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Thanks. Happy Gaming. | BlackMagister United States. February 18 2012 17:52. Posts 3778 | Profile # |
| I saw Salce destroy Rincent by stacking Doran's shields, pink wards and getting other defensive stuff as Rumble even after he got first blooded by a jungle gank. The only thing is if a Twitch is getting destroyed top lane they can still gank other lanes. |
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| Gaslo Finland. February 18 2012 19:23. Posts 425 | Profile # |
On February 18 2012 11:36 krews wrote: Latest PBE Patch Notes have Shen nerfs, that didn't take long.
Shen
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Base armor reduced to 19 from 23
Vorpal Blade health scaling lowered to 1.5% from 2%
Feint
Energy cost increased to 50 from 40 at all levels
Base shield value reduced to 70/115/160/205/250 from 70/120/170/220/270
So, where is that guy whos 1500 elo friends told us Shen would not be that good after the patch, lol. 
I don't mind those nerfs, apart from the energy cost increase. I am so bad that i already have problems managing my energy in teamfights, and i think that after that patch i will be OOE all the time.  |
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| Shiv. February 18 2012 19:29. Posts 1903 | Profile # |
On February 18 2012 19:23 Gaslo wrote: Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 11:36 krews wrote: Latest PBE Patch Notes have Shen nerfs, that didn't take long.
Shen
General
Base armor reduced to 19 from 23
Vorpal Blade health scaling lowered to 1.5% from 2%
Feint
Energy cost increased to 50 from 40 at all levels
Base shield value reduced to 70/115/160/205/250 from 70/120/170/220/270
So, where is that guy whos 1500 elo friends told us Shen would not be that good after the patch, lol.  I don't mind those nerfs, apart from the energy cost increase. I am so bad that i already have problems managing my energy in teamfights, and i think that after that patch i will be OOE all the time. 
He already admitted he was wrong.
Are there any champions that you guys would LOVE to play but just can't get the hang of? For me, it's Riven and Rumble. Both look insanely fun when played, but I just can't make them work. I mean, yeah, I can farm with Riven and 2shot their carries come late game, but I hate not being able to abuse her strong laning phase. Same with Rumble. I don't know what it is, but there's something I don't get about their respective laning phases. |
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| Zdrastochye United States. February 18 2012 19:54. Posts 1785 | Profile Blog # |
So, where is that guy whos 1500 elo friends told us Shen would not be that good after the patch, lol. 
He's right here:
On February 17 2012 15:34 Cloud9157 wrote: LOL. Apparently my friends are playing against LoCicero in normals right now.
Turn on your stream you loser. =\
The same friends who don't think Shen is strong. Lol.Last edit: 2012-02-18 19:55:04 |
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| LaNague Germany. February 18 2012 20:28. Posts 3055 | Profile # |
On February 18 2012 16:15 WirelessWaffle wrote: Is there some master trick to last hitting under turret? or is the support supposed to know how to help?
I have issues when the other ad shoves my lane and i'm playing vayne/trist for example. Then my support either tries to auto everything before the turret looks at it or they stand by and do nothing.
if you play enough games you will know how many tower hits and autoattacks it takes to kill a creep just by looking at its bar. but in my experience, most solo queue people will mess things up if they are in your lane and "help" you. |
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| mr_tolkien France. February 18 2012 20:57. Posts 3485 | Profile Blog # |
On February 18 2012 19:29 Shiv. wrote: Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 19:23 Gaslo wrote: On February 18 2012 11:36 krews wrote: Latest PBE Patch Notes have Shen nerfs, that didn't take long.
Shen
General
Base armor reduced to 19 from 23
Vorpal Blade health scaling lowered to 1.5% from 2%
Feint
Energy cost increased to 50 from 40 at all levels
Base shield value reduced to 70/115/160/205/250 from 70/120/170/220/270
So, where is that guy whos 1500 elo friends told us Shen would not be that good after the patch, lol.  I don't mind those nerfs, apart from the energy cost increase. I am so bad that i already have problems managing my energy in teamfights, and i think that after that patch i will be OOE all the time. 
He already admitted he was wrong. Are there any champions that you guys would LOVE to play but just can't get the hang of? For me, it's Riven and Rumble. Both look insanely fun when played, but I just can't make them work. I mean, yeah, I can farm with Riven and 2shot their carries come late game, but I hate not being able to abuse her strong laning phase. Same with Rumble. I don't know what it is, but there's something I don't get about their respective laning phases.
Kennen. But it's not that I don't get how to play him but it's I don't get how to have fun with him.
#1 boring champ imo. |
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| wussleeQ United States. February 18 2012 21:05. Posts 1654 | Profile Blog # |
On February 18 2012 20:57 mr_tolkien wrote: Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 19:29 Shiv. wrote: On February 18 2012 19:23 Gaslo wrote: On February 18 2012 11:36 krews wrote: Latest PBE Patch Notes have Shen nerfs, that didn't take long.
Shen
General
Base armor reduced to 19 from 23
Vorpal Blade health scaling lowered to 1.5% from 2%
Feint
Energy cost increased to 50 from 40 at all levels
Base shield value reduced to 70/115/160/205/250 from 70/120/170/220/270
So, where is that guy whos 1500 elo friends told us Shen would not be that good after the patch, lol.  I don't mind those nerfs, apart from the energy cost increase. I am so bad that i already have problems managing my energy in teamfights, and i think that after that patch i will be OOE all the time. 
He already admitted he was wrong. Are there any champions that you guys would LOVE to play but just can't get the hang of? For me, it's Riven and Rumble. Both look insanely fun when played, but I just can't make them work. I mean, yeah, I can farm with Riven and 2shot their carries come late game, but I hate not being able to abuse her strong laning phase. Same with Rumble. I don't know what it is, but there's something I don't get about their respective laning phases.
Kennen. But it's not that I don't get how to play him but it's I don't get how to have fun with him. #1 boring champ imo.
i was about to say finally someone like me who could never get the hang of kennen but no. i was wrong . |
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| bmn February 18 2012 21:22. Posts 520 | Profile # |
On February 18 2012 21:05 wussleeQ wrote: Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 20:57 mr_tolkien wrote: On February 18 2012 19:29 Shiv. wrote: On February 18 2012 19:23 Gaslo wrote: On February 18 2012 11:36 krews wrote: Latest PBE Patch Notes have Shen nerfs, that didn't take long.
Shen
General
Base armor reduced to 19 from 23
Vorpal Blade health scaling lowered to 1.5% from 2%
Feint
Energy cost increased to 50 from 40 at all levels
Base shield value reduced to 70/115/160/205/250 from 70/120/170/220/270
So, where is that guy whos 1500 elo friends told us Shen would not be that good after the patch, lol.  I don't mind those nerfs, apart from the energy cost increase. I am so bad that i already have problems managing my energy in teamfights, and i think that after that patch i will be OOE all the time. 
He already admitted he was wrong. Are there any champions that you guys would LOVE to play but just can't get the hang of? For me, it's Riven and Rumble. Both look insanely fun when played, but I just can't make them work. I mean, yeah, I can farm with Riven and 2shot their carries come late game, but I hate not being able to abuse her strong laning phase. Same with Rumble. I don't know what it is, but there's something I don't get about their respective laning phases.
Kennen. But it's not that I don't get how to play him but it's I don't get how to have fun with him. #1 boring champ imo.
i was about to say finally someone like me who could never get the hang of kennen but no. i was wrong  .
For me definitely Kennen. He looked like exactly the kind of champ I'd enjoy playing and do well at, but I suck terribly and slowly stopped playing him for that reason. I just tried out Anivia, and I suspect I'll have the same problem there.
Also any AD carry. I can't play that role. At all. I just don't have the patience to farm up or something.
Rumble is the opposite, I wasn't sure I'd enjoy him, but I'm having a blast, and I dominate lanes and team fights harder than with any other champ I've played. Not sure why, something about his play style just suits me well. |
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| Craton United States. February 18 2012 22:01. Posts 10358 | Profile Blog # |
| Everyone knows Lee Sin can be obnoxious as fuck, but actually getting to that level is hard. |
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| WhiteDog France. February 18 2012 22:03. Posts 3758 | Profile Blog # |
| Is EU West down for you too ? |
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| Dandel Ion Austria. February 18 2012 22:05. Posts 6226 | Profile # |
Both West and NE unavailable right now. NA is up though. |
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| Alaric France. February 18 2012 22:19. Posts 9261 | Profile # |
Lee Sin and Jax. I fail to get the hang of Olaf but I barely played him so I still have time. Regarding the tryharding with GP, games were pretty close actually. Ended up 53-51 on the second one or something like that, we lost top really hard, mid too, had two naked inhib at a point and lost one; Bot was won when I killed them some and again, then left my friend to farm while I went and killed stuff (including pushing enemy champs) myself and he splitpushed all day. At one point I wondered "How's he doing? I should really tell him to regroup if he doesn't have fun", then I looked and he was at the enemy inhib turret with a huge wave (#1 map awareness here).  |
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| Shiv. February 18 2012 22:26. Posts 1903 | Profile # |
On another note, would LiquidParty be interested in a Ziggs thread? I've been playing him a lot lately, been watching various people trying out different stuff on him (mainly Salce and Jiji) and I think I got a pretty good grip on how the champ works and how he's supposed to be played. I'm not the best of players (1525 Elo atm.), but I genuinely enjoy this champ more than anything they released since I actively started playing this game (Leona release.).
I sort of already started working on it, took some screenshots, started writing some stuff, but I don't want to make the thread and then realize on of our more accomplished and recognized members had plans on doing so. Last edit: 2012-02-18 22:31:54 |
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| zodde Sweden. February 18 2012 22:34. Posts 819 | Profile # |
On February 18 2012 22:26 Shiv. wrote: On another note, would LiquidParty be interested in a Ziggs thread? I've been playing him a lot lately, been watching various people trying out different stuff on him (mainly Salce and Jiji) and I think I got a pretty good grip on how the champ works and how he's supposed to be played. I'm not the best of players (1525 Elo atm.), but I genuinely enjoy this champ more than anything they released since I actively play this game (Leona release.).
I sort of already started working on it, took some screenshots, started writing some stuff, but I don't want to make the thread and then realize on of our more accomplished and recognized members had plans on doing so.
Go for it, the champion threads just need a decent start to spark the discussion anyways, 1500 should be more than enough to do that. I have to agree that Ziggs is one of the better releases that I have experienced (also started at Leona release IIRC), fun spells, cool design, a bit on the strong side of balance. Haven't had this much fun in this game for months :3 |
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| anmolsinghmzn2009 India. February 18 2012 22:57. Posts 836 | Profile # |
On February 18 2012 22:01 Craton wrote: Everyone knows Lee Sin can be obnoxious as fuck, but actually getting to that level is hard.
Lee sin is so fun to play. The ones that don't work for me are fizz and kassadin. Apparently they are really powerful post-6 but maybe I just play like a pussy :/ |
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| little fancy Germany. February 18 2012 23:00. Posts 1031 | Profile # |
On February 18 2012 19:29 Shiv. wrote:
Are there any champions that you guys would LOVE to play but just can't get the hang of? For me, it's Riven and Rumble. Both look insanely fun when played, but I just can't make them work. I mean, yeah, I can farm with Riven and 2shot their carries come late game, but I hate not being able to abuse her strong laning phase. Same with Rumble. I don't know what it is, but there's something I don't get about their respective laning phases.
Almost every non-bottom early game dominator. I love to rape faces with Garen + Panth, I have some affinity for those bursty AD casters.
But other than that, I fail horribly at AP mid for example. Vs bad players, my standard Annie / Vlad / Lanewick is more than enough, but as soon as I am up vs a competent Cass / Xerath / LeBlanc etc. I'm more or less fucked.
Same goes for top vs. Riven / Udyr / Lee Sin etc. Any semi competent player will beat me in lane there since I just lack the experience of solo lanes. I almost exclusively play with friends and end up bottom lane ranged AD. So if it's not a super aggressive kill lane like Ez / Leona or Alistar / Tristana, I'm used to be top farmer in the game no matter what.
I think it has something to do with the mentality you adapt to when focusing on a certain role which is why I think that I am probably not aggressive enough for AP mid or solo top (I love a 20 minute farm fest with Nasus however <3).
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| turdburgler England. February 18 2012 23:03. Posts 4676 | Profile Blog # |
| haha, ye. im the same. when im laning all i want to do is farm farm farm farm, so i love nasus and veigar. but when im jungling i like to jungle for people who are more willing to make trades in lane so ganking is easier. shows what a pro i am fo sho. |
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| mordek United States. February 18 2012 23:26. Posts 3367 | Profile Blog # |
| Going to second the Olaf. Played him on a free week seemed fun but I have trouble feeling successful or useful when I play him. You don't see him very often on streams either. |
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| Gorsameth Netherlands. February 18 2012 23:32. Posts 2026 | Profile # |
I kinda like Olaf but i do think he is underused. Especialy when you see comps like protect the kog run i sometimes wonder why it doesnt get countered by Olaf. There is very little that is going to stop him from just charging through your cc line to him. |
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| mr_tolkien France. February 19 2012 00:00. Posts 3485 | Profile Blog # |
On February 18 2012 22:57 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:01 Craton wrote: Everyone knows Lee Sin can be obnoxious as fuck, but actually getting to that level is hard.
Lee sin is so fun to play. The ones that don't work for me are fizz and kassadin. Apparently they are really powerful post-6 but maybe I just play like a pussy :/
Play Talon. You can be a pussy when you OS your opponents. |
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