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 Risen   United States. March 25 2012 07:34. Posts 5845
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On March 25 2012 07:30 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey Risen, I'm going to tell you this once and slowly, Layabout posted legit reasoning for his vote. You are the one who is dragged behind a horse.


Bullshit he did. He voted with no support, and then backtracked and was like OH WELL I VOTED B/C THIS. Let this be a lesson, don't fucking vote without support and then look scummy by having to support yourself later when people call you out.
Pufftrees Everyday > its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/FakeSteve[TPR]: excal i knew there was something... different about you. get at my digits you sexy manbeast
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 Risen   United States. March 25 2012 07:37. Posts 5845
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EBWOP



On March 24 2012 07:26 layabout wrote:
i am switching
##vote GreYMisT


no support



On March 24 2012 07:35 layabout wrote:

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No, i am basing it off of the need for town to get on the same lynch and the chance that he might actually be scum since oberyn and syllo seem to think he is.



response to me calling him out for switching with no support. His reasoning is that two other people seem to think greymist is scum



On March 24 2012 07:44 layabout wrote:

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Who do you honestly think we should lynch?
Since apparently voting for you is enough to earn your vote i am pretty sure it is not me.

Otherwise, that votecount is so horrendous and open to manipulation it might be best to mass switch to Nicolas so that we don't lose two townies.



No supporting evidence in here either.



So you want to tell me exactly where he provided any valid reasoning? Oh, there is none.
Pufftrees Everyday > its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/FakeSteve[TPR]: excal i knew there was something... different about you. get at my digits you sexy manbeast
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 Alderan   United States. March 25 2012 07:37. Posts 463
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Spoiler'd because this is about to be in all caps:

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 risk.nuke   Sweden. March 25 2012 07:38. Posts 2763
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On March 25 2012 07:34 Risen wrote:

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Bullshit he did. He voted with no support, and then backtracked and was like OH WELL I VOTED B/C THIS. Let this be a lesson, don't fucking vote without support and then look scummy by having to support yourself later when people call you out.


On March 24 2012 07:15 layabout wrote:

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In light of his recent posts I think oberyn cares about finding scum or at least he is bothering to produce the signs of looking for scum and i do not think we should lynch him.

I don't think greymist cares about finding scum. He has made many posts but the only lynch candidate he has pushed has been oberyn.

I looked at grey earlier but i thought it would be easier to vote for alerdan (who's vote on me is poorly justified) rather than to try to come up with some sub-par analysis, i was curious about why he was still telling us to lynch oberyn even though oberyn is showing more signs of a town agenda than half of the people in the thread.
By continuing to push oberyn it looks to me like Greymist is trying to keep the votes spread.

A greymist lynch sounds like the best option we still have.

also i would like to point out that leading the votes are for :
evantrees (3) - Mattchew, Sinensis, OriginalName
a lurker
layabout (3) - SamuelLJackson, gumshoe, Alderan
a lurker
Mattchew (3) - Acrofales, Xatalos, MrZentor, evantrees
an annoying dude

Did anybody else see my posting like this?


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Go sit in the corner.
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 Alderan   United States. March 25 2012 07:38. Posts 463
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On March 25 2012 07:37 Risen wrote:
EBWOP



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no support



Show nested quote +



response to me calling him out for switching with no support. His reasoning is that two other people seem to think greymist is scum



Show nested quote +



No supporting evidence in here either.



So you want to tell me exactly where he provided any valid reasoning? Oh, there is none.


You're also failing to acknowledge that he has already flipped town...
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 Risen   United States. March 25 2012 07:39. Posts 5845
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On March 25 2012 07:37 Alderan wrote:
Spoiler'd because this is about to be in all caps:

+ Show Spoiler +



On March 24 2012 07:39 Risen wrote:
Anyone, ANYONE taking wbg seriously needs to look at this shit.


Show nested quote +



Claims Greymist is scum.



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Then responds to someone who he "knows" is scum in a serious manner. If wbg is as all-knowing as he claims and KNOWS Greymiust is scum he wouldn't respond to him at all if he was as "pro-town" as he claims.

How can anyone listen to anything this guys has to say.

Brings me to the point of this post, since any townie should know to ignore wbg. Layabout has to be SCUM. If you're town you deserve to burn for such a useless vote swap late game. Is it so much to ask for a fucking town that doesn't shit itself and fall apart? Since no one seems to be taking Acro the other scum seriously, I'm voting for layabout.

##unvote
##vote layabout


and good riddance if you're town.


Perfectly acceptable reasoning imo. When presented with two people who you're unsure of, lynch the one who looks scummy. Layabout, by making himself appear scummy, became the scummiest of the two. Easy vote for me.
Pufftrees Everyday > its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/FakeSteve[TPR]: excal i knew there was something... different about you. get at my digits you sexy manbeast
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 wherebugsgo   United States. March 25 2012 07:41. Posts 7931
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On March 25 2012 07:19 Risen wrote:

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I stand by the layabout lynch, and as I said earlier hopefully he learns from his mistake. He could make the same play in a future mafia and I'd still lynch him.

I'm not a roleblocker, so boo.


In this post Risen denies being a roleblocker but doesn't deny being scum.

gg
 
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 Risen   United States. March 25 2012 07:42. Posts 5845
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On March 25 2012 07:41 wherebugsgo wrote:

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In this post Risen denies being a roleblocker but doesn't deny being scum.

gg


When you shoot me I'll flip. After I'm dead lynch Acrofales. Going to the movies with my sister, godspeed town.
Pufftrees Everyday > its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/FakeSteve[TPR]: excal i knew there was something... different about you. get at my digits you sexy manbeast
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 risk.nuke   Sweden. March 25 2012 07:44. Posts 2763
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Btw townies, do you know how sad it is that the most pro-town person besides myself is the third party. Townies do you understand waht that means? Can you fathom how lousy you're playing. I wish the mafia would kill me tonight you so I don't have to play with you useless lurkers, morons and dumb-posters anymore.
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 Alderan   United States. March 25 2012 07:49. Posts 463
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On March 25 2012 07:44 risk.nuke wrote:
Btw townies, do you know how sad it is that the most pro-town person besides myself is the third party. Townies do you understand waht that means? Can you fathom how lousy you're playing. I wish the mafia would kill me tonight you so I don't have to play with you useless lurkers, morons and dumb-posters anymore.


I read this in the voice of a 13 year old on Call of Duty.
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 MrZentor   United States. March 25 2012 07:55. Posts 1541
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On March 25 2012 07:49 Alderan wrote:

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I read this in the voice of a 13 year old on Call of Duty.


Leave the trolling to WBG.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
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 layabout   United Kingdom. March 25 2012 07:59. Posts 1905
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On March 25 2012 07:19 Risen wrote:

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I stand by the layabout lynch, and as I said earlier hopefully he learns from his mistake. He could make the same play in a future mafia and I'd still lynch him.

I'm not a roleblocker, so boo.

Edit: Curu is most handsome, i must apologise for not controlling myself.
Last edit: 2012-03-25 08:02:59
"there is no such thing as an anti-town town member" -Sinensis
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 Acrofales   Brazil. March 25 2012 08:00. Posts 5200
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Firstly, I have reconsidered and you're a stupid idiot. I hope mafia shoot you and get PGO'd in the face, NOW STOP SCARING ME.

Now on to your bullshit case, because I might as well get rid of this crap.


On March 23 2012 06:01 Risen wrote:

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Everything about this post screams emotional overreaction to being voted with something that is clearly not a serious vote.


Yeah. Had I mentioned this is my first game? Oh yeah. Only like umpteen billion times.




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For reasons I can't put my finger on, I get the feeling from this post that Acro is either horrible, horrible town, or trying to just talk with mattchew so they can generate discussion that looks pro-town. Makes me feel like Acro and mattchew are both scum.

I like to think I have improved my play during the course of this game, but if you like to call me horrible horrible town, go ahead. The important part in this post was, and I will reiterate: is my first game (ever) and I was hoping to live past the first day.

Now that I have achieved that, I would like to add that I want to live past the first night too. I like your read on Mattchew, though. Since then he has been somewhat useful, but I'm still suspicious of him. I hope you are too. In fact, why not kill him instead of me, in the offchance that you are what you're claiming to be.



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More proof of my earlier feeling.


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Even more...


Even more what? How is this any kind of anything except Mattchew throwing one-liner accusations? I stand by my initial defense: I was being trolled by a fake vote and one-liner accusations. Even Mattchew, the chobo throwing them has backed off. We'll get to your WIFOM about Mattchew and me in a minute.




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Entire post is about how he wants to lynch Mattchew... but the last line is telling. He's clearly giving himself an out for when he decides miraculously not to vote mattchew because "someone more scummy" has come along.


Oh ffs. I'm not allowed to tell the truth anymore? I should lie just so my case is stronger? I thought lying was a scumtell? I actually DID (and do) think his post just prior to me posting my case was actually quite townie, but that does not exculpate him from all the other crap he posted, which was SCUMMY AS HELL. My scumometer looked like this:
[---------------------------------------|----]
and as a small addendum at the end of my post I stated that he had done something useful, so my scumometer looked like this:
[--------------------------------------|-----]
If it's not reasonable to post what I truly think, then yeah, just kill me now, because I WANT OUT. I have been calling everything exactly like I see it from the get go.




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A legitimate post calling out a lurker.

Yay. Thank you for your honesty here. See, I'm not all bad.


My feeling: [r]scum[/r]

He's the most scummy read I have thus far.

WHY? Have you read anything by Gumshoe? AT ALL?

Anyway. Somewhat later you say:

On March 23 2012 06:30 Risen wrote:
MrZentor pretty much made my case against mattchew/acro, but as someone pointed out earlier those two were already major targets, so it's not very impressive that he's decrying them.


How and where does MrZentor make any case at all against me? Please point me to it, because it has magically disappeared from his filter. If your ENTIRE CASE is based on these posts in which he is DEFENDING ME, then WTF?!!!!
[spoiler MrZentor to the rescue!!!]

On March 22 2012 05:32 MrZentor wrote:
Hello people of Mafia! It is I, MrZentor!

Anyways, I thought this started a day after it did, so I am a little late to the party.
Let me tell everybody my opinion, so you can get a good read on me!

First we have Acrofales overreacting to a vote that didn't have a basis.

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He then votes for Mattchew.

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Lyter defends Acrofales.

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Then Mattchew, bad spelling in hand, attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales

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I really don't like that Mattchew attacks Lyter for defending Acrofales, who I think at this point is innocent. It also seems silly that Mattchew is 100% positive that Acrofales is innocent over one nooby overreaction. If you look at Mattchew's filter, you will see he only said something slightly helpful when he was asked to; everything else is just him attacking other people without any real reason.

For now, I think he is most likely to be scum.


On March 22 2012 06:13 MrZentor wrote:

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Ooooooo, a fun project to occupy my time while people post more things!


This post, especially the part in bold, made me think he was innocent. His reason for overreacting seems genuine.

Show nested quote +



He also deflects gumshoe's attack by clearly explaining his thought process and shows why he thinks gumshoe look scummy.

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Gumshoe skips the day post, says we should talk about policy, doesn't discuss policy, asks some questions, and then accuses the person who is easiest to attack, Acrofales.

My guess as to why he skipped the day post is that he got a powerful role(blue or scum) and was excited to use it. He is either a lazy townsperson with a powerful role or scum. Overall, I think he seems a little less scummy than Mattchew.



[/spoiler]

Next post. I will call it WIFOM: The Phantom Menace (yes, it is bad enough to get a new trilogy title).
I am going to try to follow your logic, but feel free to correct me if I err at some point.


On March 23 2012 23:08 Risen wrote:

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Unfortunately it does not, we don't know his sanity. If someone were to check you tonight and confirm then maybe it would.


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Policy vote the guy who posted huge swaths of analysis on players and is contributing? K. I wasn't 100% on mattchew, and after reading this post it's pretty much confirmed that acrofales is scum in my mind (or he's just a townie who's harming us more than he's worth). If you had bothered reading anything after my initial analysis (which I'm sure you did, and then just decided to not pay attention to because it helps make you look like you're contributing) you would know why I voted for Mattchew.


This is the only part that I can almost agree with, but I have already responded. It is your COMPLETE overreaction to my frustration at the number of retarded cases made against people. Most of your analysis was not as bad as risk.nuke's case against Greymist, or Sinensis' case against MrZentor, but you managed to spam up the entire thread with it, so I put you in the list. You then went WTFBBQ I DON'T WANT TO BE POLICY LYNCHED. While in the same post I proposed NOT to policy lynch, but lynch Mattchew instead.



After I posted my analysis on you, I posted this.


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Seems to be working in collusion with you, but you don't need him to be working with you in order for you to find a post that will allow you to change your mind.


I can't even follow this reasoning, but lets try.
Assume Acro is mafia.
If Acro is mafia, then he will change his mind about Mattchew.

There is SO much wrong with this. Firstly it only works if Mattchew is also mafia, because if he's not then why the hell would I bother changing my mind. Secondly you are WIFOMing that the only possible reason that I could change my mind about Mattchew is because I am mafia. EVEN if Mattchew is not mafia. WTF?!



Then I made this post.


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With supporting evidence in the form of...


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Which, to me, looks like someone scrambling to discredit me. Then again, someone who is town would be just as freaked out. My vote would still be on him had you not made that horrible, HORRIBLE post. How about instead of saying, oh hey his analysis is weak, you say, oh hey his analysis is weak for X, Y, Z reasons? I'll tell you why, because you're scum just looking to discredit me quickly. Yeah, I shit up the thread with all my posts and should have spoilered them into one post, but you're construing that as mafia play? You're attempting to say that someone who is posting analysis (whether I went about it in the correct manner) is playing scummy? Then what is town to you? Policy lynch someone who is posting analysis that can easily be looked back at day2,3, etc? Or lynch someone who is contributing nothing useful and is just tunneling the shit out of Mattchew (then calling out people who vote for him with "shoddy reasoning" that he never points out)...


What the fuck am I reading here?! Anyway, I need to post this now, so I will analyze this properly in the followup post in 10 minutes or so, but basically this is you getting stuck in your own convoluted WIFOM thinking. Please drink the cup with the poisoned wine. FOR ALL OUR SAKES.




I was wrong earlier. You don't need to get off Mattchew, you just need to start up the wagon a little bit and then discredit anyone who agrees that Mattchew's play was scummy. I think Mattchew overreacted to your focus on him if he's town and he's going to have to be looked at by someone. You can sit back and say, "oh I don't like your reasoning. You're doing that for the wrong reason." etc, etc, etc and bully people off of him and onto another wagon. So Mattchew, maybe you're town and acro is using you as his "oh I contributed and I'm covering my tracks by calling the other people who vote for him bad" it's an OMGUS waiting to happen (he actually did OMGUS me with his mentioned post). Then again, maybe you're scum and acro's plan for people to get off you isn't going to work out and you're lynched. I don't want to help acro in either of those situations, I want him dead. I think mattchew is a prime target for checking tonight, but not for lynching. As always, feel free to point out why you disagree with this post with a reasoned analysis. You'll note that I haven't called a single person out in this thread when they were suspicious of me if they had their opinion backed up. I probably messed up somewhere in here, and you can point out where I did so, and I can respond with a reasoned post explaining more thoroughly anything you have issue with. That's how town plays, that's how town wins. We post and post and post and explain ourselves until we see someone who's fucked up their web of lies.

Acro, your posting doesn't have any substance. That makes this an easy decision for me since I never actually placed my vote on Mattchew.

##vote Acrofales


Yeah, this will also be dealt with in the followup post.
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 Acrofales   Brazil. March 25 2012 08:01. Posts 5200
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On March 25 2012 07:59 layabout wrote:

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You are an idiot

Curu: why is Layabout still posting here. I think the rules say a single *polite* goodbye post. This is his second, impolite namecalling. Even if he's right.
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 Acrofales   Brazil. March 25 2012 08:02. Posts 5200
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Oh holy fucknuts. I screwed up the spoiler tags :S Please for the love of all that's holy, Curu, fix the spoiler tags?
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 wherebugsgo   United States. March 25 2012 08:03. Posts 7931
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On March 25 2012 07:55 MrZentor wrote:

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Leave the trolling to WBG.


Duuuuuuude don't be a killjoy, everyone can troll and be happy.

This IS Game of Trolls, anyway.
 
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 Acrofales   Brazil. March 25 2012 08:06. Posts 5200
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On March 25 2012 07:30 Risen wrote:
AFAIK I said anyone who jumped on Greymist for his joke is clearly acting scummy. No town player would do that. I then look at risk's post and say that Greymist did in fact have some scummy posting. Then when Greymist asks me if I think he's scum I say no, I do not think you are scum. Then layabout goes, lolderp imma vote greymist peace bitches. Clear scum move in my mind, instantly place my vote on him since people won't vote acro.

Feel free to point out anything I missed.

OMG YOU MADE SENSE. I am amazed and astounded.
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 Acrofales   Brazil. March 25 2012 08:07. Posts 5200
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HAHA I KID!

WBG: are you proud of me?
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 wherebugsgo   United States. March 25 2012 08:08. Posts 7931
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On March 25 2012 08:06 Acrofales wrote:

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OMG YOU MADE SENSE. I am amazed and astounded.


He said a few lines that people have been saying for days.

The fuck are you on?
 
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 wherebugsgo   United States. March 25 2012 08:10. Posts 7931
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I've been trolled

I can't believe this!

Do I win something now? I've made you all just like me!
 
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