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| jcr2001 Singapore. March 15 2012 16:44. Posts 30 | Profile Blog # |
Personally, I wouldn't be too worried about this as it would just spur Blizzard to improve their game. Multiple games can survive as long as the funding is there.
Not sure if anyone mentioned this: the Design Director of LoL is none other than Tom 'Zileas' Cadwell, that BW legend who ushered in a new school of Starcraft play. I've played LoL and dismissed its easier interface, but it is a good game nonetheless, I think it's fun and play it from time to time. |
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| broz0rs United States. March 15 2012 16:48. Posts 1863 | Profile # |
Riot was willing to sell much of their soul to Kespa and it payed off.
I am convinced Korean broadcasting can turn any game into e-sport. Check out what Korean broadcasters do with Street Fighter. |
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| starcraftred Canada. March 15 2012 17:04. Posts 12 | Profile # |
On March 15 2012 16:48 broz0rs wrote:
Riot was willing to sell much of their soul to Kespa and it payed off.
I am convinced Korean broadcasting can turn any game into e-sport. Check out what Korean broadcasters do with Street Fighter.
thats true too, i get the impression that gomtv is small fry since it is webplayer based, and blizzard bit themselves in the foot doing that exclusive deal as they don't get the broadcasting to reach out to the mass of casuals.
Just look at dungeon fighter it seemed to do well with its broad cast presence, although not bashing it since the game itself is fun (imo much funner then LoL but i dont play because it doesn't have dedicated servers for multiplayer unlike LoL)
edit and oh i tried out LoL after nada made those commercial and it got big in korea which legitimized it more in my eyes, so yes bandwagoning does wonders although i still think the game is only 'okay' but i spent about 70$ on it already so riot plans work out in the end...blizz should take notes..
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 rotinegg United States. March 15 2012 17:10. Posts 1717 | Profile Blog # |
On March 15 2012 16:48 broz0rs wrote:
Riot was willing to sell much of their soul to Kespa and it payed off.
I am convinced Korean broadcasting can turn any game into e-sport. Check out what Korean broadcasters do with Street Fighter.
I wouldn't go as far as saying they "sold much of their soul" to Kespa... they just decided not to be an idiot like Blizzard and fuck themselves over lol
Kespa: Hey Riot, esports?
Riot: Sounds awesome, you have my support!
Kespa: Hey Blizz, esports?
Blizzard: MY ESPORTS!!! MINE!!! SCREW YOU!!! *lawsuit*Last edit: 2012-03-15 17:12:31 |
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| Sawamura Malaysia. March 15 2012 17:14. Posts 7240 | Profile Blog # |
On March 15 2012 17:10 rotinegg wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 16:48 broz0rs wrote:
Riot was willing to sell much of their soul to Kespa and it payed off.
I am convinced Korean broadcasting can turn any game into e-sport. Check out what Korean broadcasters do with Street Fighter.
I wouldn't go as far as saying they "sold much of their soul" to Kespa... they just decided not to be an idiot like Blizzard and fuck themselves over lol Kespa: Hey Riot, esports? Riot: Sounds awesome, you have my support! Kespa: Hey Blizz, esports? Blizzard: MY ESPORTS!!! MINE!!! SCREW YOU!!! *lawsuit*
I cannot stop lolling ........ roting egg for the win yeah what you did there definitely describe exactly what's happening now . Too bad blizzard took away one of their most long standing relationship in terms of promoting their flag ship game for 10 years . Maybe if they didn't do that I wonder mbc game will still be around  .Last edit: 2012-03-15 17:15:44 |
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| NGrNecris New Zealand. March 15 2012 17:18. Posts 662 | Profile # |
On March 15 2012 17:14 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 17:10 rotinegg wrote:
On March 15 2012 16:48 broz0rs wrote:
Riot was willing to sell much of their soul to Kespa and it payed off.
I am convinced Korean broadcasting can turn any game into e-sport. Check out what Korean broadcasters do with Street Fighter.
I wouldn't go as far as saying they "sold much of their soul" to Kespa... they just decided not to be an idiot like Blizzard and fuck themselves over lol Kespa: Hey Riot, esports? Riot: Sounds awesome, you have my support! Kespa: Hey Blizz, esports? Blizzard: MY ESPORTS!!! MINE!!! SCREW YOU!!! *lawsuit*
I cannot stop lolling ........ roting egg for the win yeah what you did there definitely describe exactly what's happening now . Too bad blizzard took away one of their most long standing relationship in terms of promoting their flag ship game for 10 years . Maybe if they didn't do that I wonder mbc game will still be around .
Blizzard is killing esports |
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| Cosmology Canada. March 15 2012 17:19. Posts 336 | Profile # |
| This fucking kills me, all that work put into a game to realize that it's dying out because the creators refuse to support it, I remembered back when my friends thought it was cool I was a Master's league Starcraft player, now they consider it stupid compared to LoL. |
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| Aratan United States. March 15 2012 17:30. Posts 81 | Profile # |
On March 15 2012 17:19 Cosmology wrote:
This fucking kills me, all that work put into a game to realize that it's dying out because the creators refuse to support it, I remembered back when my friends thought it was cool I was a Master's league Starcraft player, now they consider it stupid compared to LoL.
Yah i think ladder sort of failed. During season 1 when i hit masters, thats when the game became boring for me because it didnt feel like i had any thing to achieve any more (I never wanted to spend time to go GM), while in LOL you can continue to gain elo and ranking never really got boring for me. |
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| Grampz United States. March 15 2012 17:34. Posts 2069 | Profile # |
| if there is one game that gets me more raged than sc2, it is definitely HoN. and it must be a thousand times worse in LoL considering theres so many more people that play. And by more raged, i mean intensity of a thousand suns raged. |
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| Kinzo New Zealand. March 15 2012 17:35. Posts 3 | Profile # |
On March 15 2012 17:18 NGrNecris wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 17:14 Sawamura wrote:
On March 15 2012 17:10 rotinegg wrote:
On March 15 2012 16:48 broz0rs wrote:
Riot was willing to sell much of their soul to Kespa and it payed off.
I am convinced Korean broadcasting can turn any game into e-sport. Check out what Korean broadcasters do with Street Fighter.
I wouldn't go as far as saying they "sold much of their soul" to Kespa... they just decided not to be an idiot like Blizzard and fuck themselves over lol Kespa: Hey Riot, esports? Riot: Sounds awesome, you have my support! Kespa: Hey Blizz, esports? Blizzard: MY ESPORTS!!! MINE!!! SCREW YOU!!! *lawsuit*
I cannot stop lolling ........ roting egg for the win yeah what you did there definitely describe exactly what's happening now . Too bad blizzard took away one of their most long standing relationship in terms of promoting their flag ship game for 10 years . Maybe if they didn't do that I wonder mbc game will still be around .
Blizzard is killing esports
They've lost their paaasion!Last edit: 2012-03-15 17:39:32 |
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| starcraftred Canada. March 15 2012 17:48. Posts 12 | Profile # |
On March 15 2012 17:35 Kinzo wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 17:18 NGrNecris wrote:
On March 15 2012 17:14 Sawamura wrote:
On March 15 2012 17:10 rotinegg wrote:
On March 15 2012 16:48 broz0rs wrote:
Riot was willing to sell much of their soul to Kespa and it payed off.
I am convinced Korean broadcasting can turn any game into e-sport. Check out what Korean broadcasters do with Street Fighter.
I wouldn't go as far as saying they "sold much of their soul" to Kespa... they just decided not to be an idiot like Blizzard and fuck themselves over lol Kespa: Hey Riot, esports? Riot: Sounds awesome, you have my support! Kespa: Hey Blizz, esports? Blizzard: MY ESPORTS!!! MINE!!! SCREW YOU!!! *lawsuit*
I cannot stop lolling ........ roting egg for the win yeah what you did there definitely describe exactly what's happening now . Too bad blizzard took away one of their most long standing relationship in terms of promoting their flag ship game for 10 years . Maybe if they didn't do that I wonder mbc game will still be around .
Blizzard is killing esports
They've lost their paaasion!
no they didn't they just found a new passion $$$ 
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| xmaine United States. March 15 2012 17:50. Posts 30 | Profile # |
Basketball is an easy sport because you get to use your hands. Hands are for noobs.
From,
Soccer player.
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 Capped Sri Lanka. March 15 2012 18:21. Posts 2636 | Profile Blog # |
The funny thing is, i bet 50% of the people moaning and crying (for no good reason) in this thread play and enjoy LoL every week.
Still dont understand why a game doing well is a bad thing. It is only going to boost the coverage of every other esport anyway, i knew f**k all about LoL, CS (well a tiny bit.), BW etc before SC2. It will be the same with LoL introducing other newbies.
Also, if you dont like it. Nobody is asking you to play, read or watch it :| Why so much hate on something thats good ? :D |
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| Black[CAT] Malaysia. March 15 2012 18:24. Posts 2543 | Profile Blog # |
I'm actually downloading LoL right now  I was hesitant since last year to test out LoL, but I guess, it is worth a try since apparently one of its creater is Guinsoo and even the legendary Zileas is working on it. |
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| virpi Germany. March 15 2012 18:24. Posts 1583 | Profile Blog # |
| But LoL is soooo boring to watch. Why... |
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| Amui Canada. March 15 2012 18:31. Posts 3312 | Profile Blog # |
On March 15 2012 18:24 virpi wrote:
But LoL is soooo boring to watch. Why...
Listen to Korean commentary. They can make watching grass grow interesting. ATM there's just not any english LoL casters that I like listening to. I much prefer the players casting because I don't want the play-by-play, I'd rather the analysis because my goal when watching is to improve/learn, not to be entertained, although some streams do provide entertainment. |
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| Rorance Canada. March 15 2012 18:37. Posts 31 | Profile # |
This thread has nothing on that one, at all.
People are actually reasonably discussing things, not blindly stating opinions as facts. I suppose it's due to the OP having ban powers :D
Seriously though, the display of the community in this thread is sickening. People bashing LoL for being "casual" despite never playing at the top level of play, it's like going into a BGH game in BW and claiming the game is for casuals without ever touching Melee.
Also the BW die hards bashing both the LoL and SC2 fan(boys/girls), mocking them both and sticking their tongues out saying "I told you so, SC2 fails!" and "Now you know how we feel!"
I personally love SC2, loved BW for a long while and play LoL occasionally when laddering on SC2 is stressing me out. What is most popular doesn't matter to me, I enjoy what I like to play (Too many games to name) and I know what I like to watch regarding E-Sports (SC2/SFxT/and a rare game of LoL/DOTA2).
Honestly, why do other people's opinions and preferences regarding E-Sports have to ruin your day? Does it make you like BW, SC2 or any other game less? Does it make it less entertaining to watch for you knowing more people are watching and playing LoL? Does the fact more people enjoy watching the Summer Olympics make me enjoy watching snowboarding and hockey any less during the Winter Olympics?
How many BW players compare their game to having the mental dexterity of chess along with the mechanics of playing an insane piece on piano? How many of you have ever watched an actual chess game? or watched a symphony in concert? You think chess players care that checkers is more accessible? I'm just repeating myself now but I am having a really hard time understanding you people.
Why can't you just see this as an evolution of e-sports? As MorroW said, this is only good for E-Sports, having a mainstream sport to bring people into the scene and expose more people to SC2 and other E-Sports can only end well for everyone.Last edit: 2012-03-15 18:40:01 |
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| -Exalt- United States. March 15 2012 19:10. Posts 966 | Profile Blog # |
On March 15 2012 18:37 Rorance wrote:This thread has nothing on that one, at all. People are actually reasonably discussing things, not blindly stating opinions as facts. I suppose it's due to the OP having ban powers :D Seriously though, the display of the community in this thread is sickening. People bashing LoL for being "casual" despite never playing at the top level of play, it's like going into a BGH game in BW and claiming the game is for casuals without ever touching Melee. Also the BW die hards bashing both the LoL and SC2 fan(boys/girls), mocking them both and sticking their tongues out saying "I told you so, SC2 fails!" and "Now you know how we feel!" I personally love SC2, loved BW for a long while and play LoL occasionally when laddering on SC2 is stressing me out. What is most popular doesn't matter to me, I enjoy what I like to play (Too many games to name) and I know what I like to watch regarding E-Sports (SC2/SFxT/and a rare game of LoL/DOTA2). Honestly, why do other people's opinions and preferences regarding E-Sports have to ruin your day? Does it make you like BW, SC2 or any other game less? Does it make it less entertaining to watch for you knowing more people are watching and playing LoL? Does the fact more people enjoy watching the Summer Olympics make me enjoy watching snowboarding and hockey any less during the Winter Olympics? How many BW players compare their game to having the mental dexterity of chess along with the mechanics of playing an insane piece on piano? How many of you have ever watched an actual chess game? or watched a symphony in concert? You think chess players care that checkers is more accessible? I'm just repeating myself now but I am having a really hard time understanding you people. Why can't you just see this as an evolution of e-sports? As MorroW said, this is only good for E-Sports, having a mainstream sport to bring people into the scene and expose more people to SC2 and other E-Sports can only end well for everyone.
I don't mind LoL getting support/ growing. What bugs me is the LoL players who come in a thread on a starcraft site and try to justify their game being more difficult than Starcraft.
They are different games, and factually starcraft requires more mechanics at a high level.. so in LoL as long as you have a good team and know the hero's abilities.. guess what? you have yourself a pretty high rank. in starcraft everything depends upon YOU, your mechanics / multitasking / apm, knowledge of the metagame, just soo much more than LoL.
Because I didn't play/watch Brood war or WC3 or ANY rts pre-sc2, when i bought sc2 it took me a few months to get to the highest tier (below pro level, now high masters) from being a competitive WoW arena player, whereas it might have taken a normal more casual gamer a half a year, probably more to get to the highest level. It took me about a month of playing LoL with my friend to be considered a "good player", equivilant to that of a masters player in sc2, with no real Dota experience prior.
My point is Starcraft is more difficult on a personal non team level. That can explain it's lack of growth. It can also explain the natural anger that comes from the Starcraft community, when a game that requires less skill / has less DEPTH, get's more attention than your own game, cause in the end that's all we really want.
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| xsnac Romania. March 15 2012 19:36. Posts 805 | Profile Blog # |
On March 15 2012 17:10 rotinegg wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 16:48 broz0rs wrote:
Riot was willing to sell much of their soul to Kespa and it payed off.
I am convinced Korean broadcasting can turn any game into e-sport. Check out what Korean broadcasters do with Street Fighter.
I wouldn't go as far as saying they "sold much of their soul" to Kespa... they just decided not to be an idiot like Blizzard and fuck themselves over lol Kespa: Hey Riot, esports? Riot: Sounds awesome, you have my support! Kespa: Hey Blizz, esports? Blizzard: MY ESPORTS!!! MINE!!! SCREW YOU!!! *lawsuit*
esports is something global not korean , gomtv get much more casual/pro gamers involved globaly then kespa would ever do . they would just put a locker on starcraft 2 in wich is writed : pro gamer sc2 = korean 99% . just like they did with bw . |
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 bokeevboke Singapore. March 15 2012 19:39. Posts 1552 | Profile Blog # |
On March 15 2012 19:10 AegiS_ wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 18:37 Rorance wrote:This thread has nothing on that one, at all. People are actually reasonably discussing things, not blindly stating opinions as facts. I suppose it's due to the OP having ban powers :D Seriously though, the display of the community in this thread is sickening. People bashing LoL for being "casual" despite never playing at the top level of play, it's like going into a BGH game in BW and claiming the game is for casuals without ever touching Melee. Also the BW die hards bashing both the LoL and SC2 fan(boys/girls), mocking them both and sticking their tongues out saying "I told you so, SC2 fails!" and "Now you know how we feel!" I personally love SC2, loved BW for a long while and play LoL occasionally when laddering on SC2 is stressing me out. What is most popular doesn't matter to me, I enjoy what I like to play (Too many games to name) and I know what I like to watch regarding E-Sports (SC2/SFxT/and a rare game of LoL/DOTA2). Honestly, why do other people's opinions and preferences regarding E-Sports have to ruin your day? Does it make you like BW, SC2 or any other game less? Does it make it less entertaining to watch for you knowing more people are watching and playing LoL? Does the fact more people enjoy watching the Summer Olympics make me enjoy watching snowboarding and hockey any less during the Winter Olympics? How many BW players compare their game to having the mental dexterity of chess along with the mechanics of playing an insane piece on piano? How many of you have ever watched an actual chess game? or watched a symphony in concert? You think chess players care that checkers is more accessible? I'm just repeating myself now but I am having a really hard time understanding you people. Why can't you just see this as an evolution of e-sports? As MorroW said, this is only good for E-Sports, having a mainstream sport to bring people into the scene and expose more people to SC2 and other E-Sports can only end well for everyone.
I don't mind LoL getting support/ growing. What bugs me is the LoL players who come in a thread on a starcraft site and try to justify their game being more difficult than Starcraft.
I didn't see anyone claiming LoL is harder than sc2. LoL players were mostly defending from "no skill, easy game" accusations. |
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