Will be my last newbie game possible. Was hoping to try out some different game types but it looks like those have all already started.
If there's a new player that really wants in, I will switch with them, otherwise I'm excited to play.
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Alderan
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Will be my last newbie game possible. Was hoping to try out some different game types but it looks like those have all already started. If there's a new player that really wants in, I will switch with them, otherwise I'm excited to play. | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 25 2012 12:22 gumshoe wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2012 12:04 dreamflower wrote: On February 25 2012 11:39 Alderan wrote: My predictions of how this game is going to go. metametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametametameta Ha. Seriously, if you guys make a post like this during the game (that is, posts containing "metametametametameta" or "busbusbusbusbus," I will modkill you so hard that...well, you're going to get modkilled pretty hard. Yo momma? (Well, for the first time, you'll probably just get a very stern warning in the thread. Really, please don't post like that. Good posts make for a good game...or at least a game where no one walks away angry.) I gotta say, the hosts are quickly becoming my favourite part of this game, I am almost sure that grey mist made a strong effort to bring in night fury just to make sure I had no chance of getting hawk lynched. This is my last "old game" post but I feel like it would be appreciated.... The replacement had to come in either way, because like you had already deduced if he was town you needed him to get a successful lynch, if he was scum we needed him to win. | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
Feels good to be town. As for my availability, I'm just a pretty sketchy dude (by that I mean I'm just really busy with a bunch of weird things). I'm going to try to post much more than I have in the past though, As for where I stand on a no lynch the first day: When I play mafia I HATE defining anything in absolutes, for example "we should NEVER no lynch", "X player is definitely town" etc. In my mind there are very real reasons we would want to no-lynch Day 1, namely, if there is a DEFINITIVE lack of reasonable cases at the end of the voting period, which we will have to determine. Also a Day 1 early vote deadline for me serves little to no purpose. I'd bet someone a dollar that by that time there will be someone who still has not posted yet, and there will be 2-4 people with only one introductory post. I like seeing everyone's reads with time to think about it just as much as the next guy, but when the reads are based off so little there is only so good they can possibly be... | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
This is one of them. | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 27 2012 00:04 igabod wrote: I just finished reading the thread. I agree with lynching someone day one. I also think that the fake voting deadline could work. This is the type of post you're going to want to avoid. | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 27 2012 01:52 gumshoe wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2012 01:30 Alderan wrote: On February 27 2012 00:04 igabod wrote: I just finished reading the thread. I agree with lynching someone day one. I also think that the fake voting deadline could work. This is the type of post you're going to want to avoid. Glad to have you on our side Alderaan ( : as for absolutes do you mind making decisions like that on a day to day basis? What do you mean? | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 27 2012 02:32 ghost_403 wrote: @alderan I really don't see any time where it would be advantageous to the town to not lynch. The town should first be lynching scum. If we can't find scum, we should instead lynch people who are not useful to the town. Lurkers fit the second criteria perfectly. By lurking, you are providing cover for the scum to hide, which is in every case bad for the town. I mean, look, I get it, if there's a hardcore lurker then we should lynch them, I'm fine with that. If there's not, and there are no adequate cases on who is scum I don't think it's worth it. Disclaimer: It is much more likely that we have an adequate lynch target than we don't. My point is that we don't rule the possibility out. | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
Fourface I'm going to tell you the same advice someone told gumshoe last game. - Chill out - Keep your posts CONCISE - Only post when you're going to contribute - Chill out | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
Who does that sound like? To early to call him obv town. We shall see. | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
Chocolate is super scummy to me right now. Says things like "our vote will probably end up being a lurker"... Who says this? Even if it is the case you're giving mafia free reign to post a couple BS posts and get out of the thread. He later goes on to say I'll give them until ~6 EST to post but if they still haven't by them we should vote one. Pretty adamanent about this lurker idea, right? Wrong. NOT 3 POSTS LATER he's off his lurker train now, and onto the easiest target, namely, Fourface. Fourface, for reasons stated above is very likely not scum, but I could see Chocolate's beady little eyes now getting as wide as an anime characters in joy when he saw that Fourface made one of the most "interesting" (as to avoid getting in trouble) posts I've ever seen. Oh and this: We should probably spread out our votes, don't need two people on one lurker yet imo I don't get this either. Why would you split your votes up? If it's for pressure here is a newsflash: Votes DO NOT = Pressure Pressure is cases, pressure is discussion, a one liner and vote in the vote thread doesn't cut it. Period. Then there's: That sounds like a good idea. I really can't see any problems with that tbh, and it works well for me because in the event of a massive vote swing I probably won't be online to provide input. Steve, how often did we sit around IRC last game and joke about the thread in the hour running up to the vote? Spoiler: It was every time. Scum are going to stay absent at the end of the day unless they need to affect the vote. Chocolate has conveniently positioned himself out of that responsibility but left the opportunity open that he might be there. Just priming his defense in case he needs it. | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
Here's how I see this vote on Jeckyll going: - Ghost puts his vote on Jeckyll, cause you know they're pressuring lurkers and all. - Chocolate also puts his vote on Jeckyll, cause you know they're pressuring lurkers and all. - Ghost gets pissed in the scum qt by saying "dude back up off me, we don't need to get too associated with each other" - Chocolate is like "shit, how can I back out of this? Oh I got it! I'll say we need to diversify our pressure portfolio!!!!!11!!" - Chocolate votes on another random lurker. - Alderan figures it out. | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:08 slOosh wrote: Oop - missed Alderan's post while building my case. Looking over and will post thoughts soon. I'm going to wait for him to respond to make a comment on your case. I've got a hunch. | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:52 FourFace wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2012 13:34 gumshoe wrote: On February 27 2012 13:32 FourFace wrote: On February 27 2012 11:37 DoYouHas wrote: I'm so glad you are in this game Hyde :D, You are absolutely right. There is a reason my case ended with a FOS instead of a vote. I had 3 things in mind when I made my case. 1. FF's early posting was either bad townie or scummy. I wanted to draw FF out and get a response from him in hopes of figuring out if he leans town or scum. My case wasn't conclusive on him as scum, but it was strong enough to warrant a response. 2. I wanted to move past the point of talking about policy and start getting into the real discussion. The best way of doing this is to give the town a solid piece of analysis to start playing with. 3. I wanted to gauge the responses of others to my case. (You kind of blew this for me when you posted, but that's ok.) After his response I am leaning town for FF. Why? Because of the timestamps. FF posted his fairly long response to me 66 minutes after I posted my case against him. If you look at his pre-game posts, FF was brand new and fairly oblivious to previous games (mentioning that he did not know the abbreviations and such). That tells me that it is VERY unlikely that he is playing off gumshoe's meta from last game for 2 reasons. I find it hard to believe that FF could have read my case, gone to a scumQT, asked for help, received it in the form of "play off gumshoe's meta", written up his post, and have it checked by that scumQT, and posted it in 66 minutes. It's possible, but super unlikely. That leaves me with the option that he read SNMM7 after this game started and decided on his own to play off gumshoe's meta, also super unlikely. So, to me, the craziness of his response is geniune. Which makes me lean town for him. For now. 3. No, that's not quite it. You are way to meticulous about the whole thing, I didn't ask for any help and gumshoe was one of the people I didn't read in on, but the rest is pretty true so if the 'he's playing off gumshoe's meta' part is helping you have the right impression of me just go with that 1 & 2: I really appreciate that we are starting to point fingers. I give you a pat on the back for the effort of breaking the trivial chit-chat sigh four face what do you think of your accusers? And try not bash them in a way that could hurt their persona if they are actually town. I think DoYouHas is trying to look blue, but last game (i think.. where he won ezpz with mafia gg-ing) both him and slOosh did a way better job. I'm wondering if DoYouHas is in fact scum.. how in the world will we be able to lynch him. He's got too much cred from last game (he's basically shoving it up our nose judging by the pregame posts) and now everyone including me thinks he does a good job as town. I don't quite know what to make out of all the 'FourFace stop being insane!' 'Make sense please!' 'OMFGUS your posts are a pain to read' type of posts. I can't say their scummy but people should stop condescending and start acting protown if they claim to go by the book. What game would you be referring to? | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:59 Janaan wrote: One thing that stands out most to me about Ghost's posting is this gem right here Show nested quote + Another way to look at that is if you are still left during day 3 after 2 mislynches. There are 6 townies and 4 scum. The scum are either (1) forced to work together to stay alive, and are pretty easy to spot or (2) are going to sacrifice one of their own. Unless something goes horribly, horribly wrong, the worst case scenario for day 4 is 5 townies to 3 scum. No problem. He seems to think that it's perfectly fine for us to go 3 days without lynching a mafia, which would put us in a MYLO situation. Not exactly what I'd call a pro-town position to be in. His justification for saying this is pretty weak I think. 1. If the game gets to this point, scum obviously haven't been easy to spot, and it doesn't really get much easier. Sure, the "odds" might be more in your favor, but if you're in this situation, scum probably are pretty good at hiding in plain sight. 2. Yeah, scum might sacrifice one of their own. But 5 town/ 3 scum is still MYLO. I don't see how a townie could say that this is "no problem". Janaan, talk to me about Chocolate. | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 27 2012 15:00 FourFace wrote: "I'm not gonna just make a giant fluff post if that's what you want." Silly question, the he would have figured it out by himself though.. I think it's a scum post icebraker, someone asks a silly question and the answer is give. Like saying look at me I'm active Hey what's your opinion on whatever. Same thing as the first players lurking is an issue .. WOW i didn't see that one coming. What a revolutionary point of view believe it or not .. people are going to check your posts to see when you were active (if it really comes down to that) and the way you said it .. well maybe then but wait it might be then and then and then till then. I personally don't care then asking for an opinio again. Who exactly are you condescending here. It seems like you're just talking to youself.. I'm the crazy one here you can't have that it's taken On and off about statistics etc. "So please do I'm not gonna just make a giant fluff post if that's what you want" Yeah I want you to post fluff THIS TIME lol + Show Spoiler + reverse psychology This is a really bad way to make a case.... At least make a header stating who you're investigating. Come on man..... | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 27 2012 15:10 FourFace wrote: omg just go with it. Because I think you might be town I'm trying to help you set up your post so you will be taken seriously and given even an ounce of attention. As it stands now you are just being a nuisance. This is coming from someone who finds Janaan suspicions. | ||
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