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| rabidch Singapore. August 07 2012 04:57. Posts 8061 | Profile # |
| jinada applies to lothars damage. its 337.5 bonus damage when you hit with jinada. |
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 TheYango United States. August 07 2012 05:18. Posts 15749 | Profile # |
On August 07 2012 04:57 rabidch wrote:
jinada applies to lothars damage. its 337.5 bonus damage when you hit with jinada.
Yes, but doesn't Jinada already apply on Shadow Walk damage? You can't have Shadow Walk damage and Lothar's damage on the same attack because casting one breaks the other's effect. So the real gain of Lothar's is only about 70 damage, because if you weren't using Lothar's 150 bonus damage on that attack, you'd be using Shadow Walk's 120 bonus damage.Last edit: 2012-08-07 05:19:20 |
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 flamewheel HANG KANG. August 07 2012 05:24. Posts 21486 | Profile Blog # |
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| Erasme France. August 07 2012 05:41. Posts 4064 | Profile Blog # | |
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| flamewheel HANG KANG. August 07 2012 05:46. Posts 21486 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Erasme France. August 07 2012 06:06. Posts 4064 | Profile Blog # |
| nvm. I understood now. fu Last edit: 2012-08-07 06:11:09 |
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lagmaster  United States. August 07 2012 09:09. Posts 280 | Profile Blog # |
On August 07 2012 05:18 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 04:57 rabidch wrote:
jinada applies to lothars damage. its 337.5 bonus damage when you hit with jinada.
Yes, but doesn't Jinada already apply on Shadow Walk damage? You can't have Shadow Walk damage and Lothar's damage on the same attack because casting one breaks the other's effect. So the real gain of Lothar's is only about 70 damage, because if you weren't using Lothar's 150 bonus damage on that attack, you'd be using Shadow Walk's 120 bonus damage.
150 bonus damage from lothars x 2.25 crit from jinada = 337.5 bonus damage
600+ damage at a pretty low level. |
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| rabidch Singapore. August 07 2012 09:12. Posts 8061 | Profile # |
On August 07 2012 05:18 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 04:57 rabidch wrote:
jinada applies to lothars damage. its 337.5 bonus damage when you hit with jinada.
Yes, but doesn't Jinada already apply on Shadow Walk damage? You can't have Shadow Walk damage and Lothar's damage on the same attack because casting one breaks the other's effect. So the real gain of Lothar's is only about 70 damage, because if you weren't using Lothar's 150 bonus damage on that attack, you'd be using Shadow Walk's 120 bonus damage.
it doesnt apply to WW damage. the WW damage is applied on top of the critical. read the combat log |
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| Heh_ Singapore. August 07 2012 09:25. Posts 2245 | Profile Blog # |
| For so much spent on an item just to deal more damage on the initial strike, you might as well get a dagon. In fact, a dagon is cheaper and allows you to nuke from range~ |
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| Firebolt145 United Kingdom. August 07 2012 09:32. Posts 12324 | Profile # |
I can't tell if rabidch is trolling anymore, I'm so confused.
Wait I just remembered we were discussing shadowblade on BH. Fuck you guys. |
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| rabidch Singapore. August 07 2012 09:34. Posts 8061 | Profile # |
On August 07 2012 09:32 Firebolt145 wrote:
I can't tell if rabidch is trolling anymore, I'm so confused.
Wait I just remembered we were discussing shadowblade on BH. Fuck you guys.
i didnt say whether or not i actually like the item choice. im just stating what it does. |
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| Erasme France. August 07 2012 10:23. Posts 4064 | Profile Blog # |
On August 07 2012 09:25 Heh_ wrote:
For so much spent on an item just to deal more damage on the initial strike, you might as well get a dagon. In fact, a dagon is cheaper and allows you to nuke from range~
BH is all about jinada. I mean, you need the highest possible red numberLast edit: 2012-08-07 10:24:43 |
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| Heh_ Singapore. August 07 2012 10:26. Posts 2245 | Profile Blog # |
On August 07 2012 10:23 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 09:25 Heh_ wrote:
For so much spent on an item just to deal more damage on the initial strike, you might as well get a dagon. In fact, a dagon is cheaper and allows you to nuke from range~
BH is all about jinada. I mean, you need the highest possible red number
Dagon is a red lightning. Pretty close.
Aw yeah. 5 carries in my game. Silencer (me, random), FV, drow, tinker, DK.Last edit: 2012-08-07 10:29:21 |
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| Firebolt145 United Kingdom. August 07 2012 10:38. Posts 12324 | Profile # |
On August 07 2012 10:23 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 09:25 Heh_ wrote:
For so much spent on an item just to deal more damage on the initial strike, you might as well get a dagon. In fact, a dagon is cheaper and allows you to nuke from range~
BH is all about jinada. I mean, you need the highest possible red number
Well clearly I've been doing it wrong all this time. |
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| Erasme France. August 07 2012 10:59. Posts 4064 | Profile Blog # |
On August 07 2012 10:38 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 10:23 Erasme wrote:
On August 07 2012 09:25 Heh_ wrote:
For so much spent on an item just to deal more damage on the initial strike, you might as well get a dagon. In fact, a dagon is cheaper and allows you to nuke from range~
BH is all about jinada. I mean, you need the highest possible red number
Well clearly I've been doing it wrong all this time.
try phase boot into triple bf into mkb. jinada > ww > jinada > ww > jinada > track > jinada > max stats
That's a build for true men |
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| PrinceXizor United States. August 07 2012 11:03. Posts 4406 | Profile Blog # |
Damn sometimes i wish i was in the very high queue instead of normal. eventually will get there, but damn. so few games played.
bloodseeker beats my team 100% of the time. because everyone is like OMG i was ruptured time to run in circles and do nothing else. OMG i was silenced and i'm a squishy caster, better sit there and auto attack even though i just watched a teammate get ruptured and i know i can run. OMG we lose their bloodseeker is 2-0. "Bloodseeker is killed by princexizor, prince xizor is godlike". OMG They are all so fed "Enemy Carry is killed by princexizor's carry" "Enemy babysitter is killed by princexizor's carry, Double kill:.
*sigh* I work my butt off getting my carry off to a crazy good start, then go ganking and warding, get blamed for not ganking and warding enough after bloodseeker kills the same 2 people who keep running past river alone with everyone missing for the 10th time.
when BS is on my team, it appears my enemies have mastered the ability to just not...panic. just don't panic... heh.
I hate that character for that sole reason. my team loves to panic every game. even when we are winning horribly, if we lose 1 engagement it's gg. |
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| Dead9 United States. August 07 2012 12:27. Posts 2325 | Profile Blog # |
On August 07 2012 04:43 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 04:35 Erasme wrote:
jinada doesnt apply lothar's bonus ?
Shadow walk > Track > lothars > crit ?
Except you can already just do Shadow Walk->Track->Shadow Walk->Crit because the cooldown on Shadow Walk is shorter than the duration after the first rank. Lothar's crits only give about 70 more damage than Shadow Walk Crits--not worth the gold spent on a redundant active.
but think about how fast u run with lothars and track |
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| Firebolt145 United Kingdom. August 07 2012 12:53. Posts 12324 | Profile # |
| i guess best build is lothars + dagon + euls, big red numbers + red lightning + super fast yo |
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| RockIronrod Australia. August 07 2012 13:01. Posts 637 | Profile # |
| Don't forget to build travels and phase. |
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 Narw Poland. August 07 2012 13:33. Posts 379 | Profile # |
| Ok selection screen, i write middle please and proceed to lock QOP, then take it. Last pick on our team, Pudge "i mid i take bootle". At that point, i thought it's just a troll. Nope, it wasn't. He then proceed to 3/15 (with casual save opposite team hero hooks) during whole match. Most funny thing is, we still won that game. Last edit: 2012-08-07 13:37:13 |
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