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| Shikyo Finland. April 04 2012 21:18. Posts 20589 | Profile Blog # |
On April 04 2012 21:16 Dandel Ion wrote:Chalice really strong on ryze. What do you mean?
No it's not, it delays his core by far too much. He has all 6 slots filled by 20min anyway, Chalice's a completely wasted slot. Ryze has 4500 mana and unless he spams all his spells on creeps he's never going to run out of mana before having to go back to base |
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| vasculaR Malaysia. April 04 2012 21:19. Posts 514 | Profile # |
| good game. was fun to watch |
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| Goshawk. United Kingdom. April 04 2012 21:19. Posts 3374 | Profile Blog # |
| Such poor itemization by NEB really cost them imoimo. |
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| Dandel Ion Austria. April 04 2012 21:19. Posts 6227 | Profile # |
On April 04 2012 21:17 IntoTheWow wrote:
Why did ryze get a revolver, Lulu has a WOTA already
Double WotA, pro tactics
Najin finally pulling themself together "just fucking go kill them"-style
€: That game was actually entertaining, with all the WTF momentsLast edit: 2012-04-04 21:20:22 |
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| shrinkmaster Germany. April 04 2012 21:19. Posts 656 | Profile # | |
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| Schwopzi Netherlands. April 04 2012 21:20. Posts 550 | Profile # |
| Nautilus initiating on a backline target again. He rly managed to make the worst decisions possible the last 2 fights. |
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| justiceknight Singapore. April 04 2012 21:21. Posts 2538 | Profile Blog # |
| how many ACE did najin got for this game? 4? |
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| Inflicted_ Australia. April 04 2012 21:21. Posts 3154 | Profile # |
On April 04 2012 21:18 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 21:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2012 21:15 -Kato- wrote:
What is this Ryze doing with Chalice?
Chalice really strong on ryze. What do you mean?
No it's not, it delays his core by far too much. He has all 6 slots filled by 20min anyway, Chalice's a completely wasted slot. Ryze has 4500 mana and unless he spams all his spells on creeps he's never going to run out of mana before having to go back to base
This. If you wanted mres, you can just build Negatron Cape which goes into a Banshee's Veil or perhaps GA later on. With a Tear of the Goddess and Soraka, you'll never run out of mana. |
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| sob3k United States. April 04 2012 21:21. Posts 4680 | Profile Blog # |
On April 04 2012 21:18 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 21:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2012 21:15 -Kato- wrote:
What is this Ryze doing with Chalice?
Chalice really strong on ryze. What do you mean?
No it's not, it delays his core by far too much. He has all 6 slots filled by 20min anyway, Chalice's a completely wasted slot. Ryze has 4500 mana and unless he spams all his spells on creeps he's never going to run out of mana before having to go back to base
Its very bad, opening tear makes ryze very squishy and weak early....adding chalice makes him worthless. He should have so much mana anyway with runes and cata that it really isnt an issue, he will run out of health way before mana.
they also ran him in a soraka lane.....tear and chalice and soraka infuse....obscenely overkill on the mana. |
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| DonKey_ Liechtenstein. April 04 2012 21:22. Posts 858 | Profile # |
| Spiral Cats :3 cute Last edit: 2012-04-04 21:22:23 |
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| pschiu Singapore. April 04 2012 21:23. Posts 196 | Profile # |
| Well, that was fun to watch, but it looked more like a lulzy showmatch than a serious game. Dem Koreans cheering made things sound so epic though. Also a small part of me died inside as I witness Ryze's build through the game. And that Kat cosplayer looks a little awkward, lacks a little flair. |
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| Caphe Vietnam. April 04 2012 21:25. Posts 7734 | Profile Blog # |
| Lulu is quite good at the protect the AD carry game. I wonder if we're gonna see her in protect the Kogmar team comp. |
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| Nautilus managed to take the worst engagements when his team were out of position or even moving back. Poor initiations lost them the game, then again, he did ninja that baron in style so yeah... |
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| Schwopzi Netherlands. April 04 2012 21:32. Posts 550 | Profile # |
On April 04 2012 21:21 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 21:18 Shikyo wrote:
On April 04 2012 21:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2012 21:15 -Kato- wrote:
What is this Ryze doing with Chalice?
Chalice really strong on ryze. What do you mean?
No it's not, it delays his core by far too much. He has all 6 slots filled by 20min anyway, Chalice's a completely wasted slot. Ryze has 4500 mana and unless he spams all his spells on creeps he's never going to run out of mana before having to go back to base
This. If you wanted mres, you can just build Negatron Cape which goes into a Banshee's Veil or perhaps GA later on. With a Tear of the Goddess and Soraka, you'll never run out of mana.
nega doesn't build into ga ...
But ye, negatron or null-magic mantle (ga, merc threads) are fine for some early magic res. |
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| Mios United States. April 04 2012 21:36. Posts 563 | Profile # |
is it over? forgot about this today
edit: hmm I guess so, do you guys recommended any matches when they become VODs?Last edit: 2012-04-04 21:40:49 |
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| DonKey_ Liechtenstein. April 04 2012 21:50. Posts 858 | Profile # |
On April 04 2012 21:36 Mios wrote:
is it over? forgot about this today
edit: hmm I guess so, do you guys recommended any matches when they become VODs?
Do not watch Super Star vs. Team OP. Not exciting or Insightful. |
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| Jamial Denmark. April 04 2012 21:52. Posts 727 | Profile # |
| Where are the vods located? Are they free to watch? |
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| Dandel Ion Austria. April 04 2012 21:52. Posts 6227 | Profile # |
On April 04 2012 21:21 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 21:18 Shikyo wrote:
On April 04 2012 21:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2012 21:15 -Kato- wrote:
What is this Ryze doing with Chalice?
Chalice really strong on ryze. What do you mean?
No it's not, it delays his core by far too much. He has all 6 slots filled by 20min anyway, Chalice's a completely wasted slot. Ryze has 4500 mana and unless he spams all his spells on creeps he's never going to run out of mana before having to go back to base
This. If you wanted mres, you can just build Negatron Cape which goes into a Banshee's Veil or perhaps GA later on. With a Tear of the Goddess and Soraka, you'll never run out of mana.
Well, no. You'll still run out of mana with only tear and Soraka. Ryze was given no blue at all (which you normally get when you're Ryze mid), so he had to build something that gives tons of manareg.
Soraka's infuse is very overrated on APs, moreso on Ryze. While the manapool increase is noticeable on ADs with 300 max mana, Ryze eats through Sora's mana with half a basketball.
He might as well have gone for Catalyst, but in the end, both do the same thing, and he wanted to get (double) WotA + SV up asap. So while chalice doesn't build into anything, it's way cheaper, so he would have reached his goto build faster. Game ended even before that, though.
Chalice was not the problem, and in that position probably the right decision.
Thing is, I don't see a way to build Ryze out of the hole NEB dug themself with their comp and bad engages. |
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| Two_DoWn United States. April 04 2012 22:03. Posts 7272 | Profile Blog # |
| I can think of literally no situation where I would ever get a chalice on ryze and not have it be an absolutely retarded choice. |
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