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 Jayjay54   Germany. March 26 2012 06:29. Posts 2294
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On March 26 2012 06:22 kitaman27 wrote:

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I did read what you suggested and am giving suggestions to improve it. Why so hostile?


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Correct, I don't care about a mason network if it is run by a scum player.


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That doesn't even make sense.

I'm saying rather than outputing the number of sleeper agents and scum individually, that they should be in the same group. It limits the amount of information the anti-town parties have, which benefits town. What would be the downside?


I am hostile, because you don't seem to give a shit. There's been like 2 pages discussions of possible items, if you read it, you'd know that the first and also current draft was to target 4 alive persons. thus render your suggestions useless.

what you write now differs from what you wrote then...

should not reveal information about sleeper agents <> combine scum and sleeper agent in list.

read what you wrote, you'll see...or you just corrected yourself afterwards.

also, I still think it's a good idea to see how many scums and sleepers there are, because we may use the voting behaviour more, if the group involves more scum and maybe less if there are sleepers...
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 kitaman27   United States. March 26 2012 06:30. Posts 4559
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On March 26 2012 06:28 Nisani201 wrote:
Why wouldn't we want more information?


Suppose we get 3 town 1 scum 0 sleepers as a result.

Sleepers can now shoot or lynch into this pool knowing they have zero worry about hitting one of their own.

Now suppose we get 3 town 1 scum/sleeper.

Town still knows there is an anti-town player in this group, but the sleeper team is left in the dark.

Well, I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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 Hassybaby   United Kingdom. March 26 2012 06:31. Posts 8454
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On March 26 2012 06:21 Nisani201 wrote:

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What about Kita?


Pass.

Also, if the Destabilisation level goes up at the end of tonight, again, I'm almost certain Midnight has it, and killed gonzaw for it
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 Jayjay54   Germany. March 26 2012 06:35. Posts 2294
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On March 26 2012 06:30 kitaman27 wrote:

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Suppose we get 3 town 1 scum 0 sleepers as a result.

Sleepers can now shoot or lynch into this pool knowing they have zero worry about hitting one of their own.

Now suppose we get 3 town 1 scum/sleeper.

Town still knows there is an anti-town player in this group, but the sleeper team is left in the dark.




ok so there's three sleepers. One is the leader and may send messages. Don't you think they already know each other?

by posting like, say, this:


On March 24 2012 00:33 kitaman27 wrote:
roszgbsxyejfycvsjyofx


it is highly unlikely that they don't already know.

Also, there's only 3 around, so if one has a kill, they probably won't hit each other.

so def reveal the information.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
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 kitaman27   United States. March 26 2012 06:36. Posts 4559
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On March 26 2012 06:29 Jayjay54 wrote:

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I am hostile, because you don't seem to give a shit. There's been like 2 pages discussions of possible items, if you read it, you'd know that the first and also current draft was to target 4 alive persons. thus render your suggestions useless.


I'm giving my input? From what I can tell, the decision wasn't final. I don't see why I shouldn't explain why a suggestion is bad if it is being considered. My later suggestions to relate to the 4 person item.



On March 26 2012 06:29 Jayjay54 wrote:
what you write now differs from what you wrote then...

should not reveal information about sleeper agents <> combine scum and sleeper agent in list.


lol, I never suggested a item that ignores the sleeper agents. I said it should group the sleeper agents into one anti-town category.


On March 26 2012 06:29 Jayjay54 wrote:
also, I still think it's a good idea to see how many scums and sleepers there are, because we may use the voting behaviour more, if the group involves more scum and maybe less if there are sleepers...


We use that information when the player flips. A 3/1/0 results or a 3/1 result isn't going to give us voting behavior results.
Well, I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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 Paperscraps   United States. March 26 2012 06:38. Posts 440
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On March 26 2012 05:34 Nisani201 wrote:
Invention Name: Color Radiator
At any time you may choose 4 targets. In return you will get the number of alignments in the selection.

eg 2 town 1 scum 1 cell


That would be sweet. Don't use it on the dead yet though. Alive players are more of a threat, unless someone is going to use the Jesus ability again on someone else.



Dirk Hardpec
After reading over Palmar's filter I still read him as scum. Town Palmar puts more effort into the game and isn't afraid to piss people off and call them out for stupid things. Dirk has done nothing of the sort this game. Now that being said, that is just the read I get. Multiple people say that he is a mason, so I will be inclined to believe that for now. Until some more flips occur.

If Dirk/Palmar is scum, then Jayjay is most likely scum as well. Because of the hard defense and some of Jayjay's cases and reads have been slightly off base in my opinion.

All in all Jayjay seems town to me, so his read on Dirk hold some weight with me.

blubbdavid
Read through blub's filter. He is scum. Very little analysis. He has been tunneling on Nisani and Sbrubbles. blub's cases on Sbrubbles is pretty thin. Sbrubbles' filter is small, but the content is actually decent. Nisani has been pretty transparent over the past day about the inventor role. The slight defense of the Kita smurf thing by blub is interesting.

kitaman27
kitaman is scum as well. This is harder to explain. kita's slight interactions here and there with some of the more scummy players in this game are something to note. I guess the biggest tell will be if Dirk dies tonight from being marked from death, even though he denies it right now. Dirk / Kita being on the same team seem very unlikely. Kita could possibly be third party though.

tldr; blub and kita should die.

The above reads are just what jumped out to me when catching up on the thread. I still need to re read and look into some of the more lurkish players.



foolishness
foolishness is somewhat of an enigma right now. A lot of his reads are spot on, but now he is calling me scum. I am going to assume it is a reaction test. His read on me seems to be from meta and more specifically when I was blue roles. I always seem a bit scummy every game, because that is how I get reactions from people and scum hunt. I will agree that I haven't been the most active this game, but activity != alignment. I just finished final's week.

Over the past day he has made a lot of accusations. I would like to see a more focused effort on who is scum, rather than just pointing fingers at everyone. Also I find it convenient that foolishness is able to use meta to read us this game, but we have no real basis to read him this game due to his unique posting style. Just something to consider. Although right now foolishness seems very town to me, due to the majority of his reads and him being resurrected. Plus his rhymes are baller.
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 iGrok   United States. March 26 2012 06:41. Posts 4249
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 Sbrubbles   Brazil. March 26 2012 06:42. Posts 2184
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Suggestion sounds good. Alignment reveal of the living > alignment reveal of the dead. A scumproof item is a good item.


On March 26 2012 06:31 Hassybaby wrote:

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Pass.

Also, if the Destabilisation level goes up at the end of tonight, again, I'm almost certain Midnight has it, and killed gonzaw for it


Hmm ... does that mean you know something about Midnight or gonzaw? Can't you tell us what that is?
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 Jayjay54   Germany. March 26 2012 06:42. Posts 2294
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On March 26 2012 06:36 kitaman27 wrote:

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I'm giving my input? From what I can tell, the decision wasn't final. I don't see why I shouldn't explain why a suggestion is bad if it is being considered. My later suggestions to relate to the 4 person item.



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lol, I never suggested a item that ignores the sleeper agents. I said it should group the sleeper agents into one anti-town category.


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We use that information when the player flips. A 3/1/0 results or a 3/1 result isn't going to give us voting behavior results.


you suggested that it should target alive players, which is did. whatever. brings us no where.

ok, this sentence hit me: "yep, your current invention shouldn't reveal information about sleeper agents.". I've been wrong here, you clearly state in the post before how you want to do it....sorry about that.

3/1/0 may suggest e.g. a late bluelightz switch or so, while a 3/0/1 nullifies the voting pattern. I think that's useful.

do you think a mason network is helpful? why not leave dirk alive regardless of his alignmen?
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
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 kitaman27   United States. March 26 2012 06:45. Posts 4559
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On March 26 2012 06:42 Jayjay54 wrote:
do you think a mason network is helpful? why not leave dirk alive regardless of his alignmen?



When do you ever leave a scum player alive because he has a pro-town role? I don't understand.
Well, I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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 Adam4167   Australia. March 26 2012 06:46. Posts 1223
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I think the mason network is useless if it was started by a scum.

Discussion in there will keep the town oblivious, while the scum watch on. Better served saying the same things in the main thread where everyone can see it.
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 Jayjay54   Germany. March 26 2012 06:56. Posts 2294
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I actually am glad that I am in there and I think it helps quite a bit. Me and Zel were quite productive, I don't care if that's watched, we share our views and thoughts to a degree and that's helpful. A third active member would be beneficial for town imo.

However, I can see how Palmar is not caring. So he might be a valid lynch candidate. Here's what I'be thinking regarding his alignment:

I don't think he's cell though, he'd be searching for his buddies. I had scum ruled out to a degree because I assume aperture science is robots and stuff and the mason network is called "telepathic testing" (I may be wrong here though). What is definitely an option is third, that fits flavour wise as well...

A fact I noticed (and posted before) is that the unique viewer count is 20 which def means Obs QT and/or scum is watching. Palmar hasn't made a statement when the viewers showed up (before/after BH was invited) which concerns me a little.

Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
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 iGrok   United States. March 26 2012 07:04. Posts 4249
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 kitaman27   United States. March 26 2012 07:05. Posts 4559
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If Palmar survives the night, he needs to be lynched. No town medic is going to honestly be protecting him.

Like I said before, I gave my lemon to grackoni. Grackoni got shot and Palmar ended up with a lemon, when nobody claimed to have given him one.
Well, I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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 GreYMisT   United States. March 26 2012 08:02. Posts 4695
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Day 4

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Hello! this is your prerecorded voice speaking. The Aperture Science Enrichment Center would like to invite Zelblade, Paperscraps, Hassybaby, and Velinath to companionship testing. You will go through a series of completely harmless trust building exercises. I would again like to stress that these will not cause you any harm, and you will be able to rejoin the other test subjects soon. Have fun!

Test Subject Link, The Hero of Time (Zelblade) was Drowned in a Sea of Madness!

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Test Subject Yugi Moto, The King of Games (Hassybaby), was Discouraged!

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Test Subject Wolverine, Invincible Vigilante (Velinath) Was Sent to the Graveyard!

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The Aperture Science Aperture Science Thermal Discouragement Beam (Paperscraps) Was Burned to Death!

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Jayjay54 has shown amazing leadership and testing initiative! he has been elected to be a Stalemate associate for the following day. As a Stalemate Associate, he will control the lynch for day 4! Happy Testing!

The Color Radiator has been invented!



It is now day 4, JayJay54 controls the lynch! the day will end on march 27 18:00 CDT[local]
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 Velinath   United States. March 26 2012 08:03. Posts 629
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bah, GL guys
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 Hassybaby   United Kingdom. March 26 2012 08:05. Posts 8454
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son of a...gg guys gl!
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 zelblade   Singapore. March 26 2012 08:07. Posts 872
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Does my "typo" make sense now you paranoid motherfucker?

GG go town
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 Jayjay54   Germany. March 26 2012 08:12. Posts 2294
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great. most of my town reads are dead.

Nisani delivered. I am actually surprised that he lived through the day, though or wasn't roleblocked. I mean why kill Yu-Gi over the inventor. Strange.

I don't know why, I control the lynch. I didn't do anything.

I think zel wanted me to post this in case I die.


Right basically who I wanna lynch in this order tomorrow.

1) Nisani if his inventor claim is fake.
2) Paperscraps
3) Kita
4) Wiggles
5) Nisani if hes inventor (can wait tomorrow night)
6) Phagga, blub


Honestly theres probably quite alot more but I havent had the motivation to actually take good look at the filters of most people in the game.

Ill just post a few town reads in case I die.

Town

1) zel 101% town
2) JJ
3) Hassy for role
4) Adam
5) Dirk for role
6) Ghost


Dirk / the new invited player will verify that if you need him to.

anyone has the color radiator?
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
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 kitaman27   United States. March 26 2012 08:13. Posts 4559
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Palmar survived my hit.
Well, I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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