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 Anacletus United States. May 10 2012 07:22. Posts 670 | Profile Blog # |
So, this isn't really QQ as in I'm sad. It's more QQ as in wtf is wrong with some of the people that play DotA.....
I was informed by someone who was on my team in a game earlier that Dark Seer + Blood Seeker is the best combination ever because you can just surge whoever BS casts his ult on.
Did I just get trolled? What in the hell is going on?!? |
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| Dubzex United States. May 10 2012 07:26. Posts 3385 | Profile # |
On May 10 2012 07:22 Anacletus wrote:
So, this isn't really QQ as in I'm sad. It's more QQ as in wtf is wrong with some of the people that play DotA.....
I was informed by someone who was on my team in a game earlier that Dark Seer + Blood Seeker is the best combination ever because you can just surge whoever BS casts his ult on.
Did I just get trolled? What in the hell is going on?!?
Well if you surge someone right when they get ulted they run a lot further than they would normally. Makes sense but not really the best combo per se. |
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| paschl Germany. May 10 2012 08:25. Posts 500 | Profile # |
On May 10 2012 07:26 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 07:22 Anacletus wrote:
So, this isn't really QQ as in I'm sad. It's more QQ as in wtf is wrong with some of the people that play DotA.....
I was informed by someone who was on my team in a game earlier that Dark Seer + Blood Seeker is the best combination ever because you can just surge whoever BS casts his ult on.
Did I just get trolled? What in the hell is going on?!?
Well if you surge someone right when they get ulted they run a lot further than they would normally. Makes sense but not really the best combo per se.
and once they realise they ran too far you can just vacuum them back  |
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| Dubzex United States. May 10 2012 08:26. Posts 3385 | Profile # |
On May 10 2012 08:25 paschl wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 07:26 Dubzex wrote:
On May 10 2012 07:22 Anacletus wrote:
So, this isn't really QQ as in I'm sad. It's more QQ as in wtf is wrong with some of the people that play DotA.....
I was informed by someone who was on my team in a game earlier that Dark Seer + Blood Seeker is the best combination ever because you can just surge whoever BS casts his ult on.
Did I just get trolled? What in the hell is going on?!?
Well if you surge someone right when they get ulted they run a lot further than they would normally. Makes sense but not really the best combo per se.
and once they realise they ran too far you can just vacuum them back
Yes, which should also do more damage based on the distance traveled. Last edit: 2012-05-10 08:26:53 |
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| paschl Germany. May 10 2012 08:31. Posts 500 | Profile # |
but tbh the combo isnt that great. this will work at most once per enemy. as soon as they realise what youre doing they should be prepared.
i mean you might aswell say bs+pudge is the best combo because he can just hook the guy that got ulted.
yesterday i played pudge and hooked someone so that he hit an arrow my potm had shot mid hook.
i took full credit although i didnt even see the arrow ^^ |
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| Kuzmorgo Hungary. May 10 2012 10:11. Posts 725 | Profile # |
FUCK THIS SHITTY RETARDED MMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I get fucking noobs, slardar+sniper on one lane!?!?!?!?!?! against AM warlock, they lose completely, AM has vanguard+PT at 10 minutes!!!! and Slardar Sniper both have 20 lasthits at 20 minutes.. Game was fucking great tyvm
Btw everyone on my team has less than 50 wins, while enemy team has 180 win players..Last edit: 2012-05-10 10:14:08 |
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| DoNotDisturb Singapore. May 10 2012 12:56. Posts 5285 | Profile Blog # |
furion who goes midas > dagon > agha
am who keeps trying to go bfury despite getting outpushed like mad
furion and beastmaster tries to 2v5 at rosh
why |
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| LAN-f34r New Zealand. May 10 2012 13:00. Posts 1057 | Profile # |
BF is always the answer for AM.
Winning hardcore? 15 min BF, 20 min GG
Terrible start? Get BF, farm back into the game.
Pushing game? BF splash = better pushing power. |
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| DoNotDisturb Singapore. May 10 2012 13:04. Posts 5285 | Profile Blog # |
On May 10 2012 13:00 LAN-f34r wrote:
BF is always the answer for AM.
Winning hardcore? 15 min BF, 20 min GG
Terrible start? Get BF, farm back into the game.
Pushing game? BF splash = better pushing power.
am with bf but 1k hp does nothing against a lesh wr omni riki doom team, capable of raxing at <30minLast edit: 2012-05-10 13:04:58 |
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| SockArms United States. May 10 2012 14:03. Posts 569 | Profile Blog # |
ugh I have a group of friends and we've all been gaming together for years but they abandon all the time, refuse to play as a team and it's creating a division down the middle of us. We've all spent years playing games together but some of us play dota more seriously and don't want to play with them when they abandon, don't buy boots the whole game, never carry tp's and don't play as a team. And when we say we don't want to paly with them they get all offended and get mad  don't really want to split a long time group of friends over a game but even when I try to jsut go in to game with a just for fun mentality it really isn't fun having 2 of your teammates afk farm jungle all game then abandon when they start dying a lot late game.... /rantoffLast edit: 2012-05-10 14:04:02 |
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| LAN-f34r New Zealand. May 10 2012 14:21. Posts 1057 | Profile # |
On May 10 2012 13:04 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 13:00 LAN-f34r wrote:
BF is always the answer for AM.
Winning hardcore? 15 min BF, 20 min GG
Terrible start? Get BF, farm back into the game.
Pushing game? BF splash = better pushing power.
am with bf but 1k hp does nothing against a lesh wr omni riki doom team, capable of raxing at <30min
Well that isn't really that dangerous of a push team, put lesh omni in any team and you have similar pushing power
And vanguard+vlads or manta AM wouldn't do anything either. When you have BF, you can farm into a state where you can actually do something.
30 mins isn't an early rax O.o BF AM can become unstoppable by 30 mins if he gets a good lane. |
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| paschl Germany. May 10 2012 14:22. Posts 500 | Profile # |
| sounds like your friends are douchebags. |
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| Tobberoth Sweden. May 10 2012 16:19. Posts 4545 | Profile # |
On May 10 2012 10:11 Kuzmorgo wrote:
FUCK THIS SHITTY RETARDED MMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I get fucking noobs, slardar+sniper on one lane!?!?!?!?!?! against AM warlock, they lose completely, AM has vanguard+PT at 10 minutes!!!! and Slardar Sniper both have 20 lasthits at 20 minutes.. Game was fucking great tyvm
Btw everyone on my team has less than 50 wins, while enemy team has 180 win players..
People worry too much about amount of wins. I played with a guy from the TL chat, he had thirty wins... he went 41-3 as shadow fiend on mid.
Remember, there are people in Bronze in SC2 with 1000+ league wins and players in masters with a hundred. |
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| m3rciless United States. May 10 2012 16:25. Posts 1403 | Profile # |
On May 10 2012 14:21 LAN-f34r wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 13:04 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:00 LAN-f34r wrote:
BF is always the answer for AM.
Winning hardcore? 15 min BF, 20 min GG
Terrible start? Get BF, farm back into the game.
Pushing game? BF splash = better pushing power.
am with bf but 1k hp does nothing against a lesh wr omni riki doom team, capable of raxing at <30min
Well that isn't really that dangerous of a push team, put lesh omni in any team and you have similar pushing power And vanguard+vlads or manta AM wouldn't do anything either. When you have BF, you can farm into a state where you can actually do something. 30 mins isn't an early rax O.o BF AM can become unstoppable by 30 mins if he gets a good lane.
Yeah, what items would you rather AM get? Any pro would get bf in that situation. Link doesn't even bother to keep track fo gamestate when he plays am, just head straight for bf and poor mans before even checking what their heros are.
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| Canas Sweden. May 10 2012 16:45. Posts 1459 | Profile Blog # |
On May 10 2012 16:25 m3rciless wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 14:21 LAN-f34r wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:04 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:00 LAN-f34r wrote:
BF is always the answer for AM.
Winning hardcore? 15 min BF, 20 min GG
Terrible start? Get BF, farm back into the game.
Pushing game? BF splash = better pushing power.
am with bf but 1k hp does nothing against a lesh wr omni riki doom team, capable of raxing at <30min
Well that isn't really that dangerous of a push team, put lesh omni in any team and you have similar pushing power And vanguard+vlads or manta AM wouldn't do anything either. When you have BF, you can farm into a state where you can actually do something. 30 mins isn't an early rax O.o BF AM can become unstoppable by 30 mins if he gets a good lane.
Yeah, what items would you rather AM get? Any pro would get bf in that situation. Link doesn't even bother to keep track fo gamestate when he plays am, just head straight for bf and poor mans before even checking what their heros are.
Some teams prefer a vanguard and vlad on their AM, when XBOCT plays it for example, he almost always goes treads vanguard vlad into manta so he can help his team push and actually have a presence in teamfights, rather than relying on his team to not get smashed 4v5 while he farms.
And who says you have to rush a bfury, if you have an AM on your team and you're up vs a heavy push lineup that can kill AM easily, it's probably going to be a good move from the AM to go vanguard vlad instead of bfury to make sure that he doesn't get completely destroyed going into the midgame. But since these types of teams often don't have a real carry of their own, AM will still do fine as long as he lives, and once his team has stabilized a bit from the heavy pushing, he can get a bfury to not only start farming at the ridiculous rate that is bfury AM, but also to help push out lanes, especially if one of your lanes have been raxed. |
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| LAN-f34r New Zealand. May 10 2012 17:23. Posts 1057 | Profile # |
I feel like that if AM is going vanguard+vlads, your team lost in the drafting phase. Na'vi were doing that when AM was still popular and hence they didn't want to give it away, but push was becoming popular. Remember Defence finals though?
Quite simply, if your team can't 4v5 their team, you shouldn't have picked AM.
I mean, all a AM with van+vlads is in teamfights is a vlads aura and mana drain, and then a possibility of free gold if his team dies/runs and the enemy has some disables left. |
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| ChrisXIV Austria. May 10 2012 18:32. Posts 2088 | Profile Blog # |
Shadow Fiend skills raze first.
gg
(that, and he fed all game >_>) |
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| Firebolt145 United Kingdom. May 10 2012 18:37. Posts 12458 | Profile # |
On May 10 2012 18:32 ChrisXIV wrote:
Shadow Fiend skills raze first.
gg
(that, and he fed all game >_>)
Did you just play on the USW server and did he feed an Invoker solo mid? |
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| ChrisXIV Austria. May 10 2012 18:42. Posts 2088 | Profile Blog # |
On May 10 2012 18:37 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 18:32 ChrisXIV wrote:
Shadow Fiend skills raze first.
gg
(that, and he fed all game >_>)
Did you just play on the USW server and did he feed an Invoker solo mid?
Nah, was on EU and he fed Pudge and Naix. |
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| R-Tier Sweden. May 10 2012 19:51. Posts 10 | Profile # |
On May 10 2012 16:25 m3rciless wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 14:21 LAN-f34r wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:04 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:00 LAN-f34r wrote:
BF is always the answer for AM.
Winning hardcore? 15 min BF, 20 min GG
Terrible start? Get BF, farm back into the game.
Pushing game? BF splash = better pushing power.
am with bf but 1k hp does nothing against a lesh wr omni riki doom team, capable of raxing at <30min
Well that isn't really that dangerous of a push team, put lesh omni in any team and you have similar pushing power And vanguard+vlads or manta AM wouldn't do anything either. When you have BF, you can farm into a state where you can actually do something. 30 mins isn't an early rax O.o BF AM can become unstoppable by 30 mins if he gets a good lane.
Yeah, what items would you rather AM get? Any pro would get bf in that situation. Link doesn't even bother to keep track fo gamestate when he plays am, just head straight for bf and poor mans before even checking what their heros are.
Link is a low tier pro, I have no idea why you used him as an example. Most of the times, BF is the way to go. Some of the time, it's plain stupid & will lose you the game. |
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