 bgx Poland. March 16 2012 05:04. Posts 6587 | Profile # |
BG2 may be the better game same as Fallout 2 was better game than Fallout 1, yet the most revolutionary (obviously) were predecessors. I was blown away by richness of the presented world in BG1 back in that time(there was no second game like that period, only fallout could compete), when BG2 was out we already had BG1+expansion + IWD +PST, and tbh it was just more polished BG1.
Yup i deduced that from main skull and chars in the background ^^ Im happy, BG1 was always in a shadow of 2nd, while it deserves the same pride. But for god sake, get capable people to do this.Last edit: 2012-03-16 05:09:58 |
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| andrewlt United States. March 16 2012 05:07. Posts 3134 | Profile # |
On March 16 2012 04:23 Sandster wrote:
Hell, they could release the exact same games with improved pathfinding, and I'd buy them.
Haha, yeah. Pathfinding was the worst part of BG1. They improved it for BG2 but it was still horrible. Planescape and Icewind Dale series had terrible pathfinding as well.
I wonder what they're going to do with all the empty areas in BG1. If they're going to remake BG1, they could remove some of these areas, since many of them are redundant anyway, and more stuff in many of them. There were tons of areas in the middle of map that barely had anything at all except a few mob packs.Last edit: 2012-03-16 05:08:53 |
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sAw  March 16 2012 05:09. Posts 908 | Profile # |
On March 16 2012 05:07 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 04:23 Sandster wrote:
Hell, they could release the exact same games with improved pathfinding, and I'd buy them.
Haha, yeah. Pathfinding was the worst part of BG1. They improved it for BG2 but it was still horrible. Planescape and Icewind Dale series had terrible pathfinding as well.
As does Brood War.  I absolutely love all the games you mentioned, glad to see so many people think alike. ^^ |
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| rezoacken Canada. March 16 2012 05:10. Posts 1538 | Profile # |
On March 16 2012 05:09 sAw wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 05:07 andrewlt wrote:
On March 16 2012 04:23 Sandster wrote:
Hell, they could release the exact same games with improved pathfinding, and I'd buy them.
Haha, yeah. Pathfinding was the worst part of BG1. They improved it for BG2 but it was still horrible. Planescape and Icewind Dale series had terrible pathfinding as well.
As does Brood War. I absolutely love all the games you mentioned, glad to see so many people think alike. ^^
Too bad PST didnt get the love it deserved at the time  Great reviews but meh sales. |
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| bgx Poland. March 16 2012 05:12. Posts 6587 | Profile # |
On March 16 2012 05:10 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 05:09 sAw wrote:
On March 16 2012 05:07 andrewlt wrote:
On March 16 2012 04:23 Sandster wrote:
Hell, they could release the exact same games with improved pathfinding, and I'd buy them.
Haha, yeah. Pathfinding was the worst part of BG1. They improved it for BG2 but it was still horrible. Planescape and Icewind Dale series had terrible pathfinding as well.
As does Brood War. I absolutely love all the games you mentioned, glad to see so many people think alike. ^^
Too bad PST didnt get the love it deserved at the time Great reviews but meh sales.
Blade Runner was laughed on, but 10 years later the critics changed their oppinions, sometimes certain masterpieces just came in the wrong point in time.
Well in case of PST its not critics but audience.Last edit: 2012-03-16 05:13:21 |
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| Nouar France. March 16 2012 05:16. Posts 1735 | Profile # |
Trent Oster @TrentOster
@riklaunim 1st rule of #bgee Don't break the fun. We're using the 2nd Edition D&D rules.
Weeeee, I have fond memories of THAC0 and other nice numbers ! Me want now  |
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| SF-Fork Russian Federation. March 16 2012 05:19. Posts 1259 | Profile Blog # |
On March 16 2012 05:07 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 04:23 Sandster wrote:
Hell, they could release the exact same games with improved pathfinding, and I'd buy them.
Haha, yeah. Pathfinding was the worst part of BG1. They improved it for BG2 but it was still horrible. Planescape and Icewind Dale series had terrible pathfinding as well. I wonder what they're going to do with all the empty areas in BG1. If they're going to remake BG1, they could remove some of these areas, since many of them are redundant anyway, and more stuff in many of them. There were tons of areas in the middle of map that barely had anything at all except a few mob packs.
every area has an average of 3 quest//meaningful encounters. I enjoyed the mystery of adventuring and not knowing who or what I would run into. If anything, I want MORE areas! |
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| Nouar France. March 16 2012 05:20. Posts 1735 | Profile # |
The screenshots will be one week from now, at the same website, and it uses the classes from ToB.
Two games will be coming, BG1EE (this summer) and BG2EE (don't know when). Each will contain it's expansion built-in.Last edit: 2012-03-16 05:21:26 |
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| nttea Sweden. March 16 2012 05:23. Posts 4084 | Profile Blog # |
On March 16 2012 05:04 bgx wrote:
BG2 may be the better game same as Fallout 2 was better game than Fallout 1, yet the most revolutionary (obviously) were predecessors. I was blown away by richness of the presented world in BG1 back in that time(there was no second game like that period, only fallout could compete), when BG2 was out we already had BG1+expansion + IWD +PST, and tbh it was just more polished BG1.
Yup i deduced that from main skull and chars in the background ^^ Im happy, BG1 was always in a shadow of 2nd, while it deserves the same pride. But for god sake, get capable people to do this.
not at all IMO, fallout1 was a really well made game, although lacking in size compared to fallout2 it didn't have a lot of the glaring issues and bugs that were in fallout2 and while fallout2 was incredibly awesome I'd probably say fallout1 was the better game; comparing it to bg1 and 2 I'd say bg2 was the better made game as well as more revolutionary, given that it provided such a complete experience (gameplay, graphics, story, dialogue, voice acting ALL of it top-notch) |
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| SF-Fork Russian Federation. March 16 2012 05:25. Posts 1259 | Profile Blog # |
| So, if they use classes from ToB, that means we won't have to deal with 4th Ed rules? Is that possible? |
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| Duravi United States. March 16 2012 05:26. Posts 1205 | Profile # |
On March 16 2012 05:16 Nouar wrote:
Show nested quote +Trent Oster @TrentOster
@riklaunim 1st rule of #bgee Don't break the fun. We're using the 2nd Edition D&D rules.
Weeeee, I have fond memories of THAC0 and other nice numbers ! Me want now
I really hope they can make good sales. Somehow I can't see the CoD generation wanting to do any math or reading, but if they can manage to pull off good sales numbers it would be a huge thing for the gaming industry and may encourage big developers to stop dumbing down their games. |
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| Sandster United States. March 16 2012 05:28. Posts 1935 | Profile # |
On March 16 2012 04:55 empty.bottle wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 04:48 Sandster wrote:
A prequel wouldn't follow your char in BG1/2, but probably one of the other Bhaalspawn.
Also, no one mentioned what game(s) this covers. There's a (small) chance that they're letting you play the whole story in one sitting.
Can you imagine that? So many hours, that will teach one thing or two to the fucking mainstream audience/developers.
To be honest I was actually hoping they won't do that, and I'm glad they didn't. Reason is that, while it's great for old fans like us, it's kind of ridiculous to expect a new player to sit in through a 200 hour game just to reach a conclusion. At some point they'll get bored of questing and just want closure (imagine skipping those epic quests in BG2 because you got so much "filler exploration" in BG1!)
What would be ideal is: BG1+xpac for 20-30 bucks, then BG2 for 20-30, then ToB for 20 scattered a few months apart. If they added a lot of content though I can see them charging full price.
Sad they're keeping 2.5 rules...3rd edition is so much easier to understand (higher = better!) |
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| Bokchoy March 16 2012 05:32. Posts 55 | Profile # |
Sad they're keeping 2.5 rules...3rd edition is so much easier to understand (higher = better!)
what ! and obviouusly we want game to be easyer those days ........ cmon you cant really think that way omg |
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| Sandster United States. March 16 2012 05:35. Posts 1935 | Profile # |
On March 16 2012 05:32 Bokchoy wrote:
Show nested quote +Sad they're keeping 2.5 rules...3rd edition is so much easier to understand (higher = better!)
what ! and obviouusly we want game to be easyer those days ........ cmon you cant really think that way omg
No I mean, if you design a new game today you would never use 2.5 rules. 3rd edition rules are just as deep, and if you don't care to learn all the underlying details, you can do well with the standard rule of "higher numbers are better". It makes the game more accessible without dumbing it down, which is important in game design.
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Anyway this was a hilarious quote I got from a friend:
me 4:30 PM
OH MY GODDDD BALDUR'S GATE REMAKE
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licensed by EA
directed by Michael Bay
Justin Bieber voice acting the main character
Pauly Shore voice acting everyone else |
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| Bokchoy March 16 2012 05:40. Posts 55 | Profile # |
i understand your point and i am agains it , no they should not reduce the intelligence&knowlege needed to play BG
and imo the higher = the lamer |
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| King.Crimson Romania. March 16 2012 05:45. Posts 446 | Profile # |
So far, the perfect announcement in my eyes. They keep the things that made the series so great, including the 2nd edition ruleset, but improve upon the outdated things (graphics), add new content, and most likely integrate all the great things that the mods bring in BGT, all wrapped up in one nice little package :D
I'm curious if they will also bring in the old voice actors to perform new lines of dialogue, probably not though since it's quite expensive. |
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| Telcontar United Kingdom. March 16 2012 05:47. Posts 15880 | Profile # |
| So it'll be a remake of sorts with some new content as well? Not bad. I still have the original installed, but I might buy this depending on what kind of improvements they've made and how long the new content is. |
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| Malkavian183 Turkey. March 16 2012 05:54. Posts 227 | Profile # |
I am really happy that they are keeping the 2.5 rules! Always were the best rules for table top gaming too.
Not really excited but I will sure to get this. |
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| BeMannerDuPenner Germany. March 16 2012 05:55. Posts 5171 | Profile Blog # |
On March 16 2012 04:44 Rayeth wrote:
This has to just be BG1. Otherwise they would be calling it a collection or something.
Plus, IMO BG2 is the better game (and more well liked) of the two anyhow, so I think they would put that out there if it was included. However, making BG1 into a modern setting means putting out BG2 should follow soon after.
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Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition™ and Baldur’s Gate II: Enhanced Edition™ will feature a re-forged version of the Infinity Engine with a variety of modern improvements.
http://www.baldursgate.com/news/2012/03/15/announcing-baldurs-gate-enhanced-edition/ |
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| peeeky Canada. March 16 2012 05:55. Posts 631 | Profile # |
| Always wanted to try this game out and happy that I now have the chance to do so! |
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