| GreYMisT United States. February 17 2012 09:01. Posts 4667 | Profile Blog # |
| Ladies and Gentlemen, It appears GMarshal is busy fighting the demons within himself. Therefore I have to get everything set up and ready myself. The game will start hopefully very soon! |
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| GreYMisT United States. February 17 2012 09:02. Posts 4667 | Profile Blog # |
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I really just blew my 2k post on you guys...............................
You guys better play your goddamned best. |
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| gumshoe Canada. February 17 2012 09:12. Posts 784 | Profile Blog # |
| why didn't you recruit an avatar to relay your post and what kind of demons is marshal specifically dealing with? minotaurs? |
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| Steveling Greece. February 17 2012 09:17. Posts 3096 | Profile Blog # | |
| | The seven sins of society.. riches without labour, satisfaction without emotion, trade without ethos, knowledge without character, science without humanism, worship without sacrifice, politics without morals. |
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| Blazinghand United States. February 17 2012 09:22. Posts 12100 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Jitsu United States. February 17 2012 09:23. Posts 900 | Profile Blog # |
Good luck, have fun newbies!  |
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| EchelonTee United States. February 17 2012 09:27. Posts 3403 | Profile # |
On February 17 2012 09:02 GreYMisT wrote:
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I really just blew my 2k post on you guys...............................
You guys better play your goddamned best.
bad time for my metagame shift to a synthesis of Chezinu+Blazinghand, huh
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| GreYMisT United States. February 17 2012 09:30. Posts 4667 | Profile Blog # |
| Just an update, I have all role PM's written, I am now writing the daypost. expect the game to start within 15 or so minutes depending on how fast I can churn this out. |
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| Probulous Australia. February 17 2012 09:38. Posts 3784 | Profile Blog # |
On February 17 2012 09:27 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 09:02 GreYMisT wrote:
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I really just blew my 2k post on you guys...............................
You guys better play your goddamned best.
bad time for my metagame shift to a synthesis of Chezinu+Blazinghand, huh <3
I'm onto you. 
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| Blazinghand United States. February 17 2012 09:39. Posts 12100 | Profile Blog # |
On February 17 2012 09:27 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 09:02 GreYMisT wrote:
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I really just blew my 2k post on you guys...............................
You guys better play your goddamned best.
bad time for my metagame shift to a synthesis of Chezinu+Blazinghand, huh <3
Nobody will ever understand him |
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| Jitsu United States. February 17 2012 09:39. Posts 900 | Profile Blog # |
| Hey GreY, are you going to start a QT for Obs? |
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| GreYMisT United States. February 17 2012 09:48. Posts 4667 | Profile Blog # |
Day 1![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/X40qi.jpg)
"Look at her running Qatol, Isn't she Beautiful?" GMarshal remarked as he stood on the balcony, staring over the main casino floor. "It took years for The Liquibet to get to where it is now, but we finally are major players in the politics of New Vegas."
Qatol was just about to respond, when he noticed a dark figure striding straight through the casino floor, directly towards the stairs. "Sir, it looks like we have company. Have you see him before?"
GMarshal started to reply, when he noticed the figure reach deep into his pockets and pulled out a strange looking device with what appeared to be a button on it...
He had just recognized the danger when the figure mashed down the button, causing the cap-bomb to launch its contents all over the casino. GMarshal found himself uninjured, but only because his assistant Qatol took most of the blast. He hurried over to the figure, who he now recognized.
"You! you are the one they call Mr. Wiggles! I thought the Gangs of the Wasteland didn't come this far into New Vegas."
"You assume too much," Mr.Wiggles replied, "You are not the only power that wants control over New Vegas..."
With that GMarshal stepped away from the now dead body, and addressed his entire Casino.
"Its clear to me that I have been to complacient in security. Indeed I believe we may have been infultrated by members of these so called gangs. They want to play this game? Fine. No one leaves until I have found all of those responsible and made them pay. You have until 48 hours have passed to find one among you who is responsible, or I shall be forced to take further measures."
With that, the hushed crowd glaced back and forth at one another, as they began to hear a clock ticking in the background...
Qatol Was ironicly murdered with money in a casino!
Mr. Wiggles Is always scum and never not scum!
The Day has begun! with 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch. The day ends in 48 hours on February 18 18:00 CST[local]Last edit: 2012-02-17 09:49:52 |
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| GreYMisT United States. February 17 2012 09:49. Posts 4667 | Profile Blog # |
Role PMs have been sent out. please let me know if you did not receive one.
PM me for a link to the observer QTLast edit: 2012-02-17 09:49:39 |
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| DoYouHas United States. February 17 2012 10:06. Posts 682 | Profile # |
Alright, let's get this going. We need an active town this game. I'm expecting a lot from you sl0osh. To start things off, I would appreciate it if everyone would mention whether or not they have played before in their first post. And if you have, please mention or link the game(s) that you played in.
This is my second game. I played in Newbie Mini Mafia III. I also have been participating in the observer quicktopic for Normal Mini Mafia I if you want to look at that after that game ends. |
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| MidnightGladius China. February 17 2012 10:09. Posts 848 | Profile Blog # |
It is such a pleasure to start another game: let the paranoia flow, and the productivity falter!
Notes on the setup: Now that there are 15 starting players, the mafia:innocent ratio is rather uncommon, at 4:11, favoring the mafia, compared to 3 in Normal Mini Mafia I, 3 in Newbie Mini Mafia II, and 3 in Newbie Mini Mafia I. On the last occasion that the town faced unfavorable odds, Newbie Mini Mafia III, the lack of mafia power roles and relative abundance of innocent power roles helped to balance the setup, and I think that it will be the same here. Considering that the town gets a minimum of one extra mislynch compared to the standard setup, I think that the extra information will be especially helpful. Easy enough, right? No need for lurking, bashing, or spamming; I'm hoping for a great game.
Trust in Bayes! |
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| MidnightGladius China. February 17 2012 10:10. Posts 848 | Profile Blog # |
EBWOP:
Silly coding ._.
3 => 3 : 9
In response to DoYouHas, this is my second real game here. The earlier ones were way too large and chaotic to be of much use. |
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| DoYouHas United States. February 17 2012 10:29. Posts 682 | Profile # |
On February 17 2012 10:09 MidnightGladius wrote:
On the last occasion that the town faced unfavorable odds, Newbie Mini Mafia III, the lack of mafia power roles and relative abundance of innocent power roles helped to balance the setup, and I think that it will be the same here.
Newbie Mini Mafia III was 4/9, that is very different from 4/11. I see the normal mafia to town ratio as being 1/4. As such I think we are pretty close and cannot speculate as to the number of roles or what roles are in the game. |
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| jaj22 United Kingdom. February 17 2012 10:35. Posts 1373 | Profile # |
Oh hey, an early start. I guess that means I'll be here for the night/day posts for a change.
This is the first full game I've played. I replaced into Election Mafia as scum:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=52329
And TL Mafia L as vanilla town:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=52329
Feel free to check out my meta.
I don't know a good way of starting discussion on day 1, so here's some obligatory lurker-lynch stuff. I hate lurkers. Don't be a lurker. Other than the point that lurking is thoroughly anti-town, why bother playing the game if you're not going to post?
Do I want to lynch lurkers on day 1? At a gut level, absolutely. It's not necessarily optimal though. If we have someone who's both active and scummy, lynching them is a better choice. However, that's much more likely if we don't let people lurk, so it's important to maintain a real threat.
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| MidnightGladius China. February 17 2012 10:43. Posts 848 | Profile Blog # |
On February 17 2012 10:29 DoYouHas wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 10:09 MidnightGladius wrote:
On the last occasion that the town faced unfavorable odds, Newbie Mini Mafia III, the lack of mafia power roles and relative abundance of innocent power roles helped to balance the setup, and I think that it will be the same here.
Newbie Mini Mafia III was 4/9, that is very different from 4/11. I see the normal mafia to town ratio as being 1/4. As such I think we are pretty close and cannot speculate as to the number of roles or what roles are in the game.
The difference is not trivial. With 11 players, in the worst-case scenario where we mislynch every day, we lose one full day/night cycle (as the remaining 3 players are simply killed in the endgame). Even if we don't fail to that extent, there's still more significantly more pressure on us at every stage.
Additionally, consider that the setup was originally balanced at 4:12, with whatever role distribution was present at the time. After the population odds were changed to 4:11, it makes sense to also alter the role distribution to re-balance it.
Also, as my last post did not make it clear, my previous game here was Newbie Mini Mafia III.
On February 17 2012 10:35 jaj22 wrote:Oh hey, an early start. I guess that means I'll be here for the night/day posts for a change. This is the first full game I've played. I replaced into Election Mafia as scum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=52329And TL Mafia L as vanilla town: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=52329Feel free to check out my meta. I don't know a good way of starting discussion on day 1, so here's some obligatory lurker-lynch stuff. I hate lurkers. Don't be a lurker. Other than the point that lurking is thoroughly anti-town, why bother playing the game if you're not going to post? Do I want to lynch lurkers on day 1? At a gut level, absolutely. It's not necessarily optimal though. If we have someone who's both active and scummy, lynching them is a better choice. However, that's much more likely if we don't let people lurk, so it's important to maintain a real threat.
I've been told by veterans here that it's possible to use behavioral analysis to lynch mafia on the first day, but I honestly am not sure how to go about it. Hopefully, activity will be high enough to render this issue moot, but I have no regrets with lynching lurkers. |
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| MidnightGladius China. February 17 2012 10:46. Posts 848 | Profile Blog # |
EBWOP:
The difference between 4:11 and 4:12 is not trivial. To a greater extent, the difference between 4 : 9 and 4:11 is. |
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