| MiKTeX United States. February 27 2012 16:25. Posts 234 | Profile Blog # |
I really enjoyed it. my favorite part was when he not only said that the zerg was going to take a fast expand, he said the zerg was going to take a fast expand at 2:45... and lo and behold the drone was moving down the ramp at 2:37
seriously becoming a huge grubby fan |
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| ElMacedonian United States. February 27 2012 16:27. Posts 79 | Profile Blog # |
| artosis and tastless were both pros, they do have incredible insight into the game, as does day9, but if you watch a dailyand a then a cast you see a deffinite differece, casts are for entertainment and anylisis. he may have a better understanding of the most current metagame but to say that the top level casters have little understanding of the game is just untrue. grubby was great however one of my absolute fave players. |
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| tdt United States. February 27 2012 16:31. Posts 3096 | Profile # |
| Dude has "it." Could take over Oprahs show or the Tonight Show if he desired. |
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| Lysanias Netherlands. February 27 2012 16:31. Posts 5934 | Profile # |
On February 27 2012 16:27 ElMacedonian wrote:
artosis and tastless were both pros, they do have incredible insight into the game, as does day9, but if you watch a dailyand a then a cast you see a deffinite differece, casts are for entertainment and anylisis. he may have a better understanding of the most current metagame but to say that the top level casters have little understanding of the game is just untrue. grubby was great however one of my absolute fave players.
I think we can argue this a little with Tastless, but your right Artosis is as sharp as ever, and knows atleast as much as any pro gamer does. |
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| ChriS-X Australia. February 27 2012 16:32. Posts 668 | Profile # |
| this is one of the reasons people love homestory cup :3 |
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| FinalForm United States. February 27 2012 16:34. Posts 420 | Profile # |
Grubby's speech is actually extremely eloquent, he also has a great positive vibe during his casting.
Many progamers would make excellent casters, however they are of course busy being progamers. |
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| Stropheum United States. February 27 2012 16:38. Posts 1121 | Profile # |
| I feel like this belongs in a blog post, and the first 7 words summed up the whole thing pretty well. Last edit: 2012-02-27 16:38:33 |
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| loft United States. February 27 2012 16:53. Posts 105 | Profile # |
Yes!
Grubby brings great character and professional experience to the casting scene. His success over the years has translated into experience and insight that few casters can compete with.
Always friendly and funny. Good observation OP. |
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| skatbone United States. February 27 2012 16:55. Posts 926 | Profile # |
| Yea, it is more than his experience and insight: he is articulate. His way worth words coupled with his even-keeled and respectful tone make him an ideal caster imo. |
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 CaptainCharisma New Zealand. February 27 2012 17:00. Posts 808 | Profile # |
| I get the feeling that Grubby is one of those people who would be super successful at basically anything he puts his mind to. He is a smart, handsome, motivated individual, but most of all his laid-back but serious/mature nature comes across well on a personal level. |
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| DannyJ United States. February 27 2012 17:03. Posts 3815 | Profile # |
| Yeah progamers (at least the good ones) casting / analyzing games is always so interesting. If only they weren't so busy actually playing the game... |
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| Zidane United States. February 27 2012 17:04. Posts 1511 | Profile Blog # |
| To be a caster means you failed as a player. |
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| Talack Canada. February 27 2012 17:06. Posts 2510 | Profile # |
I just wish we'd get someone who plays terran casting  |
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| kheldorin Singapore. February 27 2012 17:07. Posts 532 | Profile # |
On February 27 2012 16:31 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 16:27 ElMacedonian wrote:
artosis and tastless were both pros, they do have incredible insight into the game, as does day9, but if you watch a dailyand a then a cast you see a deffinite differece, casts are for entertainment and anylisis. he may have a better understanding of the most current metagame but to say that the top level casters have little understanding of the game is just untrue. grubby was great however one of my absolute fave players.
I think we can argue this a little with Tastless, but your right Artosis is as sharp as ever, and knows atleast as much as any pro gamer does.
Does Artosis ever analyse his own games? I would love to see that. The problem with Artosis is that most of his analysis are done with perfect knowledge on what both players are doing. He also believes that there is a "right" style to play the game. Grubby on the other hand puts himself into the player's perspective. He analyses based on the information that the player has seen and really investigates why the player decided to do what he did. Artosis merely says "That player should have done this instead." That's like missing the first few steps in solving a mathematical problem. You know the result and know what you should have done but you forgot the context in which you chose the wrong decision. As a result, you'll make the mistake again. Artosis would simply say "Get more ahead when you're ahead". But Grubby would analyse why the player made that attack. Did he think that he was actually more ahead than he was? If so, why? From that he could analyse that the player should have remade observers when it got sniped after he maxxed out. And he should have remade proxy pylons around the map after they were destroyed. The other good thing about Grubby is that even if he was an ex-WC3 players, when he makes references he makes it to his own SC2 games while Tastosis would half of the time make references to BW games. |
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| HydraLF Hong Kong. February 27 2012 17:59. Posts 612 | Profile Blog # |
Yes Artosis analysis each of his game on his stream.
I agree that grubby do have a lot of knowledge which casters don't have though, that can be applied to all current pro players, it's natural that they understand the current game more than someone who play the game casually. |
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| emc United States. February 27 2012 18:01. Posts 2914 | Profile # |
don't tell slasher, he might get upset
artosis is still my favorite. |
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| karpo Sweden. February 27 2012 18:05. Posts 1998 | Profile # |
| I liked both Grubbys and Sheth/Thorzains cast. I've not watched much SC2 for a couple of months now and it was enough to watch the semis and finals to grow tired of the obvious bias of Artosis. I enjoy the players casting more because don't seem as fanboyish nor do they froth about certain players the way alot of casters do. (Mr Bitter, Artosis, D9, and Wheat seem to be the worst offenders) |
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| CheAse Canada. February 27 2012 18:12. Posts 909 | Profile Blog # |
Grubby was an excellent caster.
To be honest any caster that hasn't played in competitive tournaments before or been involved as a coach or something shouldn't be casting. There are a lot of great personalities who cast, but I can't listen and get frustrated when they don't know what they are talking about and miss key parts about the game that matter, like build order scenarios. Same thing should go for the person on the observer cam.
I'm sure that grubby won't focus on casting in the future because he wants to excel as a player, but I hope that in the future if he decides to stop playing he casts instead. |
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 Heyoka Administrator February 27 2012 18:19. | Profile Blog # |
| I don't think there is anyone who wouldn't love to see Grubby do more casting. He's a great personality and I hope he gets more air time in tournaments in the future. |
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| resilve United Kingdom. February 27 2012 18:25. Posts 678 | Profile Blog # |
On February 27 2012 15:53 Sea_Food wrote:
I am pretty sure every pro gamer knows more about strategy than any caster. Many casters know less about the game than a huge portion of the viewers.
Completely agree.
A pro player with a good personality and social skills is a far better caster than a pro caster with good game knowledge. |
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