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| Jackal58 United States. February 23 2012 02:51. Posts 4264 | Profile # |
| Syllo, have you ever played with prplhz before? That's about as lucid as he gets. |
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| DoctorHelvetica United States. February 23 2012 02:51. Posts 13955 | Profile Blog # |
On February 23 2012 02:43 syllogism wrote:prplhz looks pretty awful. He doesn't really have many opinions of his own, asks a lot of questions and his posts are constructed in a way that makes it look like he is just filling space. He appears certain that redff isn't mafia, but also thinks he has to be lynched at some point. Just look at this post
Show nested quote +Okay I don't think that redFF is scum because he's been pretty out there. The scummiest he has done in my opinion is his claim which was oddly timed. Right now he's a terribly easy lynch, because we'll have to lynch him at some point. I'd like to see wherebugsgo explain how everything redFF has done can be explained by scum motivation and can not be explained by town motivation. The worst thing about this whole redFF thing is that the lynch is so easy that everybody can just pile onto him and then the day is kinda ruined, we aren't going to find anybody else. I don't think that redFF is scum because he's just been putting himself too much in the line of fire.
A lot of things are suspicious about this post, but just to name one he asserts that redff is an easy lynch and thus we "aren't going to find anybody else". That is complete nonsense and just seems filler. Him randomly assigning blame on wbg seems off too. He thinks redff is not scum, but hasn't even tried to find anyone else. The only thing he has going for him is his attack on bc, but considering he is just sheeping me and not pushing at all, that doesn't mean much. He hasn't bothered to post today and he has definitely been around but doesn't seem to care.
His point isn't the kind that I'd make, but it's understandable. He was right to call out WBG too, if WBG is going to say everything redFF has done is scummy despite defending him half the game (then falsely accusing me of doing the same) he should explain why.
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| VisceraEyes United States. February 23 2012 02:58. Posts 9694 | Profile Blog # |
Ya it's cool, I like being ignored except by people calling me scum.
I'm looking into prplhz now and I'll be back in a bit. |
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| RebirthOfLeGenD USA. February 23 2012 03:04. Posts 5342 | Profile Blog # |
On February 23 2012 02:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 02:43 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On February 23 2012 02:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 23 2012 02:22 Jitsu wrote:
On February 22 2012 11:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 22 2012 11:44 Jitsu wrote:
I wouldn't roll with a BC lynch at the moment. He pretty much said exactly what I was thinking with the "role does not equal alignment." There is no defined set-up information, and it could be plausible that a tracker type would be on the mafia side. No?
Dirkzor
Cool case, brah. Would it be ok to say that chaoser is a red read to you, then? If not, who then?
He made one okay point therefore we shouldn't lynch him? I agree with it too. That doesn't mean anything really. BC is way better than this. He's playing negatively, passively, he's criticizing others for not contributing past the PL discussion but offers nothing to the thread himself. Yeah, RedFF could be faking it and the fact that he hasn't said a role name yet makes me suspect but I feel way stronger about BC with that last post of his now.
The fact that I had the same idea is less about me agreeing with it and more about having the same train of thought. Did you read L? Everyone was making the same case about him in L, saying how he was causing more chaos then good, especially with revealing his role. Not comfortable with lynching him at this point. I could get down with a Dirkzor lynch. - non-committal early on, staying out of the spotlight for the most part. - says that chaoser is curious because he is "flippy floppy" -
On February 21 2012 18:44 Dirkzor wrote:
RedFF's fast unvote of Tyrran was weird after he had pushed and defended his policy lynch so much.
Kita's vote on (policy?) Tyrran while attacking Toad for defending Tyrran while attacking RedFF for his history regarding policy lynches and then unvoting Tyrran to vote RedFF is weird. Don't know what I should think about it. I like that you can argue with someone while still having the same opinion but this just looks way to double sided.
I see no scummyness from Chaoser's town read on VE. Other people have done similarly things in this game. But chaoser as a whole is a bit flip floppy...
This post makes just about zero sense to me. It's more of the same, with a bit of confusion as well. If I wanted to post something to make it look like a contribution, this would be it. - says he can't wrap his head around this game, then two posts later, claims chaoser as his primary scumread, and adds a [weak] case about how chaoser is scum. - doesn't even vote for chaoser, even though it's his target. Something is up. ##vote Dirkzor
No, I'm completely unfamiliar with BC's meta other than a game I played with him as scum too long ago to remember. That game was a perfect victory for us too. Dirkzor has made some alarming posts but also some solid points against other players, I want to hear how he responds to criticism before I consider lynching him because I may just be misunderstanding or misreading him.
On February 23 2012 02:26 Blazinghand wrote:
I still don't see what the problem is with lynching redFF at this point. He's never gonna get shot by the mafia if he's town just to make us sad, will get RBed or *And I think this is the case* he's just mafia and punched out this tracker claim since he's out of breathing room and will claim RB.
So you sheep all game and then say it's okay to lynch town just because "mafia won't shoot him" night 1? How do you know what the mafia will do? WIFOM galore and lynching town is not okay.
K, I know you are smarter than this or at the very least functionally literate, so I'm going to give you around 20 minutes to read the last 3 pages of the thread and realize why this isn't some dumb wifom shit, its an obvious end result of RedFF's dipshit scummy claim.
It is WIFOM. I agree scum would probably not shoot redFF if he is town AND survives Day 1 considering he's distracting and an easy lynch target, but I don't agree that it's alright to lynch town. redFF's claim is stupid and I'm not sold on it considering he didn't even say a name with it and just dipped out immediately. They should roleblock him but I just don't like making arguments or lynches based on predicting what the mafia will do. I can think of countless times I've been scum and we've concocted to do the opposite of what town would expect, even make bad shots just to confuse people. Mafia is not a game played by machines that make the most efficient decisions and even if what he said is likely correct, it is not helpful.
You just got bumped up a few priorities on my scum list congrats, you are now neck and neck with BC. |
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| RebirthOfLeGenD USA. February 23 2012 03:05. Posts 5342 | Profile Blog # | |
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| prplhz Denmark. February 23 2012 03:06. Posts 3928 | Profile Blog # |
| I'd be very dissatisfied with getting lynched day1. I have been quite busy but I'm around so start shooting if you have anything. I'm still at page 27 when syllogism starts gunning for me so I'm not totally up to date. |
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| syllogism Finland. February 23 2012 03:06. Posts 5337 | Profile # |
| RoL, but you are voting for redff still. Do you think it's likely that he will flip scum? |
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| syllogism Finland. February 23 2012 03:07. Posts 5337 | Profile # |
| Prplhz that seems awfully convenient timing |
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| syllogism Finland. February 23 2012 03:09. Posts 5337 | Profile # |
| By the way, it's page 28 and 15 minutes ago so you not being "totally up to date" means you are only missing the last 15 minutes |
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| DoctorHelvetica United States. February 23 2012 03:09. Posts 13955 | Profile Blog # |
On February 23 2012 03:04 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 02:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 23 2012 02:43 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On February 23 2012 02:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 23 2012 02:22 Jitsu wrote:
On February 22 2012 11:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 22 2012 11:44 Jitsu wrote:
I wouldn't roll with a BC lynch at the moment. He pretty much said exactly what I was thinking with the "role does not equal alignment." There is no defined set-up information, and it could be plausible that a tracker type would be on the mafia side. No?
Dirkzor
Cool case, brah. Would it be ok to say that chaoser is a red read to you, then? If not, who then?
He made one okay point therefore we shouldn't lynch him? I agree with it too. That doesn't mean anything really. BC is way better than this. He's playing negatively, passively, he's criticizing others for not contributing past the PL discussion but offers nothing to the thread himself. Yeah, RedFF could be faking it and the fact that he hasn't said a role name yet makes me suspect but I feel way stronger about BC with that last post of his now.
The fact that I had the same idea is less about me agreeing with it and more about having the same train of thought. Did you read L? Everyone was making the same case about him in L, saying how he was causing more chaos then good, especially with revealing his role. Not comfortable with lynching him at this point. I could get down with a Dirkzor lynch. - non-committal early on, staying out of the spotlight for the most part. - says that chaoser is curious because he is "flippy floppy" -
On February 21 2012 18:44 Dirkzor wrote:
RedFF's fast unvote of Tyrran was weird after he had pushed and defended his policy lynch so much.
Kita's vote on (policy?) Tyrran while attacking Toad for defending Tyrran while attacking RedFF for his history regarding policy lynches and then unvoting Tyrran to vote RedFF is weird. Don't know what I should think about it. I like that you can argue with someone while still having the same opinion but this just looks way to double sided.
I see no scummyness from Chaoser's town read on VE. Other people have done similarly things in this game. But chaoser as a whole is a bit flip floppy...
This post makes just about zero sense to me. It's more of the same, with a bit of confusion as well. If I wanted to post something to make it look like a contribution, this would be it. - says he can't wrap his head around this game, then two posts later, claims chaoser as his primary scumread, and adds a [weak] case about how chaoser is scum. - doesn't even vote for chaoser, even though it's his target. Something is up. ##vote Dirkzor
No, I'm completely unfamiliar with BC's meta other than a game I played with him as scum too long ago to remember. That game was a perfect victory for us too. Dirkzor has made some alarming posts but also some solid points against other players, I want to hear how he responds to criticism before I consider lynching him because I may just be misunderstanding or misreading him.
On February 23 2012 02:26 Blazinghand wrote:
I still don't see what the problem is with lynching redFF at this point. He's never gonna get shot by the mafia if he's town just to make us sad, will get RBed or *And I think this is the case* he's just mafia and punched out this tracker claim since he's out of breathing room and will claim RB.
So you sheep all game and then say it's okay to lynch town just because "mafia won't shoot him" night 1? How do you know what the mafia will do? WIFOM galore and lynching town is not okay.
K, I know you are smarter than this or at the very least functionally literate, so I'm going to give you around 20 minutes to read the last 3 pages of the thread and realize why this isn't some dumb wifom shit, its an obvious end result of RedFF's dipshit scummy claim.
It is WIFOM. I agree scum would probably not shoot redFF if he is town AND survives Day 1 considering he's distracting and an easy lynch target, but I don't agree that it's alright to lynch town. redFF's claim is stupid and I'm not sold on it considering he didn't even say a name with it and just dipped out immediately. They should roleblock him but I just don't like making arguments or lynches based on predicting what the mafia will do. I can think of countless times I've been scum and we've concocted to do the opposite of what town would expect, even make bad shots just to confuse people. Mafia is not a game played by machines that make the most efficient decisions and even if what he said is likely correct, it is not helpful.
You just got bumped up a few priorities on my scum list congrats, you are now neck and neck with BC.
Okay.
If there is any reason scum won't shoot RoL, it'd be the fact that he seems to have quit the game and will probably get modkilled anyway. |
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| VisceraEyes United States. February 23 2012 03:11. Posts 9694 | Profile Blog # |
I'm just going to come out and say it - I don't see anything that indicates scum in prplhz filter. Unless you feel like his 'inactivity' is lynch-worthy, but he has more actual 'content' than players such as Blazinghand or Tyrran.
Yeah, not feeling a prplhz lynch today gents. |
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| syllogism Finland. February 23 2012 03:11. Posts 5337 | Profile # |
| Lynch prplhz please. You would be very dissatisfied with getting lynched day 1? Does that mean you would be satisfied with being lynched later? Isn't that worse? How does saying that make sense at all |
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| VisceraEyes United States. February 23 2012 03:14. Posts 9694 | Profile Blog # |
Actually, RoL can be safely removed from my lynch list and replaced by BH - this guy is active to a fault in games he rolls town - I haven't seen that at all this game. All I've seen is a bunch of mudslinging and sheep-voting. Not diggin it.
Blazinghand relaced RebirthOfLegenD on my Lynch-List. |
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| VisceraEyes United States. February 23 2012 03:15. Posts 9694 | Profile Blog # |
| Syllo, you imagine that someone with 3 votes has less of a chance of getting lynched than a new target? SWRONGWITCHOO? |
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| Dirkzor Denmark. February 23 2012 03:16. Posts 1341 | Profile Blog # |
On February 23 2012 02:22 Jitsu wrote:I could get down with a Dirkzor lynch. - non-committal early on, staying out of the spotlight for the most part. - says that chaoser is curious because he is "flippy floppy" -
Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 18:44 Dirkzor wrote:
RedFF's fast unvote of Tyrran was weird after he had pushed and defended his policy lynch so much.
Kita's vote on (policy?) Tyrran while attacking Toad for defending Tyrran while attacking RedFF for his history regarding policy lynches and then unvoting Tyrran to vote RedFF is weird. Don't know what I should think about it. I like that you can argue with someone while still having the same opinion but this just looks way to double sided.
I see no scummyness from Chaoser's town read on VE. Other people have done similarly things in this game. But chaoser as a whole is a bit flip floppy...
This post makes just about zero sense to me. It's more of the same, with a bit of confusion as well. If I wanted to post something to make it look like a contribution, this would be it. - says he can't wrap his head around this game, then two posts later, claims chaoser as his primary scumread, and adds a [weak] case about how chaoser is scum. - doesn't even vote for chaoser, even though it's his target. Something is up. ##vote Dirkzor
Yeah I was out of the spotlight in the beginning.. I made 2 posts and went to sleep and woke up to 8 pages of shitstorm and mudslinging which I didn't know what do with. I wrote a short post about small things i had noticed because I wanted to contribute.
People pushed me on this post and called it non committal (which it was because I wasn't sure). So I posted saying that I would lynch chaoser since he was the one of the 3 that I thought was most scummy. I did not vote because I wasn't sure.
I still have chaoser on my "to watch" list. But on not screaming "SCUM" from the top of my lungs - I'm not sure!
I am however pretty sure about Blazinghand. Thus why I voted for him. |
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| Blazinghand United States. February 23 2012 03:17. Posts 12224 | Profile Blog # |
On February 23 2012 03:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Actually, RoL can be safely removed from my lynch list and replaced by BH - this guy is active to a fault in games he rolls town - I haven't seen that at all this game. All I've seen is a bunch of mudslinging and sheep-voting. Not diggin it.
Blazinghand relaced RebirthOfLegenD on my Lynch-List.
Ah yes you're right I never sling mud in any of my games, i am the paragon of respect |
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| syllogism Finland. February 23 2012 03:17. Posts 5337 | Profile # |
| A lot of people have stated that they aren't willing to lynch BC on day 1 and I'll be around for 2+ hours in case we can actually make that happen. Also I think prplhz might look worse, especially after showing up like that immediately after I started pushing for him and then basically lying about not being up to date. |
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| prplhz Denmark. February 23 2012 03:17. Posts 3928 | Profile Blog # |
So what about the timing?
I don't have a lot of time, try read the game carefully, make a ton of notes, see that you're pushing me and I say that I'm here. Would it be more townie of me not to say that I'm here when I'm about to get lynched or what are you getting at?
I don't think that redFF is scum because his claim timing and his lack of activity was announced in the thread beforehand, his activity and putting-himself-outthere seems very townie. The wagon is also rolling too easy. It was stupid of me to say that we'd have to lynch him at some point, you have pointed out that we don't and that's a pretty simple conclusion and I support that. I think BloodyC0bbler is more scummy, but I think there might be better targets today that I'm more comfortable with. This is like Responsibility Mafia! where BloodyC0bbler was just gone, but he has been scummy so far. |
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| syllogism Finland. February 23 2012 03:18. Posts 5337 | Profile # |
| Would you be open to posting your notes then? Right now? |
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| VisceraEyes United States. February 23 2012 03:19. Posts 9694 | Profile Blog # |
On February 23 2012 03:17 prplhz wrote:
So what about the timing?
I don't have a lot of time, try read the game carefully, make a ton of notes, see that you're pushing me and I say that I'm here. Would it be more townie of me not to say that I'm here when I'm about to get lynched or what are you getting at?
I don't think that redFF is scum because his claim timing and his lack of activity was announced in the thread beforehand, his activity and putting-himself-outthere seems very townie. The wagon is also rolling too easy. It was stupid of me to say that we'd have to lynch him at some point, you have pointed out that we don't and that's a pretty simple conclusion and I support that. I think BloodyC0bbler is more scummy, but I think there might be better targets today that I'm more comfortable with. This is like Responsibility Mafia! where BloodyC0bbler was just gone, but he has been scummy so far.
So do you think BC is scum or not? You said he's more scummy, but then cited a game that "this is like" in which BC is town - so which is it? Do you think he's inactive town or scum?
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