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| MrMongo Germany. March 21 2012 00:13. Posts 63 | Profile # |
The one who is majorly condescending is you, my friend. If you are "too intelligent to be fooled by such", then you should also be intelligent enough to see when to let it go.
People support him, because THEY see a cause in it, they see that it's nice to help him fulfill his dreams and maybe end it on a nicer note then going back after 7 months when he had 12 planned and looked forward to it. We have all seen that you don't agree with this. You have stated your reasons and that should be enough, let it go and don't trash this thread.
I don't think that it's easy for him to ask us to help him, but he provides you with something in return.
He doesn't just ask for your money. You get entertainment for it. No different from other events that you find here, which also bring money into different pockets. It is also a form of support for esports.
See great matches -> send some money
Want to support the cause -> send some money
Just cheap or can't afford -> don't send money
Don't like what this stands for -> voice your opinion and then try to be polite and don't ruin the day of ppl who like this idea.
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| WeavingHarp9 Sweden. March 21 2012 00:52. Posts 22 | Profile # |
I like this idea and I'm def. supporting it but for you out there that says that its "the right thing to do" to give him money should reconsider. there's tons of other stuff out there that are "better" if you want to do the so called right thing.
But nonetheless, great idea, great event, def gonna give you a few bucks! )) |
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| spancho United States. March 21 2012 00:53. Posts 159 | Profile # |
| I support this in no uncertain terms. As a roboticist training specifically in exoskeleton and prothetic programming, I hope that one day something I contribute will give people like you who have lost so much regain some measure of independence. In the mean time hell ya I'll donate. Last edit: 2012-03-21 00:54:06 |
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| Marou Korea (South). March 21 2012 01:29. Posts 999 | Profile Blog # |
YES. YES. YES and hundred time yes. What you are doing here is of the utmost important for esports. I can't believe somebody like you actually exists and has been on such a past for the path month with so few coverage.
I really hope be able to raise enough money, and i truly hope to see you one day on stage competing at a very high level. This is what esports needs, far more than money.Last edit: 2012-03-21 01:30:29 |
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| looknohands119 United States. March 21 2012 04:00. Posts 531 | Profile # | |
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| FliedLice Germany. March 21 2012 04:13. Posts 6479 | Profile Blog # |
On March 20 2012 05:21 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 04:36 Uraeus wrote:+ Show Spoiler [ Encouraging to NOT donate] +
On March 20 2012 03:36 Ventor wrote:
I don't really agree with this fund raiser. It's great that you're trying to do what makes you happy but I don't see why you're asking people for money to do it. A lot of people are put into situations in their life where money becomes an issue and they can't get what they want at the moment and have to work for it. This just seems counter intuitive to that and you're skipping the 'working hard' bit.
The fact that this is only happening because he is disabled is an INSULT if anything.
"Hey, you're not like us! So you're going to get special treatment!" You're ignoring the fact that is a regular person. If you truly thought of physically disabled people as equals you would have the same attitude as me, but you don't, because you put them in a different category from your own and feel the need to donate and defend them.
Seriously, what's wrong with you, guys??? Do you REALLY feel the need to shit on every guy's parade? Is Matt being deceptive about his goals or where the money will go? NO Is he somehow draining money from more consensual charities? NO Could he stay at home watching Day[9] and GSL all day long feeling sorry for himself? Absolutely! But he's not. He has decided to take the matter into his own hands (pun intended. Or is it pushing it too far?) and not let his disability get in the way of his dream. This at least deserves respect, if not sympathy. And he is actually giving back to the community, so I don't see anything wrong with his initiative. And yes, this can probably inspire other disabled people and make them think "I can do it!" (whatever it is). I am not going to give because I pity him, even though I am happy I am not in his situation. I am going to support him with money because he is showing immense willpower and determination, and this is something I really admire. I do admire people who will struggle to make the most of their situation and help themselves, instead of wallowing in self pity. It is everyone's right to not sympathize and all, but arguing that he is actually scamming us is pretty shameful. If you think you are somehow challenged and deserve money to get a "vacation" in Korea, well, go ahead! Set a goal, plan your trip, make us dream with you! But I guess pepole calling him out are just bitter and jealous because they lack the willpower to do it. Brb, going to donate via paypal.
^ TL;DR: Stop bitching in jealousy you idiots. Just cause this guy has power and will you don't have to try to shit all over him you covetous bastards
Nobody is shitting over or insulting anyone here apart from you.Last edit: 2012-03-21 04:13:27 |
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| Oestra United States. March 21 2012 04:27. Posts 2 | Profile # |
Wow i didn't even read all of it...about half way through I was like "how to i help!"
I will definately be watching this... and hopefully donateing...good luck man, hope you make your goal: ) |
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| Arcanefrost Belgium. March 21 2012 04:37. Posts 1119 | Profile Blog # |
Wow so awesome, the mvp picture is pure epicness.
Quick questions: What league are you, and how do you use keyboard/mice? |
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| Gatsbizzle United States. March 21 2012 04:44. Posts 124 | Profile # |
| As one Carl to another, I wish you the best of luck, Matthew. |
| | I joined TeamLiquid for TSL2 but I stayed for Nada's Body. |
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| budar March 21 2012 05:32. Posts 142 | Profile # |
| Hey, can you please post the paypal contact? I'd prefer that to the site method. |
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| mtmf Brazil. March 21 2012 05:59. Posts 417 | Profile Blog # |
I just started watching and couldn't find the bracket for the main tournament, only the open brackets.
Is there a main bracket somewhere? |
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| Cyberonic Germany. March 21 2012 06:00. Posts 62 | Profile Blog # |
| Keep it up Matthew! I look up to your positive attitude. You are glowing from energy, which is astonishing considering the circumstances. Thanks for keep showing that despite disabilities you can go for your dreams if you really want to. I hope my donation helps you a little on the way. |
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| vinsang1000 Belgium. March 21 2012 06:06. Posts 256 | Profile # |
Hi, I try my best to give you 20$ on the website mentionned but my VISA keeps being rejected my a wrong adress  DO you have a Paypal accout ? |
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| shinyA China. March 21 2012 06:19. Posts 433 | Profile # |
- You like StarCraft
- You can't afford to go to another country for your hobby
- You want people to pay for it
- You're disabled
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Everyone has problems and struggles, just because someone is handicapped doesn't make their problem any more important than the many problems others have. You think everyone can just up and move to Korea for a year? Of course not, people have responsiblities and obligations and can't just up and go travel for a year - not to mention the cost it would take for an average person.
I donate to charities every year, give money to the poor, and do volunteer work because there are people less fortunate than me and are living without the basic things needed to survive. I don't feel comfortable giving someone money just for their hobby - I don't see the point. Me giving you money for you to stay in Korea because you like StarCraft doesn't help anyone, it doesn't even help you beyond the few months of entertainment that you will get. You aren't trying to use the money to help people or give back, you're literally just asking for money because you wanna hang out with progamers in Korea. This seems like a homeless person asking for money outside of a liquir store, I'm obviously not going to give him money to buy beer because that's not helping him. If I'm going to give money to someone it's going to be because they need it or if it will help them, not because they simply want it.
I don't understand the whole "he's not letting his disablity get in the way of his dreams". What does his disablity have to do with it? What's the difference in him or someone else asking a community to fund his trip to Korea? I feel for the guy, like he was dealt a really tough life - I get that and if he were asking for something that would help him in his life I would gladly give it but he's not. He's asking for a paid vacation for his hobby, that doesn't help him past the 4-5 months extra he's going to get to stay in korea. He's already been there longer than most people, I mean most people will never get the chance to go in the first place. This just seems really weird..
I'm sorry but I don't agree with this at all...Last edit: 2012-03-21 06:24:10 |
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| shinyA China. March 21 2012 06:22. Posts 433 | Profile # |
| i always click the edit instead of the quote >< Last edit: 2012-03-21 06:23:15 |
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| shinyA China. March 21 2012 06:23. Posts 433 | Profile # |
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| Prplppleatr United States. March 21 2012 06:27. Posts 976 | Profile # |
On March 21 2012 06:19 shinyA wrote:
- You like StarCraft
- You can't afford to go to another country for your hobby
- You want people to pay for it
- You're disabled
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Everyone has problems and struggles, just because someone is handicapped doesn't make their problem any more important than the many problems others have. You think everyone can just up and move to Korea for a year? Of course not, people have responsiblities and obligations and can't just up and go travel for a year - not to mention the cost it would take for an average person.
I donate to charities every year, give money to the poor, and do volunteer work because there are people less fortunate than me and are living without the basic things needed to survive. I don't feel comfortable giving someone money just for their hobby - I don't see the point. Me giving you money for you to stay in Korea because you like StarCraft doesn't help anyone, it doesn't even help you beyond the few months of entertainment that you will get. You aren't trying to use the money to help people or give back, you're literally just asking for money because you wanna hang out with progamers in Korea. This seems like a homeless person asking for money outside of a liquir store, I'm obviously not going to give him money to buy beer because that's not helping him. If I'm going to give money to someone it's going to be because they need it or if it will help them, not because they simply want it.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with this at all...
If you do not want to donate, don't. If you do, do.
He is providing us with entertainment in order to bring attention to his plight, just like any and every other tournament (except others are focused on the plight of their sponsors and/or themselves). If you do not see it this way, I don't care, but it is the truth. He is not forcing you to do anything, but is providing you with entertainment. If you want to reward him for that, he would appreciate it.Last edit: 2012-03-21 06:30:59 |
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| TheTurk United States. March 21 2012 06:27. Posts 713 | Profile # |
Nice lineup.
Good luck!  |
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| Magic_Mike United States. March 21 2012 07:01. Posts 498 | Profile # |
On March 21 2012 06:19 shinyA wrote:
- You like StarCraft
- You can't afford to go to another country for your hobby
- You want people to pay for it
- You're disabled
???
Everyone has problems and struggles, just because someone is handicapped doesn't make their problem any more important than the many problems others have. You think everyone can just up and move to Korea for a year? Of course not, people have responsiblities and obligations and can't just up and go travel for a year - not to mention the cost it would take for an average person.
I donate to charities every year, give money to the poor, and do volunteer work because there are people less fortunate than me and are living without the basic things needed to survive. I don't feel comfortable giving someone money just for their hobby - I don't see the point. Me giving you money for you to stay in Korea because you like StarCraft doesn't help anyone, it doesn't even help you beyond the few months of entertainment that you will get. You aren't trying to use the money to help people or give back, you're literally just asking for money because you wanna hang out with progamers in Korea. This seems like a homeless person asking for money outside of a liquir store, I'm obviously not going to give him money to buy beer because that's not helping him. If I'm going to give money to someone it's going to be because they need it or if it will help them, not because they simply want it.
I don't understand the whole "he's not letting his disablity get in the way of his dreams". What does his disablity have to do with it? What's the difference in him or someone else asking a community to fund his trip to Korea? I feel for the guy, like he was dealt a really tough life - I get that and if he were asking for something that would help him in his life I would gladly give it but he's not. He's asking for a paid vacation for his hobby, that doesn't help him past the 4-5 months extra he's going to get to stay in korea. He's already been there longer than most people, I mean most people will never get the chance to go in the first place. This just seems really weird..
I'm sorry but I don't agree with this at all...
I seem to remember someone without a disability having a trip to a foreign country funded by fans who wanted to see the entertainment he provided. Remember MKP at MLG. Yeah people paid for him to go to another country so that he could provide content that would be entertaining for them. This guy isn't out there boozing it up and doing nothing but have a good time on other peoples dime. He is providing content for people like you and others to enjoy. If you don't want to compensate him for that then don't but don't make it sound like asking for help is in any way begging or leeching off of others. He is using the opportunity in a very unselfish way in order to entertain people who want to watch and to inspire folks with or without disabilities.
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| fizzink United States. March 21 2012 07:17. Posts 11 | Profile # |
| paypal to finkm@carleton.edu |
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