[Patch 1.0.0.135: Fiora] General Discussion - Page 18

On March 01 2012 10:01 -Zoda- wrote:

You obviously never read Smash's calculations.

No I can't say that I have... Could you maybe point me to them?

Hidden_MotiveS Canada. March 01 2012 10:54. Posts 2019

Just thinking, if Naut's shield adds 300 damage in 1.01 seconds with a recurve bow, like TL mathcrafted before, then it's essentially an attack damage steroid with .8AP damage scaling (for however long that shield holds). Pretty strong.

Shiv. March 01 2012 11:05. Posts 1902

On March 01 2012 10:08 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Dyrus watches spamhappy poppy, now I'm seeing a ton of poppy top on streams. Who set the trend, dyrus or spamhappy?

Dyrus took Zekent's guide and adapted.

currently rooting for myself.

gtrsrs United States. March 01 2012 11:18. Posts 4406

Soniv I read your post in the qq thread but I'm not qqing ATM so I didn't want to respond there

I usually start slumping when I go out of my comfort zone and am forced to do solo mid or ad or something. Then I tilt, feed, and carry it to the next game. After a while I get to the point of "well I've lost so many in a row, I'm bound to get carried soon' and I play shut like ap yi or jungle irelia or w/e. Don't do that. It never works. Sometimes you just have Terrible luck - best thing to do is to go and play as an old favorite - for me udyr or skarner - and just clean house with them. For me it's going /ignore all and making sure I get every single buff when it spawns. Get back in rhythm and you can take your streak the other direction. After I basically had 14 straight games with a d/c (I'm not even exaggerating ) I just buckled down with skarner and went from 1350 back to 1650 pretty much without a hitch.

You do da aps right? I'm down to duo with you if you'd like

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0123456789 United States. March 01 2012 11:19. Posts 1847

Pros don't tilt. They carry despite their emotional state, with all roles.

Ryuu314 United States. March 01 2012 11:24. Posts 5311

On March 01 2012 11:05 Shiv. wrote:

Dyrus took Zekent's guide and adapted.

heyyy that zekent guy's a friend of a friend irl lolol

Cogito ergo doleo

gtrsrs United States. March 01 2012 11:25. Posts 4406

that's just blatantly not true though
I've seen plenty of great players just fall apart with rage or confusion
To say that anyone can completely transcend the emotional black hole that is solo queue is just silly

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Hidden_MotiveS Canada. March 01 2012 11:28. Posts 2019

On March 01 2012 11:19 0123456789 wrote:
Pros don't tilt. They carry despite their emotional state, with all roles.

sarcasm?

Dyrus has been on an AP yi streak since last night he lost some game.

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Kaneh Canada. March 01 2012 11:32. Posts 315

On March 01 2012 10:15 Juddas wrote:

No I can't say that I have... Could you maybe point me to them?

basically, AD offense masteries are too strong, AP offense is good, but only for lategame (blast and archmage are the best scaling talents, while mental force is among the worst)

utility is complete ass.

defense is okay, but it's more efficient gold-wise to take offense masteries and build defense than to take defense masteries and build offense.

you have it completely backwards with the "falling off" because most of the masteries in offense and defense scale with your items/stats. and building defense (at least stacking EHP) on a carry is stupid for obvious reasons.

and even you stated that it's better in lane.

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wei2coolman United States. March 01 2012 11:36. Posts 9678

On March 01 2012 07:18 Shikyo wrote:
Hmm after seeing junglers be at like 30-60 minion kills every single game at 15min and when im at like 130 usually i think that i should start jungling instead of solo top or AD carry in solo queue because apparently no one has any idea how to jungle properly

I'm guessing you do the SV ganking tax? Everytime you gank, you tax them by taking their cs? :D

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FoeHamr United States. March 01 2012 11:40. Posts 465

The new champ is underwhelming. It might just be me, but it doesn't seem like she can really do a whole lot of damage. I have been trying to jungle with her, and her early game seems descent but doesnt scale well into the late game well. Am I just doing something wrong or is this a common problem?

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Shikyo Finland. March 01 2012 11:45. Posts 20124

On March 01 2012 11:36 wei2coolman wrote:

I'm guessing you do the SV ganking tax? Everytime you gank, you tax them by taking their cs? :D

Nah I don't gank I just take cs

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iCanada Canada. March 01 2012 11:52. Posts 2860

On March 01 2012 11:40 FoeHamr wrote:
The new champ is underwhelming. It might just be me, but it doesn't seem like she can really do a whole lot of damage. I have been trying to jungle with her, and her early game seems descent but doesnt scale well into the late game well. Am I just doing something wrong or is this a common problem?

You just building her wrong or something.

She scales similarly to a Master Yi, if not even harder imo. Her autos deal tons of damage regardless of items, but you can simply go straight AD on her because her E gives you a ridiculous +120% attack speed and also resets your auto attack timer.

That, and her ultimate has an absurdly high AD scaling... things just die.

But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake

Juddas March 01 2012 11:52. Posts 616

hmm... I am sufficiently curious now... I thought that Utility is best because it isn't itemized nearly as much as the offensive tree, and in all my games I have just always felt like my utility was helping me substantially more, especially when it comes to mana regen, summoner CD, CDR, Buff duration, etc.

is offensive really better?
hmm... Will have to give a try now. Thanks for responding with so much detail!

Forget what I said earlier, just messed around a bit with masteries and now see the value of offensive. They are just all really good imo

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Two_DoWn United States. March 01 2012 11:57. Posts 7269

On March 01 2012 11:52 Juddas wrote:
hmm... I am sufficiently curious now... I thought that Utility is best because it isn't itemized nearly as much as the offensive tree, and in all my games I have just always felt like my utility was helping me substantially more, especially when it comes to mana regen, summoner CD, CDR, Buff duration, etc.

is offensive really better?
hmm... Will have to give a try now. Thanks for responding with so much detail!

Overall (IE all mastery points in a given tree) it goes:

O>D>>>>>>U

Cutting useless ones out into a 21 point tree you get:

O=D>>>>U.

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Praetorial United States. March 01 2012 11:58. Posts 3631

Depends on Champion. For Fiora, yes.

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Mogwai United States. March 01 2012 12:01. Posts 8012

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Juddas March 01 2012 12:03. Posts 616

On March 01 2012 11:57 Two_DoWn wrote:

Overall (IE all mastery points in a given tree) it goes:

O>D>>>>>>U

Cutting useless ones out into a 21 point tree you get:

O=D>>>>U.

Well then I have a couple of other questions :D

If I were to pick Veigar for instance, would 20/0/10 be acceptable? With Buff Duration?

And if i were to pick a melee AD, 21/9/0 or 9/21/0?

Thanks!

But really, why is Utility so bad? Besides the useless ones ofc

Two_DoWn United States. March 01 2012 12:04. Posts 7269

On March 01 2012 12:01 Mogwai wrote:
new post on teh blawg: http://mogwaismusings.wordpress.com/

I think you need to give some examples of crutches in lol.

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Two_DoWn United States. March 01 2012 12:06. Posts 7269

On March 01 2012 12:03 Juddas wrote: