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Teacher in trouble for reading Ender's Game

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 Requizen   United States. March 16 2012 07:10. Posts 7359
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Source:
http://www.aikenstandard.com/story/0315Followup-with-school--3862406

tl:dr - Teacher reads Ender's Game to her class as part of an attempt to get kids more interested in reading. 14 year old kid tells his mom, she complains to the school, teacher is put on "leave".

I read Ender's Game (and indeed most of the series) around that age or younger, and it didn't scar me in any lasting way, in fact, it made me more interested in reading in general. However, I suppose I'm not indicative of every child that age. I also read Animorphs (which was actually really violent, reflecting back on it), and I don't know if those would pass the test either.

Do you think Orson Scott Card's books are too "pornographic" or offensive? How about other books that are written for that age range?
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 MaV_gGSC   Canada. March 16 2012 07:10. Posts 1306
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EDIT: Nvm I confused Ender Games with Hunger Games
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 spacek   United States. March 16 2012 07:13. Posts 199
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props to that teacher, that is probably my favorite book / series.

as for teaching it in school.. if my junior year english teacher (high school) can teach Looking for Alaska, Ender's Game is totally fine. In fact, the worst scene i can think of off the top of my head might be the fight in the shower? The whole extermination thing is probably an issue, but it's not played out like that in the story at all. People probably read "omg book about exterminating aliens!" and freak out..

edit: for those who havent read / heard of looking for alaska, it's got some pretty explicit depictions of sexual encounters- oral sex being one of them
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 RonNation   United States. March 16 2012 07:14. Posts 337
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when i was in 7th grade Ender's Game was required reading for my class....
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  Myles   United States. March 16 2012 07:14. Posts 4106Profile Blog # 
I've not read Ender's Game, but I did read a lot of Animorphs, which do deal with pretty mature morality concepts along with general violence, and imo books like that are what kids need to be interested in reading.
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 ThaZenith   Canada. March 16 2012 07:15. Posts 3046
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LOL, pornographic? It's a book about, like, 6 year olds. And as far as I remember there's only the one shower thing.
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 solidbebe   Netherlands. March 16 2012 07:16. Posts 3238
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Wow how pathetic can you get.
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 Kickboxer   Slovenia. March 16 2012 07:17. Posts 1043
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jesus christ holy fuck what the fuck
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 cmen15   United States. March 16 2012 07:17. Posts 1460
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On March 16 2012 07:14 RonNation wrote:
when i was in 7th grade Ender's Game was required reading for my class....

Yea me to, and i know my brother read this also when he was in middle school... What a joke lol, have these people watched tv in the last few years???
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 iGrok   United States. March 16 2012 07:17. Posts 4249
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On March 16 2012 07:15 ThaZenith wrote:
LOL, pornographic? It's a book about, like, 6 year olds. And as far as I remember there's only the one shower thing.

There's also Petra being naked. Its mentioned once, and in the book the kids are told not to freak out about it because its not a big deal. There's a lesson in there somewhere...
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 NIJ   March 16 2012 07:18. Posts 912
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I don't recall any porn in enders game.. there's ton of violence though and its graphic.

The way ender describes valerie though maybe it could be considered incestuous lol. He really loves her. /jk
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 oBlade   Korea (South). March 16 2012 07:18. Posts 2158
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Fahrenheit 451 should be required reading for everyone involved in this "story."
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 Monsen   Germany. March 16 2012 07:19. Posts 1989
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Congratulations america.

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 GertHeart   United States. March 16 2012 07:20. Posts 599
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I personally couldn't understand why this book was in my library after I read it at school. I didn't complain though, it was a great book. This is probably one of those rap listening "you don't know me" kind of kids. The book is technically categorized for his age anyway, Teacher shouldn't get in trouble for this, is there a way to contact the school on this topic? I would like to write them a letter personally.
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 Warlock40   March 16 2012 07:22. Posts 491
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On March 16 2012 07:19 Monsen wrote:
Congratulations america.


This incident is clearly indicative of the policy in every school in America.
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 Aberu   United States. March 16 2012 07:23. Posts 819
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The objection which many people are plainly missing was that the teacher did not use the proper procedures to get the book authorized. If that teacher had done their job right this wouldn't have been a fiasco. If the school had notified police like it is procedurally required to, then none of this would have happened. It's not so much about the books contents as it is the school and teacher just doing whatever they'd like.
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 FFGenerations   March 16 2012 07:26. Posts 2636
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and god forbid a teacher working his brains out day in day out to help educate our kids not bother to get a reading book authorised
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  Myles   United States. March 16 2012 07:26. Posts 4106Profile Blog # 
Looking a little closer, the issue seems to be mostly about the teacher not going through the proper channels to get the book approved, as well as the fact that the school didn't report the crime(? I don't know what crime happened, unless they're seriously accusing them of showing porn to kids when it's a critically acclaimed book for kids 12+). Still pretty absurd, though.
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 Farmer Poopy   March 16 2012 07:26. Posts 182
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Wow...... there were a few scenes where the characters were naked but I wouldn't call it pornographic in any way. Petra was naked once, the boys are naked in their bunks, and Ender made them run through the halls naked when they didn't change in time. And all of this was when they were under 10 (if I remember correctly).

I think I read it when I was 13, and it was instantly one of my favorite books (because of the stategy aspects and such like I'm suspecting many of you on TL). My sister read it in highschool (out of a choice of several books). don't remember how old she was, sophmore or junior I think.

Imo, its pretty stupid and goes along with the whole parents who "bubble wrap" everything that their child goes near
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 Funguuuuu   United States. March 16 2012 07:26. Posts 198
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Enders game was one of the first books that I really loved while reading, and because of it I started to read a lot more. It is really unfortunate that the parents acted so stupidly.
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