1473
What's the best way to kill off your children or at least have a younger child be your heir?
Couple different things you can do, although I can't think of one very good way.
First you can just try to assassinate them off one by one, but this is too expensive if you are not a powerful duke or a king that is not Basque. If you have a monthly income of like 20 then this might be pretty easy. As far as killing goes, if you can pick plots under the ambitions panel to kill your kids, I would use them. Another thing you can do as far as killing is giving your kid some land and just piss him off until he revolts (court jester, having too many desmesnes and duchies, giving him a duchy w/o the associated counties are good ways to do this). Then when he is imprisoned you can banish him. I would not recommend straight up imprisoning and then executing as it will piss of your vassals and you will get kinslayer, a trait that lowers diplomacy skill and gives a flat penalty in any diplomacy.
Intercepting enemy troops that are on the move is kind of weird, because you have to kind of predict where they are going otherwise by the time you reach where they are they have already moved on]
Best way to deal with this is to get as close as you can and hover your mouse over them to figure out how long it will take them to get somewhere. If you can get into their province before they leave, you can fight. Not all provinces have the same time to traverse between each one, so if they get stuck in an isolated one or one which can only quickly travel to one other (that you're in) you can get them easily. Troops move in and out of boats really quickly and boats travel quickly so if you don't care about the amphibious penalty use boats.
Also, it seems my enemies are sometimes able to keep raising levies, but I am not able to raise more levies? Can you only raise more levies if your existing troops die? It kind of sucks to beat their large army and then start to siege them, when they suddenly get more troops in other counties and send them to start sieging your stuff...
Hmmm... Maybe they are more technologically advanced than you. Click on a province in your demesne and click on the castle that you own and a list of upgrades pop up. Some increase money, some fort level, and some soldiers. I think you can check others' castles too.
Are you only using the military tab on the top to raise soldiers? I am pretty sure that you can click on individual provinces and vassals to raise their soldiers without disbanding the ones that you already have. Hope this helped
Onto my own question: How do you get a huge empire or kingdom while having the support of dukes? I try to keep my own duchies at 2 to prevent the penalty, but what do you do with ones that you conquer? Is there any way to get rid of them? Also, what's the best way to prevent 2 province de jure duchies from becoming real duchies? Dukes are becoming such a pain in my Aragon game...
On June 01 2012 07:55 Chocolate wrote: Onto my own question: How do you get a huge empire or kingdom while having the support of dukes? I try to keep my own duchies at 2 to prevent the penalty, but what do you do with ones that you conquer? Is there any way to get rid of them? Also, what's the best way to prevent 2 province de jure duchies from becoming real duchies? Dukes are becoming such a pain in my Aragon game...
Basically there are two options to get rid of a duchy. You can either grant them to your vassal/courtier or wait for one of your vassals to ask to be granted it. The first option makes all your vassals and holdings in the duchy be granted to the beneficiary, the latter does not (he gets just the duchy).
To prevent creation of a duchy, you must control over 50% of its de jure counties, which in the case of a 2-county duchy means you have to control both. You can also try to limit the prestige and/or money of the counts in the duchy to disallow them the creation, but I don't think it would work in the long run.
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Chocolate United States. June 01 2012 09:45. Posts 1473
On June 01 2012 07:55 Chocolate wrote: Onto my own question: How do you get a huge empire or kingdom while having the support of dukes? I try to keep my own duchies at 2 to prevent the penalty, but what do you do with ones that you conquer? Is there any way to get rid of them? Also, what's the best way to prevent 2 province de jure duchies from becoming real duchies? Dukes are becoming such a pain in my Aragon game...
Basically there are two options to get rid of a duchy. You can either grant them to your vassal/courtier or wait for one of your vassals to ask to be granted it. The first option makes all your vassals and holdings in the duchy be granted to the beneficiary, the latter does not (he gets just the duchy).
To prevent creation of a duchy, you must control over 50% of its de jure counties, which in the case of a 2-county duchy means you have to control both. You can also try to limit the prestige and/or money of the counts in the duchy to disallow them the creation, but I don't think it would work in the long run.
But is there no way to make the duchy disappear completely? Can you just absolve it?
I know for a fact that you only have to control half, because someone with only one county, Mallorca, created the duchy of Mallorca. I think I was just hoping for a way to prevent duchies from being created. I guess there is just no feasible way
GGTeMpLaR United States. June 01 2012 12:25. Posts 3849
What's the best way to kill off your children or at least have a younger child be your heir?
Couple different things you can do, although I can't think of one very good way.
First you can just try to assassinate them off one by one, but this is too expensive if you are not a powerful duke or a king that is not Basque. If you have a monthly income of like 20 then this might be pretty easy. As far as killing goes, if you can pick plots under the ambitions panel to kill your kids, I would use them. Another thing you can do as far as killing is giving your kid some land and just piss him off until he revolts (court jester, having too many desmesnes and duchies, giving him a duchy w/o the associated counties are good ways to do this). Then when he is imprisoned you can banish him. I would not recommend straight up imprisoning and then executing as it will piss of your vassals and you will get kinslayer, a trait that lowers diplomacy skill and gives a flat penalty in any diplomacy.
Intercepting enemy troops that are on the move is kind of weird, because you have to kind of predict where they are going otherwise by the time you reach where they are they have already moved on]
Best way to deal with this is to get as close as you can and hover your mouse over them to figure out how long it will take them to get somewhere. If you can get into their province before they leave, you can fight. Not all provinces have the same time to traverse between each one, so if they get stuck in an isolated one or one which can only quickly travel to one other (that you're in) you can get them easily. Troops move in and out of boats really quickly and boats travel quickly so if you don't care about the amphibious penalty use boats.
Also, it seems my enemies are sometimes able to keep raising levies, but I am not able to raise more levies? Can you only raise more levies if your existing troops die? It kind of sucks to beat their large army and then start to siege them, when they suddenly get more troops in other counties and send them to start sieging your stuff...
Hmmm... Maybe they are more technologically advanced than you. Click on a province in your demesne and click on the castle that you own and a list of upgrades pop up. Some increase money, some fort level, and some soldiers. I think you can check others' castles too.
Are you only using the military tab on the top to raise soldiers? I am pretty sure that you can click on individual provinces and vassals to raise their soldiers without disbanding the ones that you already have. Hope this helped
Onto my own question: How do you get a huge empire or kingdom while having the support of dukes? I try to keep my own duchies at 2 to prevent the penalty, but what do you do with ones that you conquer? Is there any way to get rid of them? Also, what's the best way to prevent 2 province de jure duchies from becoming real duchies? Dukes are becoming such a pain in my Aragon game...
Thanks for the tips! Yeah my income isn't large enough yet to hire a bunch of assassinations. However, I discovered the second son has a plot to kill my first son, so hopefully his plot succeeds and then I can imprison/execute him for what he did
And yeah it looks like my military issue was that eventually you can raise more soldiers and I wasn't finding that button. Also the AI was probably not raising everything at once so that could be what happened there.
Igakusei United States. June 02 2012 08:12. Posts 610
^ Can't you just make your older sons bishops? They'll have a claim of course, but if all they command is a few hundred troops it doesn't seem like they'll be able to do much in a succession war.
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Myles United States. April 28 2012 00:20. Posts 4074
