 Seraphone United Kingdom. March 07 2012 02:27. Posts 1219 | Profile # |
| So basically everyone beat everyone in PvP (as expected) but MC was able to thump Nerchio pretty hard in the one skill based match he played and was lucky that he rolled heads a few more times than anyone else in his group to ensure he got 1st and not 2nd or 3rd. |
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| Heavenly March 07 2012 02:27. Posts 2172 | Profile # |
On March 07 2012 02:24 msjakofsky wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 02:19 Heavenly wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:17 msjakofsky wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:11 Heavenly wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:07 msjakofsky wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:01 Heavenly wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:00 msjakofsky wrote:
Chris Loranger @LorangerChris
everyon1 watch the esl stream and seriously look at the player cam of elfi, look at the lightning speed of his hands, and him beat MC. pvp..
didn't elfi destroy huk with those lightning speed hands? isn't it ironic
Not at all, he's mocking PvP, why would it be ironic that he lost in a matchup he thinks is stupid?
lol dude are you for real? he's mocking elfi and trying to belittle elfi's accomplishment as a good pvp player. what on earth justifies such bitter tweets while someone else is playing a really hard game? he isn't funny and isn't even right.
Are you for real? Look at the last sentence: "pvp.." As in, he thinks it's a joke that someone as slow as elfi can beat someone like MC. Yes, he is mocking elfi, but it's not ironic because he's mocking the ridiculousness of PvP. He is superior in the other matchups because he is the superior player mechanically, but overall mechanics are not necessarily that important in PvP.
yeah you're right it's really classy to mock someone who kicked you're ass instead of recognizing that it's not all mechanics and elfi's really good at mindgames and game sense. people like you give shit to goody too... i really hope elfi continues to beat the shit out of all your favorite protosses. yeah he's not that awesome at other matchups but his pvp is really world class, deal with it
What are you even ranting about lmao. "Deal with it" as if I care, I was correcting you about what Huk's intentions were with his statement. He beat my favorite player but MC is still first in the group, I couldn't care less.
and what the hell do you know about huk's intentions? it seems quite obvious that he is just bitter, and obviously you like huk better than elfi so you make an excuse for him. or yeah you're right huk is just mocking the matchup which happens to be his worst, in which elfi beat his ass, and coincidentally he mocks elfi a little bit either, but this is all nice and good and justified because you like huk.
Sounds like you just like elfi lmao? What are you even talking about, when did I say Huk's not bitter? I was stating that it's not ironic that he mocked the matchup just because he lost to the person, because that's not the definition of ironic at all. I couldn't care less about elfi or Huk.Last edit: 2012-03-07 02:28:18 |
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| gullberg Sweden. March 07 2012 02:28. Posts 1266 | Profile Blog # |
On March 07 2012 02:27 StarVe wrote:
I hope elfi meets JYP in the RO16, he can totally beat him.
I want this kid to win a tournament playing nothing but PvP |
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| cyclone4tw Russian Federation. March 07 2012 02:28. Posts 31 | Profile # |
On March 07 2012 02:24 chosenkerrigan wrote:
It just makes me sad when my favorite player gets beaten/knocked out in pvp by a overall lesser skilled player. It's just sad.
So good to see MC made through today.
Because SC2 should be a game where favorites win 100% of their games vs less skilled players, right?
Elfi was the better player today, deal with it. |
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| Wroshe Netherlands. March 07 2012 02:28. Posts 1019 | Profile # |
On March 07 2012 02:27 Lunares wrote:
Isn't Nerchio also 3-2? So there are four players at 3-2? What is the tiebreak in that situation?
3 players at 3-2.
Gamescore > Head to Head.
Nerchio's game score is equal with HasuObs but he lost the Head to Head.Last edit: 2012-03-07 02:28:56 |
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| aderum Sweden. March 07 2012 02:28. Posts 1358 | Profile Blog # |
On March 07 2012 02:20 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80
Seems to be true for Protoss and to some extent Terran (Goody, Sjow), we have yet to see a Zerg with really low APM and bad mechanics have any degree of success...
Low APM has nothing to do with bad mechanics.
And PvP is usaly one base or 2 with very few workers so the APM really isnt needed unless there is a fight.
Stop it with the "hidden" zerg is harder- whine. |
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| sitromit March 07 2012 02:29. Posts 5882 | Profile # |
On March 07 2012 02:22 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 02:20 sitromit wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80
Seems to be true for Protoss and to some extent Terran (Goody, Sjow), we have yet to see a Zerg with really low APM and bad mechanics have any degree of success...
I'm not sure but doesn't Violet have really low apm? I remember him saying that in an interview.
Compared to a Zerg like DRG, yes, he's slow, but so is Idra. It's not on the same level as Elfi or Goody though. |
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| Taktik Poland. March 07 2012 02:29. Posts 388 | Profile # |
| Nerchio won 2-0 against Grubby which changes nothing. So sad that Nerchio had to play all his group games with his worst MU ;( And look at Sockes situation ;/ I think I like 4 player groups more. |
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| zefreak United States. March 07 2012 02:29. Posts 2614 | Profile Blog # |
On March 07 2012 02:26 tetracycloide wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 02:24 chosenkerrigan wrote:
It just makes me sad when my favorite player gets beaten/knocked out in pvp by a overall lesser skilled player. It's just sad.
So good to see MC made through today.
How boring would this game be to watch if beating someone 'more skilled' was impossible though? Even the best of the best only have ~70% win rates and that's a very good thing.
Not boring at all, it would make the inevitable upset that much more meaningful. When Flash lost his 14-0 winning streak it was big. Foreigner upsets in PvP are so common its almost standard. |
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| illsick United States. March 07 2012 02:30. Posts 1402 | Profile # |
On March 07 2012 02:24 msjakofsky wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 02:19 Heavenly wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:17 msjakofsky wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:11 Heavenly wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:07 msjakofsky wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:01 Heavenly wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:00 msjakofsky wrote:
Chris Loranger @LorangerChris
everyon1 watch the esl stream and seriously look at the player cam of elfi, look at the lightning speed of his hands, and him beat MC. pvp..
didn't elfi destroy huk with those lightning speed hands? isn't it ironic
Not at all, he's mocking PvP, why would it be ironic that he lost in a matchup he thinks is stupid?
lol dude are you for real? he's mocking elfi and trying to belittle elfi's accomplishment as a good pvp player. what on earth justifies such bitter tweets while someone else is playing a really hard game? he isn't funny and isn't even right.
Are you for real? Look at the last sentence: "pvp.." As in, he thinks it's a joke that someone as slow as elfi can beat someone like MC. Yes, he is mocking elfi, but it's not ironic because he's mocking the ridiculousness of PvP. He is superior in the other matchups because he is the superior player mechanically, but overall mechanics are not necessarily that important in PvP.
yeah you're right it's really classy to mock someone who kicked you're ass instead of recognizing that it's not all mechanics and elfi's really good at mindgames and game sense. people like you give shit to goody too... i really hope elfi continues to beat the shit out of all your favorite protosses. yeah he's not that awesome at other matchups but his pvp is really world class, deal with it
What are you even ranting about lmao. "Deal with it" as if I care, I was correcting you about what Huk's intentions were with his statement. He beat my favorite player but MC is still first in the group, I couldn't care less.
and what the hell do you know about huk's intentions? it seems quite obvious that he is just bitter, and obviously you like huk better than elfi so you make an excuse for him. or yeah you're right huk is just mocking the matchup which happens to be his worst, in which elfi beat his ass, and coincidentally he mocks elfi a little bit either, but this is all nice and good and justified because you like huk.
happens to be his worst? He did beat a bunch of protoss in at MLG Arena. People said that HuK was lucky to have such an easy bracket. He beat minigun, socke, and Oz. At MLG Orlando, he was stuck in the Protoss group which he came out in first (and eventually won that tournament). |
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| tetracycloide March 07 2012 02:30. Posts 295 | Profile # |
On March 07 2012 02:26 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 02:19 gullberg wrote:Elfi, he somehow wins. Guess you don't need APM 
hes using a 20dollar microsoft keyboard that doesnt have nkey rollover so yeah.
Is nkey really important for SC2? I thought nkey was important for wasd movement games but in SC2 you can really only issue one command at once which is while tactile keyboards are preferred. |
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| Venomsflame United States. March 07 2012 02:30. Posts 509 | Profile # |
If Nerchio Elfi and HasuObs all are 6-5, who makes it through?
Nerchio beat Elfi lost to Hasu.
Hasu beat Elfi and Nerchio
Elfi lost to both.
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| Seraphone United Kingdom. March 07 2012 02:30. Posts 1219 | Profile # |
On March 07 2012 02:26 tetracycloide wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 02:24 chosenkerrigan wrote:
It just makes me sad when my favorite player gets beaten/knocked out in pvp by a overall lesser skilled player. It's just sad.
So good to see MC made through today.
How boring would this game be to watch if beating someone 'more skilled' was impossible though? Even the best of the best only have ~70% win rates and that's a very good thing.
No one wants to watch a game where skill isn't rewarded.
Upsets are fine if they're skill based and deserved.
PvP is just luck. Look at the group, basically everyone won 2 PvP's and lost 2 PvP's except Grubby who won 1 and Elfi who won three. Elfi got 2-0d by Hasu who got 2-0'd by MC and White Ra but White Ra who beat both MC and Hasu lost to Grubby who lost to everyone else.
That's not fun. It's random and shit. |
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| Noocta France. March 07 2012 02:30. Posts 8638 | Profile # |
On March 07 2012 02:28 gullberg wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 02:27 StarVe wrote:
I hope elfi meets JYP in the RO16, he can totally beat him.
I want this kid to win a tournament playing nothing but PvP
Sadly, the day of a tournament where someone can go to the finals playing only one match up are gone.
Atleast, Gom made it so. 8D |
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| chosenkerrigan China. March 07 2012 02:31. Posts 592 | Profile # |
On March 07 2012 02:28 cyclone4tw wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 02:24 chosenkerrigan wrote:
It just makes me sad when my favorite player gets beaten/knocked out in pvp by a overall lesser skilled player. It's just sad.
So good to see MC made through today.
Because SC2 should be a game where favorites win 100% of their games vs less skilled players, right? Elfi was the better player today, deal with it.
I was just talking about pvp, and elfi was not the better player today. MC's 1st in group and elfi's 2nd. Don't be so sensitive. |
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| Champloo Germany. March 07 2012 02:31. Posts 1631 | Profile # |
| I love those glory hunters being butthurt cause their favorite koreans lost to foreigners. |
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| Taktik Poland. March 07 2012 02:32. Posts 388 | Profile # |
3 players at 3-2.
Gamescore > Head to Head.
Nerchio's game score is equal with HasuObs but he lost the Head to Head.
Y but he won against Elfi who is also 3-2. I think they count all games (elfi 8-6 vs nerchios 6-5) ? |
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| AlternativeEgo Sweden. March 07 2012 02:32. Posts 7890 | Profile # |
Got 5/6 of my picks to go through. Hasu instead of Nerchio was a pleasant surprise and Socke did put up a really good fight.  |
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| zefreak United States. March 07 2012 02:32. Posts 2614 | Profile Blog # |
On March 07 2012 02:31 Champloo wrote:
I love those glory hunters being butthurt cause their favorite koreans lost to foreigners.
What the hell is a glory hunter |
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| KalWarkov Germany. March 07 2012 02:32. Posts 2809 | Profile Blog # |
that hate from idra and huk on elfi @ twitter...
at least i have something to laugh about when idra loses tomorrow and keeps blaming the "terrible conditions" on it... and huk talking about pvp - HuK, who plays PvP like a fusion of InCa and BitbyBit, mixing 4 gate with dts and flipping the coin. |
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