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| LilClinkin Australia. February 20 2012 16:02. Posts 604 | Profile Blog # |
Hi TL, I'm currently looking for components to build a new PC. I want it to be very quiet.
My current specs so far:
Ivy Bridge Core i7 3770S cpu ATI 7970 gfx card 2TB 5900RPM Seagate HDD 60GB SSD
I'm looking at the current range of cases available. It is a difficult choice to decide which case to buy as there are so many. I'm currently considering Antec P193 V3, Antec Solo II, Aerocool X-predator, but I've barely browsed half of the available cases.
I am going to purchase sound dampening material for whatever case I do end up choosing. I'm also happy to install a water cooling system and/or larger than stock fans/radiators if it is necessary and will produce audible reductions in noise. |
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| Alryk United States. February 20 2012 16:25. Posts 2401 | Profile Blog # |
Won't need a full tower.
The fractal design define r3 is a very good choice though. You might want to consider a full SSD though, since they're quieter than HDDs (I believe.)
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| skyR Canada. February 20 2012 16:30. Posts 11345 | Profile # |
Cases such as the Antec P183 already come with sound dampening material. Corsair 550D will be out by the time you are ready to purchase so that's another case to consider.
It seems like you have the money to dump so I'm not sure why you're only getting a 60gb SSD?
You'd want a Noctua NH-D14, Thermalright Silver Arrow, Phanteks PH-TC14PE, or another top-end heatsink. Since you aren't overclocking, water cooling would essentially be a huge waste of money. |
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| Myrmidon United States. February 20 2012 16:31. Posts 8551 | Profile Blog # |
Well obviously this is long-term planning, as I don't think you'll find an i7-3770S anywhere these days...
For that matter, why an S model? You know you can run those "normal" 95W TDP processors just fine even passively, on an aftermarket cooler (though I'd suggest just a low-speed fan), and the power draw is going to go down with Ivy Bridge. Officially, TDP is going down to 77W for the normal models anyway.
Solo II may be the best for dampening, certainly better than the Fractal Design options, which are not bad. It also has the elastic hard drive suspensions. I don't think you'll need additional dampening material. Save the money for an aftermarket cooler for the HD 7970, which is probably going to be by far the biggest culprit.
Some Western Digital Caviar Green models and a couple others are quieter than the 5900 rpm Seagates. |
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Brootalbro Korea (South). February 20 2012 16:34. Posts 103 | Profile # |
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| Myrmidon United States. February 20 2012 17:38. Posts 8551 | Profile Blog # |
On February 20 2012 16:34 Brootalbro wrote: Will the r3 be able to hold a gtx 560?
Clearance is something close to 290 mm for expansion cards. No GTX 560 is that long; pretty much most any graphics card will fit. The longer ones tend not to have the connectors on the short side, so there's no problem for that either. |
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| Wabbit United States. February 21 2012 07:29. Posts 1011 | Profile # |
On February 20 2012 16:30 skyR wrote:
You'd want a Noctua NH-D14, Thermalright Silver Arrow, Phanteks PH-TC14PE, or another top-end heatsink. Since you aren't overclocking, water cooling would essentially be a huge waste of money.
Well, the same could be said about those 3 as well. Why not just get a Thermalright True Spirit 140 or a Gelid Tranquillo or an Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro for quieter-than-stock cooling for half the price of those? The Phanteks is pretty loud anyway, though without overclocking I guess the fans could run at the lowest settings and be quiet.
On February 20 2012 16:25 Alryk wrote: You might want to consider a full SSD though, since they're quieter than HDDs (I believe.)
The 5400/5900 RPM "Green" drives mounted with vibration-absorbing rubber in a sound dampening case should be fairly inaudible as well.Last edit: 2012-02-21 07:34:49 |
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| Alryk United States. February 21 2012 10:21. Posts 2401 | Profile Blog # |
On February 21 2012 07:29 Wabbit wrote: Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 16:30 skyR wrote:
You'd want a Noctua NH-D14, Thermalright Silver Arrow, Phanteks PH-TC14PE, or another top-end heatsink. Since you aren't overclocking, water cooling would essentially be a huge waste of money.
Well, the same could be said about those 3 as well. Why not just get a Thermalright True Spirit 140 or a Gelid Tranquillo or an Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro for quieter-than-stock cooling for half the price of those? The Phanteks is pretty loud anyway, though without overclocking I guess the fans could run at the lowest settings and be quiet. Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 16:25 Alryk wrote: You might want to consider a full SSD though, since they're quieter than HDDs (I believe.)
The 5400/5900 RPM "Green" drives mounted with vibration-absorbing rubber in a sound dampening case should be fairly inaudible as well.
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| phar United States. February 21 2012 15:24. Posts 614 | Profile # |
On February 20 2012 16:25 Alryk wrote:The fractal design define r3 is a very good choice though. You might want to consider a full SSD though, since they're quieter than HDDs (I believe.)
Yes, SSDs are much quieter due to not having any moving parts. If you store a lot of shit (especially videos and/or music), that's not really going to be cost-efficient though. SSDs are still like $1~$2 / GB, compared to HDDs at $0.1~$0.2 (even with the inflated prices atm). |
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| FA_ViPeR Germany. February 21 2012 23:00. Posts 187 | Profile # |
Since im looking at a similar setup for the near future I thought I'd mention the PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 PCS+ (slightly oc version of standard 7950, placing it between standard and 7970 performance-wise, with further oc potential). Depending on the review, it is apparently a little or quite a bit less noisy then most cards.
Sources: http://www.guru3d.com/article/powercolor-radeon-hd-7950-pcs-review/10 http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2012/test-amd-radeon-hd-7950-crossfire/9/#abschnitt_kuehlung (german site, but the numbers should be clear. Lautstarke = Noise, Last = Load. Also, click on "Weitere Messungen unter Last" at the bottom for more.)
My webresearch on CPU coolers basically produced the advice already given by skyR (Noctua NH-D14, Thermalright Silver Arrow). NH-D14 apparently offers slightly better cooling while Silver Arrow is a bit less noisy, but considering both being really good in those 2 aspects anyway I'll probably go with availability / price. Both should be able to cool even a slightly OC system at minimum RPM.
Source: http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2568 http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2525 and some other random google searches  Only other thing I read somewhere was that SilverArrow might be a little bit tricky to install, no idea if thats true.
Case-wise I'm still completely undecided myself, read varying reviews für Antec P280, LianLi cases, Fractal Design r3. Would be helpful if people with those could give their input on space (especially cpu-cooler), general noiselevel, quality of stock coolers.
Same thing goes for PSU, apparently Seasonic ones in general are relatively silent, but they also offer semi-passive and passive PSUs (X-series), for a price obviously. No idea if thats worth it though. |
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| Shauni February 21 2012 23:43. Posts 3836 | Profile Blog # |
the fanless Seasonic X-460 FL got great reviews, if you want a silent PC this is a must. Maybe you shouldn't put a 7970 with it though (even though it shouldn't exceed the specifications 38a), but whats the point of having such a noisy graphics card with a silent PSU.
I'm researching similar stuff and this is about what I've come up with so far.
Silverstone PS07B (mini) - (maybe Corsair 550D or Antec Solo II for midi, but I'm not sure you need much dampening with this level of passive cooling) Seasonic X-460 FL Passive 7850 or kepler equivalent (IT MUST WORK!) 3 slipstream 500rpm fans. Ivy Bridge probably i5 3570K processor with HR-02 (heatsink only) 3 120gb agility 3 SSDsLast edit: 2012-02-22 00:05:18 |
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| ABagOfFritos Canada. February 22 2012 02:05. Posts 454 | Profile Blog # |
| Why are people always overcomplicating these things? Just buy low speed fans or set modular fans on lower speeds and your rig will be quiet. Done. |
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| Myrmidon United States. February 22 2012 02:21. Posts 8551 | Profile Blog # |
On February 22 2012 02:05 ABagOfFritos wrote: Why are people always overcomplicating these things? Just buy low speed fans or set modular fans on lower speeds and your rig will be quiet. Done.
Modular fans? What are those? You can remove the fan and blades from the frame easily?
Also, there are such things as hard drives that make seek noise and vibrations, and for many builds, graphics cards with fans that aren't particularly convenient to replace. |
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| ABagOfFritos Canada. February 22 2012 02:23. Posts 454 | Profile Blog # |
On February 22 2012 02:21 Myrmidon wrote: Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 02:05 ABagOfFritos wrote: Why are people always overcomplicating these things? Just buy low speed fans or set modular fans on lower speeds and your rig will be quiet. Done.
Modular fans? What are those? You can remove the fan and blades from the frame easily? Also, there are such things as hard drives that make seek noise and vibrations, and for many builds, graphics cards with fans that aren't particularly convenient to replace.
HDDs aren't really a big deal, even a 7200RPM drive should be relatively quiet most of the time. If your GPU fan is loud you've done something wrong.
Edit: By modular fans I meant adjustable fan speeds, but also removeable and replaceable fan blades are an option.Last edit: 2012-02-22 02:24:38 |
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| Myrmidon United States. February 22 2012 02:44. Posts 8551 | Profile Blog # |
The issue is that different people have far different ideas of "quiet."
In a relatively open chassis (never mind one that actually transmits the vibrations), with lowish ambient noise and all fans dialed down, most 7200 rpm drives could easily be heard over the rest of the system when seeking.
I think you're talking about fans with pulse-width modulation (PWM) speed control? What does that have to do with modularity? |
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| ABagOfFritos Canada. February 22 2012 02:48. Posts 454 | Profile Blog # |
On February 22 2012 02:44 Myrmidon wrote: The issue is that different people have far different ideas of "quiet."
In a relatively open chassis (never mind one that actually transmits the vibrations), with lowish ambient noise and all fans dialed down, most 7200 rpm drives could easily be heard over the rest of the system when seeking.
I think you're talking about fans with pulse-width modulation (PWM) speed control? What does that have to do with modularity?
No need to nitpick here, modularity was the wrong word to use on my part. What I said was that fans with adjustable speeds of any sort will allow for your PC to be very quiet or very loud depending on what you want for air flow. My own build is a completely open case (Danger Den Torture Rack) and my HDD is 7200 rpm and I can barely hear it. The loudest part is probably my CPU fan (Cooler Master V8) and it runs at about 1900 RPM and even that is hardly noticeable.
More than anything what I'm trying to say is that all these specific suggestions for parts and fans and whatnot are pointless when in the end all you need is low speed parts in general. |
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