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Nobody Plays 1v1 Ladder Anymore? - Page 8

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 shizna   United Kingdom. February 14 2012 00:52. Posts 803
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a big part of it is that we've been led to believe that HOTs is coming out 'soon'.

therefore ppl are thinking "well wtf is the point playing now... might as well just watch some vods and wait for it".

i know that's what i'm thinking at least.

i'm also kind of thinking that zerg is too easy compared to terran at my level... and something like 9 out of 10 matches seem to be against zerg. that's why i play 4-5 1v1 games and then decide to call it quits for a week.
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 Soap   Brazil. February 14 2012 00:52. Posts 1138
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It is very stressful to play random matchup and random map, having to be proficient in at least 3 matchups and 5 maps without being able to focus practice, unless you happen to know someone around your level who wants the same and is available at the same times.

Compare that with BW/ICCup ladder where you play whatever you please, and still it's a much better representation of skill.
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 SingleMalt   France. February 14 2012 00:56. Posts 3
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On February 13 2012 23:07 hahaimhenry wrote:
because people have school!


Could be a could explanation ! Season 5 began just after winter break.
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 SugarHammer   Canada. February 14 2012 00:56. Posts 14
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I used to have ladder fear until I realized it was just a game and ladder doesn't really matter, it's just for fun. You see the pro's ladder and they'll try out something new, if it doesn't work and they lose they don't care they just exit the game and started a new one. That's the mentality I applied and laddered more after that.

But I do agree the ladder system isn't optimal right now, but not much you can do about that so just try to enjoy it.

As for the cheese, they are viable strategies and if you lose to one, watch the replay and learn to counter it, that's the reason a lot of pros don't cheese because they know there opponent can easily counter it. Just got to be more aware (scout lots) and have a solid defense!

That's all my wisdom, my thoughts on ladder just try to enjoy it and if you lose no big deal!
Guns & Butter
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 Molondo   Canada. February 14 2012 00:56. Posts 17
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5-10 zvzs in a row makes me sick. I usually stop for a week if that happens. They have to fix that crap, put a cap or something. Id rather wait an extra 30 seconds than to face another zvzs.
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  LeibSaiLeib   February 14 2012 00:56. Posts 173Profile # 

On February 14 2012 00:50 Mobius_1 wrote:

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Clearly, he doesn't think it works perfectly. It's great that you think it's an excellent system but a lot of people do not think that, whether it's interface, or matchmaking, or social stuff. Plus the existence of SC2Gears/Facebook does not excuse BNet 2.0 from not living up to expectations. It's like selling a substandard/incomplete product.

I personally don't mind BNet 2.0 that much but you have to be receptive of other viewpoints. In the end it's a game and it's about having fun (job for a select few), and Blizzard isn't doing as good a job as they could be if some/many players are losing enjoyment because of flaws in their product.



I guess they shoudl add lvls, and new weapons for marines as you lvl up. headshots give extra points, etc, alot of numbers as you lvl, so people get addicted in it (like LoL HoN Dota2 BF3 MW3, like every game with lvling systems, point earning systems). Then it will be perfect nyahahahaaa.

Thou on your point, i sayd Ladder, not bnet 2.0, bnet 2.0 at first was worse then BW battlenet, wich is an amazing achivement. I honestly dont understand why people want bnet to do everything. ALlmost sounds liek they shoudl make Blizzard explorer for internet browsing etc etc. Just dont get it, you can chat, form custom games etc etc.
 
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 fox77   Canada. February 14 2012 00:57. Posts 95
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LoL everyone is already there.
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 softan   Sweden. February 14 2012 00:59. Posts 113
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On February 14 2012 00:56 LeibSaiLeib wrote:

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I guess they shoudl add lvls, and new weapons for marines as you lvl up. headshots give extra points, etc, alot of numbers as you lvl, so people get addicted in it (like LoL HoN Dota2 BF3 MW3, like every game with lvling systems, point earning systems). Then it will be perfect nyahahahaaa.

Thou on your point, i sayd Ladder, not bnet 2.0, bnet 2.0 at first was worse then BW battlenet, wich is an amazing achivement. I honestly dont understand why people want bnet to do everything. ALlmost sounds liek they shoudl make Blizzard explorer for internet browsing etc etc. Just dont get it, you can chat, form custom games etc etc.


I think most people just want a bnet that is as good as their previous version of bnet (for wc3) was. But wc3 actually have alot of great funcionality that isn't even present in 2.0.
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 Inertia_EU   United Kingdom. February 14 2012 01:00. Posts 505
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99% of the social experience of SC2 isnt in ladder/b.net because its here on TL
 
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 FascistMuffin   February 14 2012 01:01. Posts 9
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I don't latter as much because when in season one I was a bronze noob who had not played SC before, so I had a lot of room to improve, and progress was pretty visible when I started getting builds and general game knowledge. Now that I'm higher league, improvement is much harder to come across and I don't have that "OMG I'm on a 15 game win streak must keep playing!" motivation anymore. Also Gears of War 3 is pretty damn fun.
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 softan   Sweden. February 14 2012 01:01. Posts 113
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On February 14 2012 01:00 Inertia_EU wrote:
99% of the social experience of SC2 isnt in ladder/b.net because its here on TL


But back when I played starcraft, then broodwar then wc3 it wasn't for me. Then it was in the actual bnet interface. But now it's here on tl. That says alot about the state of battlenet 2.0 I think.
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  Wombat_NI   Northern Ireland. February 14 2012 01:03. Posts 5145Profile # 

On February 14 2012 01:01 softan wrote:

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But back when I played starcraft, then broodwar then wc3 it wasn't for me. Then it was in the actual bnet interface. But now it's here on tl. That says alot about the state of battlenet 2.0 I think.

Exactly, I mean people are just dismissing the 'lonely experience' of ladder as whining, I had great fun grinding in WC3, returning to chat channels when searching games, chatting and stuff. Just doesn't seem comparable in SC2
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - McBengt Also anyone with any questions or desires to help the Irish scene, PM me!
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 TheEggMan   Argentina. February 14 2012 01:03. Posts 9
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A lot of people enjoy watching more than playing because of ladder fear. Unranked ladder would solve many of SC2 problems.

Also, sc2ranks only records 1v1 ladder and most players from masters up play a lot of custom games. For example: NA mid/top masters is infested with zerg players atm so I many decide to stop playing ladder and get a practice partner to either practice their zvz or the other two matchups they don´t get. Also take into account school and this is a shorter season.
Live for the swarm
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  pallad   Poland. February 14 2012 01:05. Posts 1713Profile # 

On February 13 2012 23:10 mrafaeldie12 wrote:
I guess it is because the lack of community the game has.


LOL what ? stop trolling around.
crowd at tournaments are sick , bracraft's , show's aboth SC2 etc etc
And you are now at community site , you dont know that ?
Show me other site , bigger then TL for any other game then BW/SC2 .. im waiting.

And on topic i think ppl now prefere to play more custom games to practice , there are manu much onlnie mid/low skill tournaments that ppl play. Imo custom games are stil lbetter to take your skill up , then ladder.
Now days ladder is full of chesses and allin's . I play much less macro games now , then 2-3 moths ago dunno why..
80% games that i play my opponent make 2 base allin , or some one base chesse..
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 SKYFISH_   Bulgaria. February 14 2012 01:06. Posts 612
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i personally dont play 1v1 anymore for the following short list of reasons:
-map pool is awful
-i dont like the patches
-i have to play a minimum of 5 ladder games per day to stay in shape, otherwise i get smashed by kids in school who obviously have more time than me to practice = no fun

In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
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 ProxyKnoxy   United Kingdom. February 14 2012 01:07. Posts 2543
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I don't feel satisfied when I win
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
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 Shockk   Germany. February 14 2012 01:07. Posts 2267
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On February 14 2012 01:05 pallad wrote:

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LOL what ? stop trolling around.
crowd at tournaments are sick , bracraft's , show's aboth SC2 etc etc
And you are now at community site , you dont know that ?
Show me other site , bigger then TL for any other game then BW/SC2 .. im waiting.


Feel free to take a look at this 55-page (!) thread where we're discussing the lack of community features in SC2, because that's what he's talking about.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=308482
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 GWBuffalo   United States. February 14 2012 01:07. Posts 230
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On February 14 2012 00:00 HypernovA wrote:
Not interested in playing a game that vilifies me for playing Terran.


When was the last time you played? Because we are in serious need of more Terran players. I would hope that the old Idra influenced anti-Terran bm is far less now than it used to be.
 
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 softan   Sweden. February 14 2012 01:08. Posts 113
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On February 14 2012 01:07 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
I don't feel satisfied when I win


Really?
In no other game does winning give me such satisfaction as in the starcraft 2. On the other hand, a few losses in a row and it feels like I got mentally kicked in my balls.
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 imPermanenCe   Netherlands. February 14 2012 01:09. Posts 572
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They should introdcuce a not-so-grandmaster league, so all the master players that aren't top notch (can't read grandmaster) have another reason to ladder :D
Micro at its best is like an elegant dance between two people trying to achieve a similar end.
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