| iNviSible.yunO Germany. February 21 2012 00:28. Posts 211 | Profile Blog # |
On February 20 2012 09:39 Jacobs Ladder wrote: Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 08:29 Maeldun wrote: Not a fan. Yet another invitational tournament. Yay...... lets watch the same 32 players duke it out like they always do, without having to go through any qualifiers whatsoever. And they get the fat juicy $10k prizepool while the Collegiates get to split $1.5k.
I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say without any evidence or idea of the truth whatsoever, that Day9 was invited to cast and he turned it down.
If esports continues like this (shitty invitational formats + turning to ppv) it will die really really fast in the West. Korea will remain as the final vestige of professional Starcraft like it used to.
Let me tell you a story. Almost two years ago a group of less than 30 students got together to start a starcraft club. Our first tournament had a budget of exactly the entrance fee, we manage a $700 prize pool. That was higher than I thought it would be, considering we started with literally nothing. It was held in a classroom where the players and spectators sat and an office for the players being casted. It was small and only a few big name players came. We ate lunch together it was awesome. Tespa barely broke even after that tournament. Our only sponser stiffed us. We made it though. We grew, gained more officers to help run events and managed to find a few ways of making money (for example, selling donuts around campus and our probe shirt, which Day9 and Huk wear on occasion). We learned and we decided our next tournament was going to be bigger and better. Despite bureaucratic bullshit from the university and a few other problems we did it. A $1500 tournament, a better venue, a some great games. This was amazing. We're just a group of college kids, most of us engineering and computer science students with no experience running events and we did this! Once again, we wanted more. I sadly had to bow out of tespa at this point. This is a volunteer organization and real life had caught up with me. Because of my lessened involvement I'm less familiar with our third tournament but just as proud of it. It was $3000, once again doubling our prize pool (and more than doubling our budget). Incontrol came in to cast it in our first really professional venue. We weren't in a classroom anymore, this was a fucking ballroom! The players too, had been steadily improving. At the first tournament only a few pros showed up looking easy money (or, as ZpuX, an exchange student from Sweden put it, "beer money"). The second was an improvement, we had a few semi-pros. This time our brackets were stacked, we had Vile Hawk and State, QxG.Inka, KiwiClone's Binksi and HeavonEarth as well as several other GM players. It barely resembled the amateur, one room, overheated first tournament. By most standards it was a professional event. Now they're hosting a $10k dollar invitational, real pros from all over the world flying to Austin Texas because less than 3 friends got together and started a club. Numerous colleges driving countless miles because 30 people met in a classroom and thought this sounded awesome. You say this sort of thing will kill Esports in the west. I say this is the only way to grow esports in the west. The Rosen's, CSN, and all of Tespa are running this invitational because they love it. This isn't for fame or glory, its because they are passionate and driven. This is the future of esports and I'm proud to be tangentially associated with it.
Thanks for writing this^^ Its really nice to have this kind of insight. I hope this one is gonna be very successful! That being said - I too prefer real tournaments over invitationals, but from an organizers perspective, sometimes invitationals seem to be the better choice. There is nothing wrong with that.
Keep up the good work!Last edit: 2012-02-21 00:32:05 |
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| ClairvoyanceSC2 United States. February 21 2012 00:29. Posts 570 | Profile # |
| YAY. Destiny is playing! Hopefully some brofestor drops. |
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| Shinespark Chile. February 21 2012 00:30. Posts 569 | Profile # |
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| CrAyZeD United States. February 21 2012 01:47. Posts 36 | Profile # |
| Im in Dallas i cant wait to see this! |
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| cHaNg-sTa United States. February 21 2012 02:12. Posts 1049 | Profile Blog # |
On February 20 2012 08:29 Maeldun wrote: Not a fan. Yet another invitational tournament. Yay...... lets watch the same 32 players duke it out like they always do, without having to go through any qualifiers whatsoever. And they get the fat juicy $10k prizepool while the Collegiates get to split $1.5k.
I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say without any evidence or idea of the truth whatsoever, that Day9 was invited to cast and he turned it down.
If esports continues like this (shitty invitational formats + turning to ppv) it will die really really fast in the West. Korea will remain as the final vestige of professional Starcraft like it used to.
Is this for real? TeSPA has done an AMAZING job! I can't tell you how proud I am of all the guys (and gals!) that came about to THE University of Texas and have slowly grown to this amazing organization. SC has always been very underground during the BW days, I graduated in 2010 during the very first years of CSL BW days. We had some great, albeit very few players on the scene, but we were able to enjoy LAN parties either at my apartment or in Jester West basement with people walking about and showing a lot of curiosity. But altogether, the amount of "members" we had (in combination with all the Melee people that I was a part of as well) was very pitiful.
Now what comes a long? This huge organization called TeSPA that has shown amazing growth with some of the most dedicated people in the whole community that are just college students whom I can imagine don't have a lot of money and also have school to attend to at the same time. Yet, they are able to throw this huge invitational event that ANY state would kill to have and go attend. Very few universities are even capable of pulling this off (huge props to all the big components of CSL btw), and yet, we expect them to pull off an innovated and perfect tournament with long qualifiers and group play that takes MUCH MORE time and not to mention renting out university space for even more money?? I'm sure TeSPA had to double check their budget a lot to ensure they can promise all this money to the best of their capabilities
Let's just think about this a little more logically before we spat out random words, this is a tournament primarily for the audience, and in invitational like this how NASL did is a great way of doing so. Not to mention they're also having a great collegiate battle along side with it! No one in TeSPA is thinking about "profits" is these situations, collegiate battles is not about the money (although $1500 is still nice), it's more about fighting for the pride of your school just like any other football game. We will squeeze out money for tickets because we just want to be a part of something amazing, and LONGHORN FOOTBALL is nothing short of it  Last edit: 2012-02-21 02:15:56 |
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| cKgQuasheR United States. February 21 2012 03:01. Posts 26 | Profile # |
| wow, I am a NAU alum, so AWESOME to see them going to this. LUMBERJACKS FIGHTING!!!!!!! |
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| ELA Denmark. February 21 2012 03:08. Posts 4570 | Profile # |
Really impressed that you guys have started this around a college movement - Hats off to you!
I would have liked to have seen abit more cash for the open tournament, like some others here - I realize that you figured that you needed the names to get in some expososure - I really don't have anything to complain about really, I get to watch some awesome Starcraft either way ^^ |
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| fcb10 February 21 2012 03:17. Posts 113 | Profile # |
| some korean invitees please!! |
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| nilleftw Germany. February 21 2012 03:28. Posts 11 | Profile # |
| Destiny and NonY -.- Are there no other players available? |
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| bluQ Germany. February 21 2012 03:32. Posts 1095 | Profile # |
On February 21 2012 03:28 nilleftw wrote: Destiny and NonY -.- Are there no other players available?
Don't watch it? There is enough "high quality" player tournaments coming up. Im thrilled to see Destiny and Nony tearing some guys apart.Last edit: 2012-02-21 03:32:33 |
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| ReAson75 United States. February 21 2012 03:36. Posts 120 | Profile Blog # |
On February 21 2012 03:17 fcb10 wrote: some korean invitees please!!
As you say! Keep an eye out in the coming days :D |
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| fcb10 February 21 2012 03:37. Posts 113 | Profile # |
On February 21 2012 03:36 ReAson75 wrote:As you say! Keep an eye out in the coming days :D
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| NexaS United States. February 21 2012 04:21. Posts 201 | Profile Blog # |
| This tournament is looking better and better every time I come to this thread. |
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| Bagration United States. February 21 2012 04:44. Posts 11502 | Profile Blog # |
| Quantic Destiny should not come as a too much of a surprise, as Quantic is a tournament partner. Hopefully we see Naniwa and Sase as well. |
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| LittleCoin February 21 2012 05:00. Posts 32 | Profile # |
| Any chance the quotes from the next player can be put up a little earlier, so those of us who are eagerly awaiting the news have something to work with? |
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| sephuys United States. February 21 2012 07:23. Posts 43 | Profile # |
This tournament is looking to be exciting already Very stoked about NonY and Destiny  |
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| ReAson75 United States. February 21 2012 07:34. Posts 120 | Profile Blog # |
On February 21 2012 05:00 LittleCoin wrote: Any chance the quotes from the next player can be put up a little earlier, so those of us who are eagerly awaiting the news have something to work with?
Sure, we'll get them out a bit earlier in the evenings. |
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| IMoperator February 21 2012 07:36. Posts 1670 | Profile # |
| Is this tournament online? |
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| CallmeMuppet Ireland. February 21 2012 07:39. Posts 175 | Profile # |
Oh why hello there.
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| iceburn United States. February 21 2012 07:43. Posts 302 | Profile Blog # |
| No this will be a lan event in Austin Texas, it will be streamed online thou! |
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