Wouldn't be the first or last time someone impersonates me on ladder. Just woke up to see this image on reddit. Gotta love people that see a screenshot with no background/proof/context/anything and just start a witchhunt. Wouldn't be the first or last time for r/starcraft
After some scrutiny from Reddit in which they prove it was his account, he edits in:
Edit: yep just keep jumping to conclusions that it was me just because it was on my account. I share my account with 3 other people and anyone that knows me at all knows I only play on my "orb" account when I stream. I play on a smurf at all other times. Doesn't matter though, reddit witchhunts never listen to logic.
Reddit proceeds to put more heat on, assessing that whoever played on that account had a suspisciously similar playstyle to Orb, played at a Masters level despite not owning their own account, and had his exact hotkey setup. He was also seen to be watching the replay on stream.
Orb reacts to this scrutinty with extreme defensiveness, routinely deploying the word "slander" and accusing anyone who disputed his claims of "fabricating infomation":
Of all fucking people totalbiscuit, I didn't expect you to.join witchhunts slandering people. For the record, I only ever said the n word once on my stream, and I got defeatured for it on TL (despite featured streamer destiny saying the n word daily on his stream).
Since then I have not used the word once on stream..
But please john bain, keep slandering me baselessly.
You seem unbelievably determined to slander me. You link to an empty video and pretend it's proof, and then everyone jumps to conclusions and assumes I deleted it. Notice not a single person is going so far in their lies as to say they saw me do it live... not only was it not me but i habent even streamed sc2 since most evil genius. Keep up the baseless slander guys.
At about this point, LiveOnThree was airing, SirScoots felt the need to urgently address the situation due to it boiling over on Reddit (even reaching the front page).
"Jake has said this was not him last night, that he went to bed, that he has a couple of friends who he shared his account with - which obviously he's not supposed to do - and that he woke up to this shit storm.
Now, you all can choose to believe Jake or not. We at EG are all going to believe him, but have told him that if we find out that this is not the case, your story does not flush, and this is your behaviour and you continue to act this way, then you will be very, very quickly removed from our world."
Soon after, a second Reddit thread turned up. With accusations of multiple counts of almost identical language:
Some hours into the thread, Orb issued this apology, purely regarding the second incident. At no point does he make a reference to the original incident or apologise for all those who he accused of "slander".
Alex Garfield Issued a pre-emptive statement:
hey, everyone. alex (ceo of evil geniuses) here. i'll be making a formal statement about this situation later today. i just wanted to assure everyone that we're aware of these allegations, and that we're taking them very, very seriously.
there will be ramifications here. their severity is something we're still determining, but there's no doubt that the situation requires action on our part.
please try to be patient as we discuss the matter internally.
Shortly after which, a third Reddit thread landed which proved his use of racial slurs on stream:
Who cares? People ladder rage all the time. I guess if you're a part of a known gaming organization such as EG things are a lot different and you have to watch your mouth though (from a sheer PR perspective).. But still, just because you say words like that doesn't mean you're "racist".. Its just being mad and competitive. These allegations seem way over-blown.
Last edit: 2012-03-09 06:16:32
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
On March 09 2012 06:12 Enzymatic wrote: Who cares? People ladder rage all the time. I guess if you're a part of a known gaming organization such as EG things are a lot different and you have to watch your mouth though.. But still, just because you say words like that doesn't mean you're "racist".
It matters because Orb already came out saying it wasn't him, which prompted EG to support him, then it turned out to be a lie. he lied to his organization about it. I also don't think anyone would want to support casting by someone who says this sort of stuff.
BabyGiraldo United States. March 09 2012 06:15. Posts 135
Wow SC2 players are so sensitive... Get on any other console/game and that's completely normal. (If you don't believe me play COD for 5 minutes). It's nice that this is a gm community but jesus this doesn't need it's own thread...
In 1776 all men were created equal, in 1855 all of that changed.
Who cares? This isn't even on par with casters making controversial statements. This is a person laddering on their own account and BMing. I guarantee nobody would care if he didn't use the word 'nigger.'
This isn't Reddit. So why do you bring everything that Reddit cares about to here? You didn't even do anything, you're just reiterating everything from Reddit to here. If people want to talk about it: talk in the two threads that have morphed about orb and racist slurs or sign up to Reddit.
Last edit: 2012-03-09 06:16:59
Pootytang United States. March 09 2012 06:16. Posts 25
To be honest, i feel bad for this guy, when he was casting in NASL i rarely heard of any of this rage etc. Then he cast for EG and these things are popping up everywhere. Also, there are some known pro gamers who also did the same thing, yet the majority of people backed them. This whole situation is just so silly to me, people rage, go look through the many BM threads here, im sure u will find alot worse things.
"Its not rape if you yell surprise"
Mohdoo United States. March 09 2012 06:16. Posts 3948
On March 09 2012 06:15 BabyGiraldo wrote: Wow SC2 players are so sensitive... Get on any other console/game and that's completely normal. (If you don't believe me play COD for 5 minutes). It's nice that this is a gm community but jesus this doesn't need it's own thread...
The SC2 scene prides its self in being different from other communities for this reason.