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| strongandbig United States. February 27 2012 04:08. Posts 3183 | Profile Blog # |
At first I thought, "well, MLG actually went to the trouble to mirror the photo, that shows that they knew they were doing something wrong, or at least suspicious."
However, after I looked at the picture of Sheth and Naniwa again, I don't think that's the case. I bet that rather than trying to evade copyright, someone at MLG saw the picture of Naniwa frowning and Sheth doing a happy smile, and decided that they could make a neat "ragetoss vs mannerzerg" storyline-promoting picture by having a frowning Naniwa glowering at a smiling friendly Sheth. Probably not suspicious after all.
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| MVTaylor United Kingdom. February 27 2012 04:08. Posts 2773 | Profile Blog # |
| He went to an MLG event and took a photo, as MLG Adam says they have fine print for spectators saying they are allowed to use media taken on their premises by spectators and you agree to this when attending. End of, moron doesn't read fine print, whines on TL. |
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| ceaRshaf Romania. February 27 2012 04:08. Posts 4884 | Profile # |
On February 27 2012 04:05 The_Stampede wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 04:01 ceaRshaf wrote:
On February 27 2012 03:59 The_Stampede wrote:
On February 27 2012 03:55 ceaRshaf wrote:
On February 27 2012 03:54 Remaker12 wrote:
On February 27 2012 03:43 MLG_Adam wrote:
You can email me directly if you would like to discuss this issue instead of posting a forum thread. My email address is aa@mlgpro.com.
FYI, this is not my specific expertise at MLG, but I do know this is covered in our TOS around tickets and via signage that is posted all over our venues.
Pretty much this. If OP contacted MLG instead of posting it on TL he would have been offered a polite explanation/apology with compensation. Instead he pulls this publicity stunt. I hope he gets nothing but an empty apology.
Sorry but you are a really bad person (I would like to insult you a lot more, but you are not worth my ban). HE HAS THE RIGHT TO CALL ON MLG. And I want to be informed about this kind of issues that aren't resolved as we all expected.
If any of you agree with the law..idk what to tell you. If it's on the internet it shouldn't even be yours anymore
OMG! OMG! And MLG wants people like this to pay 20$ for a ticket. SC community fail.
Your caps show how ignorant you are. All this guy like to do is complain like the rest of the community...it's getting old. Clearly he's trying to bring drama up in the community. How about you speak to MLG first before bashing them....zzzzzzzzzz the human race amazes me when I read crap like this.
My caps show how mad I am. You post how ever shows how ignorant you are.
Hey mods please close this thread...just read for once and understand the level of derp in this thread. Why is it that when there is a drama thread every 10 year old shows up crying because mommy didn't buy them the pass or something stupid.
Ignorant much? Stop posting, a smart person like you must have more important things to do than babysit us. |
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| Ercster United States. February 27 2012 04:08. Posts 476 | Profile # |
On February 27 2012 03:57 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:56 Ercster wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, by mirroring the picture, they bypass your copyright because it isn't the same picture then. You can do this with movies to bypass their copyright.
lol no dude that's plainly wrong. Enough videos got removed from youtube because they tried that.
Youtube can take down anything they want from their site. As a matter of fact, a game reviewer I watch used to put his videos on Youtube before they took them down for copyright infringement. The intro music was copyrighted, but he had written permission by the owners to use it and brought it this up to Youtube. They still decided they weren't going to allow his videos. Videos being taken down from Youtube has no factual basis for providing copyright advice. |
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| xUnSeEnx United States. February 27 2012 04:09. Posts 183 | Profile Blog # |
I see why you are upset. But in reality who cares? Just Saying. However, I understand the reason you appear to be upset (someone stealing your work without permission). The best thing to do is write MLG or email the head honcho and just state your concerns for future MLG events.
Do not get out of hand with this, I am assuming its a simple misunderstanding. (AKA Dont make this a big deal). Last edit: 2012-02-27 04:10:40 |
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| dacimvrl Vatican City State. February 27 2012 04:09. Posts 538 | Profile # |
On February 27 2012 04:08 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 04:05 The_Stampede wrote:
On February 27 2012 04:01 ceaRshaf wrote:
On February 27 2012 03:59 The_Stampede wrote:
On February 27 2012 03:55 ceaRshaf wrote:
On February 27 2012 03:54 Remaker12 wrote:
On February 27 2012 03:43 MLG_Adam wrote:
You can email me directly if you would like to discuss this issue instead of posting a forum thread. My email address is aa@mlgpro.com.
FYI, this is not my specific expertise at MLG, but I do know this is covered in our TOS around tickets and via signage that is posted all over our venues.
Pretty much this. If OP contacted MLG instead of posting it on TL he would have been offered a polite explanation/apology with compensation. Instead he pulls this publicity stunt. I hope he gets nothing but an empty apology.
Sorry but you are a really bad person (I would like to insult you a lot more, but you are not worth my ban). HE HAS THE RIGHT TO CALL ON MLG. And I want to be informed about this kind of issues that aren't resolved as we all expected.
If any of you agree with the law..idk what to tell you. If it's on the internet it shouldn't even be yours anymore
OMG! OMG! And MLG wants people like this to pay 20$ for a ticket. SC community fail.
Your caps show how ignorant you are. All this guy like to do is complain like the rest of the community...it's getting old. Clearly he's trying to bring drama up in the community. How about you speak to MLG first before bashing them....zzzzzzzzzz the human race amazes me when I read crap like this.
My caps show how mad I am. You post how ever shows how ignorant you are.
Hey mods please close this thread...just read for once and understand the level of derp in this thread. Why is it that when there is a drama thread every 10 year old shows up crying because mommy didn't buy them the pass or something stupid.
Ignorant much? Stop posting, a smart person like you must have more important things to do than babysit us.
^ I agree
The derp is strong in this one
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| Valenius United Kingdom. February 27 2012 04:09. Posts 779 | Profile # |
On February 27 2012 04:08 mvtaylor wrote:
He went to an MLG event and took a photo, as MLG Adam says they have fine print for spectators saying they are allowed to use media taken on their premises by spectators and you agree to this when attending. End of, moron doesn't read fine print, whines on TL.
That means people can't whine about how MLG are the devil incarnate though! |
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| masterbreti Korea (South). February 27 2012 04:09. Posts 2547 | Profile Blog # |
I think the Op was obv trying to get some attention about this, otherwise I think a simple e-mail would have sufficed. basically this is a smallish issue that is purposely overblown.
I don't think there is going to any legal action taken, but more or less a public shaming. |
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| Trumpet United States. February 27 2012 04:09. Posts 1533 | Profile Blog # |
On February 27 2012 04:01 roymarthyup wrote:
LOL at anyone supporting the OP.
First of all, he can sue all he wants, he will get nothing. No court or jury will reward him anything because its not like music or video cases, its a damn picture.
In fact, the courts will reward MLG money for legal fees and the OP will be forced to pay MLG.
You can say "legally its the same as downloading and broadcasting music" all you want, the truth is courts do not operate on 100% absolute legal grounds anymore. Its all based on emotions, which is how humans operate. And humans look at videos and music and can easily see ok this dude knew this was clearly a song or a video he didnt own without paying for.
But pictures? Dude any jury will think "umm MLG just found some picture on the internet and used it."
With music and video its easy to assume the downloaded KNEW he was downloading questionable content.
But a picture, who cares. no way to know who took the picture. And if you are downloading something off the internet you dont KNOW is questionable, then any jury will say you are not guilty because theres no way for you to know you were doing anything wrong.
What makes music and movie cases to easy is the fact that most juries will say because its music its easy to assume beyond a reasonable doubt the user knew he was committing a crime as he was doing it so it makes it easier to claim him as guilty. But with internet copyright its hard to claim someone is guilty when he just downloaded something, essentially replicated it, and the jury cannot be sure he even knew it was wrong which means there could be thousands of people committing the same crime unknowingly which means it is really a sort of entrapment, and in reality the jury would decide the true victim is MLG for being a victim of unknowing entrapment.
Instead, blame will be put on the owner of the picture. If you "own" that picture you shouldnt allow it to be "posted" on the internet by anyone without a clear clause stating the picture is owned and not available for unintended use wherever the picture is "posted"
So yes, this thread is pointless. Im sure someone will respond to me saying i dont know jack legally, but the fact is, the moment the OP gets one penny in compensation, is the only moment I will start to care about this crap.
lmao. Stop acting like some legal scholar, there wouldn't even be a jury in this case. Juries are for criminal cases, not civil suits. internet legal advice -_-;; |
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| Ipp United States. February 27 2012 04:10. Posts 453 | Profile Blog # |
Generally speaking, when you attend a private event they have ownership over everything that happens there; so cases like this don't happen. The photographer agree'd to MLG's terms when he went inside their venue, which states:
"The Holder grants permission to MLG to utilize visual (including film, video, and still photography) and audio reproductions of his/her name, likelness, image or voice in any manner whatsoever."
Given, I only have a press badge to look at, I'm assuming the Spectators looks similar.
Here's a link to the back of my badge if you want to read the entire thing: http://i.imgur.com/PrBVx.jpgLast edit: 2012-02-27 04:10:49 |
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| TheAntZ Bangladesh. February 27 2012 04:10. Posts 5868 | Profile Blog # |
I read the entire opening post as "Oh shit, here's my chance to lay my hands on some sweet esports cash."
But really though, why not just take this up with MLG directly?
Probably because somehow OP thinks he can benefit from the drama. Waiting for the MLG reply to this, if there will be any. |
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| Faust852 February 27 2012 04:10. Posts 301 | Profile # |
| Please close this shitty thread. itsjustatank is an attention whore who doesn't deserve that attention. |
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| momonami5 United States. February 27 2012 04:10. Posts 107 | Profile # |
| what in the world op , so this guy can go around taking pictures of pro gamers and then sell it ? |
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 Gharst United States. February 27 2012 04:10. Posts 17 | Profile # |
| itsjustatank, do you have a mental deficiency? Next time, before you start a public witch hunt, how about you actually discuss it with MLG themselves? I'm convinced you're only in this for the drama and attention. I hope MLG shits all over you for bashing them like this, which could have been an innocent mistake. |
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| Vash_SC2 United States. February 27 2012 04:10. Posts 103 | Profile # |
On February 27 2012 04:08 mvtaylor wrote:
He went to an MLG event and took a photo, as MLG Adam says they have fine print for spectators saying they are allowed to use media taken on their premises by spectators and you agree to this when attending. End of, moron doesn't read fine print, whines on TL.
Yeah....I love how MLG allows morons like this to take pictures and they use one so the OP shits his pants because he's 12 years old. Grow up kids, and maybe I won't hate these forums as much.
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| leecH Germany. February 27 2012 04:10. Posts 385 | Profile Blog # |
On February 27 2012 03:51 Eschaton wrote:
Free MLG lifetime membership for OP =D
no this would actually be a good PR move.
lol.
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| bellz United States. February 27 2012 04:11. Posts 20 | Profile # |
| Sucks, probably just an oversight by whoever at MLG put together the image and assumed that images on Liquipedia had the same public domain or free license requirement for the vast majority of images on Wikipedia. |
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| dacimvrl Vatican City State. February 27 2012 04:11. Posts 538 | Profile # |
On February 27 2012 04:08 strongandbig wrote:At first I thought, "well, MLG actually went to the trouble to mirror the photo, that shows that they knew they were doing something wrong, or at least suspicious." However, after I looked at the picture of Sheth and Naniwa again, I don't think that's the case. I bet that rather than trying to evade copyright, someone at MLG saw the picture of Naniwa frowning and Sheth doing a happy smile, and decided that they could make a neat "ragetoss vs mannerzerg" storyline-promoting picture by having a frowning Naniwa glowering at a smiling friendly Sheth. Probably not suspicious after all.
To be fair, mirroring the photo actually makes sense. because Naniwa's photo is facing right, and it would be really odd to have both players facing right.
From a general design point of view, it would look better to have the competitors facing each other.
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| ceaRshaf Romania. February 27 2012 04:11. Posts 4884 | Profile # |
On February 27 2012 04:10 The_Stampede wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 04:08 mvtaylor wrote:
He went to an MLG event and took a photo, as MLG Adam says they have fine print for spectators saying they are allowed to use media taken on their premises by spectators and you agree to this when attending. End of, moron doesn't read fine print, whines on TL.
Yeah....I love how MLG allows morons like this to take pictures and they use one so the OP shits his pants because he's 12 years old. Grow up kids, and maybe I won't hate these forums as much.
Now you actually need to get a ban. |
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| Kaitlin United States. February 27 2012 04:11. Posts 2191 | Profile # |
| I like to hear how some of the 'piracy isn't stealing' people chime in on this one. |
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