| Chrono. United Kingdom. February 29 2012 21:41. Posts 20 | Profile # |
Hey guys,
So 2 weeks ago I set myself a goal. By May I want to be decent enough to play people at a master's level and get even a little bit noticed at the upcoming iSeries in May in England.
So I started off in gold and from playing minimum of 4 hours a day I can see myself improving quite a lot... but the realism of me getting to masters seems so far, I'm currently Plat rank 18 and I keep peaking up and down the high plat ladder.
I'm putting the commitment in, but I'm worried that isn't enough just laddering as well as watching streams at 4am as I go off to bed after laddering.
I have read guides all over TL about general ways to improve but is it just simply experience and just keep laddering or do I actually need a mentor to take me under the wing which I'm not really wanting to pay for to be honest :/ (may seem cheap but meh)
So what's the realism of a Plat player going from here to masters and what do you think would be the best way to do so?
Here is a few replays of me just for a clear example incase someone has the effort to help a fellow zerg out.
Thankyou in advance!! It's all very much appreciated I assure you 
Elir
<3
ZvP: http://drop.sc/123596
ZvZ: http://drop.sc/123597 |
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| Tobberoth Sweden. February 29 2012 21:45. Posts 4511 | Profile # |
| Going from plat to masters is no problem. Doing it until may? Yeah, that might be hard unless you put in a lot of time effectively. |
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| thezanursic Slovenia. February 29 2012 21:54. Posts 2806 | Profile Blog # |
Okay if you score 3 you have a chance to get to High masters until may.
Do you have a job?
Do you have a girlfriend?
Are you willing to dedicate 16 hours of your day to playing this game for the next 2 months?
No 1 point
No 1 point
Yes 1 point
One question. Are you actually serious about this?
and I hope you have some prior RTS experience.Last edit: 2012-02-29 22:01:44 |
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| fapy Australia. February 29 2012 21:56. Posts 40 | Profile # |
| Yes, it's possible. I wen't from gold > high diamond in 4 months, and i didn't play for the majority of one of the months. |
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| SeventhPride February 29 2012 21:57. Posts 658 | Profile # |
| There is a big skill gap difference between plat and diamond though,its possible, but you will most likely lose a lot first before you get used to the macro and micro abilities of the players above platinum. I would say it would take you about a long time unless you really dedicate time to playing. I think the most important thing for zergs is to study the timings of other race and spreading creep while hitting the queen injects right on the spot. |
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| Chrono. United Kingdom. February 29 2012 22:05. Posts 20 | Profile # |
I'm a University Student but I barely do 3 days at University, I have a part time job no more than 12 hours a week. I have a girlfriend I barely see at the moment. I'm gaming normally from the moment I wake up to when I fall asleep. Watching Live streams or playing League of Legends or Starcraft, more on starcraft.... I'm very serious about this and I'm very dedicated but I need to know how realistic it is to get my goal and get a name for myself at iSeries a major tournament in England without really paying for mentors...
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| SeventhPride February 29 2012 22:06. Posts 658 | Profile # |
| Its possible if you are as you say dedicated. I personally recommend day 9 videos. He is excellent, got me to masters just by learning from him. And he does it for free |
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| thezanursic Slovenia. February 29 2012 22:09. Posts 2806 | Profile Blog # |
On February 29 2012 22:05 Chrono. wrote:
I'm a University Student but I barely do 3 days at University, I have a part time job no more than 12 hours a week. I have a girlfriend I barely see at the moment. I'm gaming normally from the moment I wake up to when I fall asleep. Watching Live streams or playing League of Legends or Starcraft, more on starcraft.... I'm very serious about this and I'm very dedicated but I need to know how realistic it is to get my goal and get a name for myself at iSeries a major tournament in England without really paying for mentors...
Is it realistic? I do not know your living conditions so I cant say, but I can tell you that if done right yes you can be in High masters until May. The first thing you would have to do is drop LoL for the time being and start playing instead of talking on the forums. If you are serious about it close the browser now and start laddering and learn from your replays.Last edit: 2012-02-29 22:12:33 |
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| thezanursic Slovenia. February 29 2012 22:11. Posts 2806 | Profile Blog # |
On February 29 2012 22:06 SeventhPride wrote:
Its possible if you are as you say dedicated. I personally recommend day 9 videos. He is excellent, got me to masters just by learning from him. And he does it for free
Yeah, but watching Day 9 while it helps you improve its to slow if you want to be in High masters until May and really I dont think day 9 can get you to masters I think that was your own doing dont credit day 9 all to much. Day 9 is more of a motivational speaker to get you to improve if you dont have the motivation if this guy has it watching day 9 would be nothing, but waist of time. |
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| fapy Australia. February 29 2012 22:14. Posts 40 | Profile # |
| I personally find CombatEx's videos alot better then day9's for improving quickly. He dedicates his stuff more towards higher level players, and explains alot very quickly. If you're able to play 10 hours/day then you should easily get masters as long as you don't get distracted. |
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| Jombozeus China. February 29 2012 22:15. Posts 1000 | Profile Blog # |
For an ex-warcraft 3 or ex-BW semipro/pro, it would take him 3 months to reach high masters if he devotes 3-5 hours a day. This is assuming that he starts at diamond level. To become noticed, it might take him three times that effort in terms of time spent.
If you play 4 hours a day on ladder, I would say that by the start of May you will be on the right track to break masters, and by the end of May you will definitely be in masters. Lets put it this way tho:
The learning curve and time spent to go from low master to high masters is roughly equivalent to going from bronze to diamond three times over.
Lots of arbitrary numbers, but do the math.Last edit: 2012-02-29 22:18:13 |
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| KAmaKAsa Finland. February 29 2012 22:17. Posts 209 | Profile # |
On February 29 2012 22:14 fapy wrote:
I personally find CombatEx's videos alot better then day9's for improving quickly. He dedicates his stuff more towards higher level players, and explains alot very quickly. If you're able to play 10 hours/day then you should easily get masters as long as you don't get distracted.
CombatEX? high level? what am i reading |
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| Chrono. United Kingdom. February 29 2012 22:18. Posts 20 | Profile # |
On February 29 2012 22:15 Jombozeus wrote:
For an ex-warcraft 3 or ex-BW semipro/pro, it would take him 3 months to reach high masters if he devotes 3-5 hours a day. This is assuming that he starts at diamond level. To become noticed, it might take him three times that effort in terms of time spent.
Do the math.
So really, the chances are slim to none, I'm by no means an idiot when it comes to SC2 but my experience is about a year and if you see from the replay you can see what skill level I am in! |
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| Champ121 United Kingdom. February 29 2012 22:18. Posts 6 | Profile # |
I think the greatest way to accelerate your learning is to get some practice buddies and use voice communication. The amount you can learn from each other is far more than you can learn on your own in the same time frame. There's no point practising the wrong things over and over again on ladder.
To get masters you don't need korean level mechanics, you need to know the game very well. |
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| fapy Australia. February 29 2012 22:19. Posts 40 | Profile # |
On February 29 2012 22:17 KAmaKAsa wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 22:14 fapy wrote:
I personally find CombatEx's videos alot better then day9's for improving quickly. He dedicates his stuff more towards higher level players, and explains alot very quickly. If you're able to play 10 hours/day then you should easily get masters as long as you don't get distracted.
CombatEX? high level? what am i reading
Grandmaster is low level now? I'm not even going to bother with this. |
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| Jombozeus China. February 29 2012 22:26. Posts 1000 | Profile Blog # |
On February 29 2012 22:18 Chrono. wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 22:15 Jombozeus wrote:
For an ex-warcraft 3 or ex-BW semipro/pro, it would take him 3 months to reach high masters if he devotes 3-5 hours a day. This is assuming that he starts at diamond level. To become noticed, it might take him three times that effort in terms of time spent.
Do the math.
So really, the chances are slim to none, I'm by no means an idiot when it comes to SC2 but my experience is about a year and if you see from the replay you can see what skill level I am in!
Lets go by me:
I had about 2 years of very casual RTS experience before Starcraft, and I was placed in silver in beta. From diamond to masters took me about 4 months, and from low masters to where I am now took me about 6 months, and I am sitting at mid-high masters, which is probably mid-masters EU. I played about 3 hours a day on average?
From mid-master to high-master will probably be another 4 months or so for me.
Say thats a year, and say you are twice as smart as I am and that extra time you spend translates to an exponential increase, so 2^2 = 4 times less time it will take you to reach high-masters. You are still looking at 3 months.Last edit: 2012-02-29 22:29:28 |
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| jestlolk February 29 2012 22:28. Posts 52 | Profile # |
Quality > Quantity when it comes to improving. Analyze each of your games individually. You do not want to play Starcraft for more than 8 hours in a day. That amount of games is detrimental to most players, even moreso to those who aren't conditioned to play that much. Analyze replays because odds are if you're in platinum you have very little knowledge of what is going on with the other player during the game.
It would be very hard to make it to your goal, because the way your opponents play will change a lot as you get higher. I'm just getting to mid-masters and I'm now getting fleeced by people who can multitask competently.
Good luck. |
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| fapy Australia. February 29 2012 22:29. Posts 40 | Profile # |
On February 29 2012 22:26 Jombozeus wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 22:18 Chrono. wrote:
On February 29 2012 22:15 Jombozeus wrote:
For an ex-warcraft 3 or ex-BW semipro/pro, it would take him 3 months to reach high masters if he devotes 3-5 hours a day. This is assuming that he starts at diamond level. To become noticed, it might take him three times that effort in terms of time spent.
Do the math.
So really, the chances are slim to none, I'm by no means an idiot when it comes to SC2 but my experience is about a year and if you see from the replay you can see what skill level I am in!
Lets go by me: I had about 2 years of very casual RTS experience before Starcraft, and I was placed in silver in beta. From diamond to masters took me about 4 months, and from low masters to where I am now took me about 6 months, and I am sitting at mid-high masters, which is probably mid-masters EU. I played about 3 hours a day on average? From mid-master to high-master will probably be another 4 months or so for me. Say thats a year, and say you are twice as smart as I am and that translates to an exponential increase, so 2^2 = 4 times less time it will take you to reach high-masters. You are still looking at 3 months.
0 RTS experience for me, placed into gold 4 months ago. Gold > diamond took me 3 months of playing 1 or 2 games a day, I should be getting masters reletivily soon. |
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| Jombozeus China. February 29 2012 22:31. Posts 1000 | Profile Blog # |
On February 29 2012 22:29 fapy wrote:
Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 22:26 Jombozeus wrote:
On February 29 2012 22:18 Chrono. wrote:
On February 29 2012 22:15 Jombozeus wrote:
For an ex-warcraft 3 or ex-BW semipro/pro, it would take him 3 months to reach high masters if he devotes 3-5 hours a day. This is assuming that he starts at diamond level. To become noticed, it might take him three times that effort in terms of time spent.
Do the math.
So really, the chances are slim to none, I'm by no means an idiot when it comes to SC2 but my experience is about a year and if you see from the replay you can see what skill level I am in!
Lets go by me: I had about 2 years of very casual RTS experience before Starcraft, and I was placed in silver in beta. From diamond to masters took me about 4 months, and from low masters to where I am now took me about 6 months, and I am sitting at mid-high masters, which is probably mid-masters EU. I played about 3 hours a day on average? From mid-master to high-master will probably be another 4 months or so for me. Say thats a year, and say you are twice as smart as I am and that translates to an exponential increase, so 2^2 = 4 times less time it will take you to reach high-masters. You are still looking at 3 months.
0 RTS experience for me, placed into gold 4 months ago. Gold > diamond took me 3 months of playing 1 or 2 games a day, I should be getting masters reletivily soon.
I obviously didn't play 3 hours a day back when I was diamond-masters. I played around the same as you. let me clarify, I play about 3 hours a day on average nowadays.Last edit: 2012-02-29 22:32:29 |
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| Barty France. February 29 2012 22:39. Posts 64 | Profile # |
High masters? Really?
Okay, i guess this is NA servers
edit: if not, you've gotta be training 24/24 or be really talentedLast edit: 2012-02-29 22:39:56 |
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