| -Switch- Canada. February 15 2012 08:51. Posts 426 | Profile # |
| Some people are afraid of laddering for some reason. Cause they know its only them and the other person and can't handle the pressure. |
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| badDogma United States. February 15 2012 08:52. Posts 103 | Profile # |
| I would play a lot more if they gave us the ability to make an offrace account, or play in other regions, but that'll never happen. Thankfully valve/DotA 2 is giving me a lot of the "old" stuff that battlenet 2 left out. Last edit: 2012-02-15 09:20:49 |
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| Nozral Germany. February 15 2012 08:56. Posts 40 | Profile # |
On February 15 2012 07:16 Daray wrote:
People play to have fun and if they're not having fun they'll stop playing and apparently the majority has stopped playing 1v1 atleast.
I really doubt it's the majority that has stopped. The SC2 1vs1 ladder is alive and well IMO, sc2ranks has skewed stats. |
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| FoeHamr United States. February 15 2012 08:58. Posts 465 | Profile # |
| I stopped having fun with it. Winning didn't feel all that great, and losing pissed me off so I just moved on with my gaming life. Been playing some of the SC2 customs, HoN, LoL, Minecraft that kinda stuff. Still watch the occasional tournament but even that is getting stale. I think that I am going to try again with the new ladder season, but even the maps feel old. |
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| Epoxxyy February 15 2012 08:59. Posts 20 | Profile # |
Anyone else realize that only people who don't 1v1 anymore are posting? Thats because you all are using time you would use for ladder to talk on forums about how bad the game is. People who enjoy ladder don't comment on this because they are either A. Laddering or B. are tired of reading this stupid dribble. Anyone who says cheese and all-ins should just start practicing how to beat those if that truely is the only reason you're losing then you should, in theory, be able to havea 100% win rate. As zerg I like when people cheese because 90% of the time I will win. (Plat zerg so you don't need much skill to beat it). People are getting lazier and don't want to put time into improving or don't do it the correct way.
As for people saying your w/l not showing or match ups. I believe sc2ranks and sc2gears takes care of that. go get it and there are your stats. Bnet i will give to you sucks weiner but it's still not as bad as it could be. The chat does work if you put some effert into it which as i stated before....people are lazy. A lot of people go for games that gratify you instantly and they complain about having to put forth any effort what so ever.
Also I will say 1v1 should have a filter system. You can choose what race you want to play. This way you can get only that race and can be matched up correctly.
Like all the other forum posts mine will either be flamed or ignored because you all think that this is stupid because I'm saying that you're not perfect and that you're lazy...take a minute or two to really think about what you could do to make this game better besides your initial....OP OP ALL INS CHEESE AND BM. None of these are real reasons why people quit. There just scapegoats for the real reasons. And if not then you're probably that guy that BM's just saying =P
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| napkinlad United States. February 15 2012 09:18. Posts 12 | Profile # |
| i feel like every single option in the poll is why i stopped playing |
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| IPA United States. February 15 2012 09:19. Posts 2775 | Profile # |
This thread is emo beyond belief.
Enjoying Season 6! Sick map pool! Life is good. |
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| Kid-Fox Canada. February 15 2012 09:24. Posts 390 | Profile Blog # |
Terran here
I'm feeling lonely in my division (Diamond)...
There are as many terrans in the top 25 as there are random players. >_> Even worse, I'm the only one in Top 8.
Where did all the terrans go? It has the best mirror, nice active playstyle, cool units. I guess people want to pick the "skill" race/character when they play competitively (ew top tier. Skill-less scrubs).
Come on terrans, play some more! Where are all you guys anyways?
On a more general note, I find 1v1 ladder can be a grueling, miserable experience that is filled with angry, spiteful sore losers (and unmodest winners), BM in general, only punctuated scarcely by the nice guys who "gg wp" each game or chat you up without using it as a screen for an insane cheese. The only people who would enjoy such a cutthroat environment would be the "hardcores", which may be why so many people are turning "casual". That, and the social system of Bnet 2.0 is severely lacking. It took community protest to introduce chat channels for god's sake!
I was a scared, antisocial child when I was younger and I did not 'get' the benefits of Battle.net 1.0 with its REAL channels and ability to make visible game rooms. I would have much preferred channels, with moderators and customizable profiles (I guess I can somewhat understand no infinite account making because of LAN and more cash with people buying SC2 more than once), over annoying as hell SC2 channels and blind custom game system, making anything other than Nexus Wars/Marine Arena/4v4Monobattles/RPGs/DOTA next to impossible to set up without friends beforehand. |
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| Ubenn Canada. February 15 2012 09:29. Posts 113 | Profile # |
On February 15 2012 09:19 IPA wrote:
This thread is emo beyond belief.
Enjoying Season 6! Sick map pool! Life is good.
It seems we are in a rare club around these parts.
As a masters player and being in the smallest pool of players, I rarely face the same opponent back-to-back, I'd say that, that it's self is proof that ladder is alive and kicking.Last edit: 2012-02-15 09:32:50 |
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| DuckS United States. February 15 2012 09:33. Posts 804 | Profile # |
You should probably also consider that the poll is being conducted in an sc2 forum. People who quit the game probably don't visit this nearly as often as they used to.
For me, the game became a chore. No fun. The only fun was in the competition - but that can be argued for all things. After awhile I realized it was a waste of time and I was going no where with the game. I quit, play dota now whenever I have the time.Last edit: 2012-02-15 09:35:20 |
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| aderum Sweden. February 15 2012 09:38. Posts 1358 | Profile Blog # |
On February 15 2012 09:33 DuckS wrote:
You should probably also consider that the poll is being conducted in an sc2 forum. People who quit the game probably don't visit this nearly as often as they used to.
For me, the game became a chore. No fun. The only fun was in the competition - but that can be argued for all things. After awhile I realized it was a waste of time and I was going no where with the game. I quit, play dota now whenever I have the time.
I dont really play at all anymore, just like 1 or 2 games a week (im masters btw). The game kinda just got stale and boring for me, but i still watch a lot of stream and tourneys. For me a tleast i stil follow the scene as closely, im just not playing the game (right now). Im playing HoN with my buddies right now, having so much more fun. |
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| dartoo India. February 15 2012 09:39. Posts 2214 | Profile # |
| I really want to start playing again, but then I end up choosing brood war, thought I really do like sc2 a lot aswell. Hopefully this season I'll be more active in sc2 aswell. |
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| bustanut United States. February 15 2012 09:44. Posts 76 | Profile # |
On February 15 2012 09:38 aderum wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 09:33 DuckS wrote:
You should probably also consider that the poll is being conducted in an sc2 forum. People who quit the game probably don't visit this nearly as often as they used to.
For me, the game became a chore. No fun. The only fun was in the competition - but that can be argued for all things. After awhile I realized it was a waste of time and I was going no where with the game. I quit, play dota now whenever I have the time.
I dont really play at all anymore, just like 1 or 2 games a week (im masters btw). The game kinda just got stale and boring for me, but i still watch a lot of stream and tourneys. For me a tleast i stil follow the scene as closely, im just not playing the game (right now). Im playing HoN with my buddies right now, having so much more fun.
lol you have about another week before HoN starts to crash and burn. Raging when you're HoN'ing with friends (or anyone) is inevitable |
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| Lysenko United States. February 15 2012 09:47. Posts 2020 | Profile Blog # |
| There's something screwy about those numbers. I believe that something fundamental has changed about how sc2ranks tracks 1v1 teams, because it doesn't make any sense that numbers would be stable for a year and a half and then suddenly drop to 1/3 what they had been over eight weeks. |
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| Mrvoodoochild1 United States. February 15 2012 09:49. Posts 1434 | Profile # |
| I still play sc2 because it's free to play online and I don't have any money to spend on another game. The life of a college student. |
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| DamVii February 15 2012 09:51. Posts 62 | Profile # |
I haven' t reduced my 1v1 laddering, i even added some 2v2 in the last season. I used to to have ladder anxiety about 1v1, i still don' t feel like playing some days but i won' t think about it if i feel like playing a game or two.
I don' t think that ppl actually care about cheese and all ins that much. The core problem of this game, apart from the battlenet 2.0 ofc, the real thing that differentiates this game from BW and even W3 on this aspect is the ability to make new accounts for free. I mean we have all bought the game, we have all paid the 60eu or w/e, but cmon blizzard, if ppl could just make new accounts they would not care too much about their w/l ratio hence they would play more.
This would ofc raise the problem of smurfing but it was that way in BW, wasn' t it?
Most ppl don' t see a reduction in the number of players in their everyday laddering, i don' t usually meet the same person twice since i am just mid diamond. This ofc changes on high masters i think, but this is not a consequence of what we discuss here. I do not worry about my laddering tomorrow or in the next six months, but i care about the lifespan of sc2 as a game since it is something i enjoy playing in my free time.
Btw regarding the hole battlenet 2.0 and sc2gears, i don' t want to use 3rd party applications in order to get what the game should offer by default. It was the same with WoW and addons. A succesful addon was released and blizzard would implement it in the game after a couple patches (eg. that questhelper or what it' s called) and with battlenet it is the exact reverse. Its functionality is removed as it progresses? Wth is that?
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| Mvrio February 15 2012 09:52. Posts 600 | Profile # |
| i played 1v1 to match up where my skill in the world is, now that i generally know how good i am i don't play a lot, i have other games and 2's 3's and a funner dimension which is great. also customs aren't supposed to be taken seriously so I play those every once in a while |
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| XChoke Australia. February 15 2012 10:44. Posts 42 | Profile # |
I love laddering!
I use to hate it and got anxious with every game and every loss. I stopped treating "Laddering" as a competition and just an easy way to get into a game that I enjoy. There is no reason not to talk to people in game and say things like"wow I didn't see that warp prism attack coming!" after you gg. It's a game that if you want to enjoy it requires you let go of your ego, since 50% of the games you play will most likely result in a loss.
I've been back laddering everyday for the last 3 months and I enjoy SC2 now more than ever. I have two rules: if I want to play another game (damn you Skyrim!) that is fine but I have to do 1 ladder game first. Everytime I play I chose two things to work on and win or lose I make sure I'm doing those things - spreading creep like crazy or perhaps playing with some unit just because I want to! |
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| Sub40APM February 15 2012 10:45. Posts 2078 | Profile # |
| I like playing ladder but the last month or so my games have turned into mirror craft, with no matter what race I pick I go through 4-5 mirror games and one off race. Even when I am random! I find it really frustrating. |
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| homeless_guy United States. February 15 2012 10:48. Posts 321 | Profile # |
| I work full time and I bring work home, especially on the weekends. I love SC2 and BW but the reality is, as is true with any skill-based game (video game or otherwise), the less you play the lower your skill level is. I have time to lurk & post on TL, and occasionally I can watch VODs or tournaments, but I don't have 2+ hours a day to keep my skill level at anything like respectable or near my knowledge of the metagame. My hands are stiff, I can't macro let alone micro, I forget BO's, etc. I could play 2v2 or 3v3, which is much more random and luck-based, and therefore lower-stakes, but that is a double-edged sword: losing smarts less but winning is much less fulfilling. I went 2 base stim MMM. YAY! |
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