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Jitsu
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I'll /in. | ||
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It's pretty awesome, and i'm only on the second? chapter. | ||
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On March 20 2012 18:13 Acrofales wrote: Are we allowed to speculate about what Littlefinger's win condition is? I have a hunch Unfortunately it has nothing to do with Dementors eating Daenerys baby in order to generate infinite facebook spam messages. Thanks for ruining the book. I enact a policy lynch on this guy first day, regardless if he's in the game or not. | ||
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On March 27 2012 01:13 risk.nuke wrote: You keep brining that game up as if it were a defense against you. I was supicious of you because you played scummy. Period. I don't know if it was part of your strategy in order to avoid beeing nightkilled by the mafia because you were a medic or something else but you were forced to roleclaim in order to not get lynched which means I wasn't tunneling you that game. You played poorly and I took notice of that which is a big difference. I know you are mafia. It's just a matter of time before I can convince the others of it, and I'm not in a rush. I play mafia with my focus on the endgame and you will not survive it so as far as I care, I consider you a lynched man walking. And I got several ideas of whom your scumbuddies might be. Why would you not be in a rush to convince others that you have found a scum? You find scum, you get the town to vote for him. Why don't you want to kill someone who you think is Mafia? | ||
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Risen was lynched and flipped Detective. He gave a red read and flipped Detective. The alignment Detective is guarenteed to be sane. We lynch Arcofales tomorrow. It doesn't matter if you think you have a better read on a better player. Our now dead detective out and out said that Arcofales is scum. He dies. | ||
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Shit is jokes. | ||
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I would be ok with lynching Alderan tomorrow. Guy gives me scumvibes. | ||
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I think you're Zealos read is pretty accurate. Especially the part where he calls Arco his #1 Top Scum Read. He only chose to put his vote on Arco after it was pretty apparent that he was going to die, one way or another. I'm not 100% sold on Xatalos yet. I think it's more a case of gullible, newbie town who is used to SC2 Mafia then TLMafia (where the real men hang), but it's up in the air. I'd much rather hang Alderan right now. Don't say while you are still alive. I have a feeling you will be alive tomorrow. Trust me. | ||
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Let’s look at the facts. Early on, chaoser strikes gold but randomly picking Arcofales for a lynch target. Yeah, it was random, but it was a good, lucky hit regardless. I looked back at the entire portion of the thread to see reactions from players. Some got aggressive at chaoser, which could be construed as Scum trying to soft-defend their bro by chainsawing chaoser for getting lucky. Among those is this post by Xatalos: + Show Spoiler + Oh, here come the random lynchers again From my experience in SC2 Mafia, random lynchers were usually Mafia (trying to get townies killed) or trolls. However, since I guess the skill level here is a bit higher, you might be just trying to reveal Mafia players by forcing them on the defensive. In any case: if my previous experiences have any value, chaoser and risk.nuke have a higher chance of being Mafia than town. The first thing I noted was the awkward placing of the smiley face. It may seem small, but it’s a gesture of “Hey, I’m accusing you of being bad, but doing take me too seriously.” He then says that, in his experience, random lynchers are usually Mafia or trolls. He deduces that chaoser and risk.nuke have a higher chance of being town then Mafia. That sets the basis. The only reason to set the standard of a joking townie is if you are waffling. Are you a waffle Xatalos? Maybe you are, but I think it’s more likely you are scum. In the end, he accuses chaoser and risk.nuke of having the highest chance, at that time, of being scum. Not a generally great deduction, but it’s a deduction none-the-less. + Show Spoiler + On March 21 2012 23:39 Xatalos wrote: Ah, damn it... No editing! However, I just thought that since you HAVE to vote every day, it might not be such a bad idea to throw random votes early. In my previous Mafia games it was common not to lynch anyone on the first day, and wait for clues on the second day. When people random lynched on the first day, it usually just meant an easier win for the Mafia. But with these rules, I don't think chaoser and risk.nuke are necessarily Mafia - it's very possible they are just aggressive town players (or trolls). risk.nuke's post at least seems more like a troll than a real accusation. Hmm.. Maybe I should also random vote. Several people are still lurking, so it would seem sensible to put the pressure on them Too bad Petyr is such a mystery, but seems like Mafia is the only possible target at this point. There is one post between this one, and the first one involved in this case. He literally changes his stance on everything, 100% reverse of what he said in the first post. Why? What happened between the two points? Did you have a revelation? Did someone outside of the thread tell you to stop wafflin’? With someone who claims to have a good amount of SC2 Mafia playtime, you sure do waffle a lot. + Show Spoiler + On March 22 2012 02:16 Xatalos wrote: We don't know his win condition, and we can't do anything to him, so I guess it would be best just to completely ignore him? The more he trolls the game, the easier time Mafia will have. The less of a presence he has, the easier it will be for town! The more I think about it, the first reaction of Acrofales is pretty suspicious... If there is no better candidate, he might be a good target. However, he could also have been just upset by the random votes as a beginner. But the reaction was a bit... strong, for a townie...? I didn't choose you for your player history or anything, gumshoe! In fact, I didn't even look at your profile I just dislike people who lurk and say nothing, and you were the first lurker I saw when I looked for lurkers - but you were just offline, so it's not really suspicious. I wonder if we should continue with the random votes...? It seems a bit counter-intuitive to me, but it seems to produce a lot of good data (reactions from the targets, and even other players!). On March 22 2012 02:28 Xatalos wrote: Any kind of information is good (this is a game of information, after all ) - such as information that increases or decreases the chances of someone being Mafia. There can never be 100% certainty, but since we have to vote every day, we will have to go by probabilities, and without information there can be no probabilities. We have already gathered a lot of info, but many (half?) of the players have talked next to nothing. Even if we lynched Acrofales as a "somewhat likely" Mafia, we would still want to gather more reactions before Saturday. Then, we come back to Xatalos pushing Acrofales. We know now that Acrofales was a scum player, but Xatalos thinks that Arcofales has a solid chance of being mafia now because of his self-defense of being random chosen by chaoser. He still doesn’t want to vote for lynching someone as “somewhat likely” mafia…why? Coming from a town point of view, why would you not want to vote for someone who presented themselves as “somewhat likely” Mafia? I’m not the best town player in the world, but I know that if I catch the smell of blood in the air, I’m going to go after it. I’m sure a great number of people here know me for tunneling, so you could probably vouch for it. So, where are we? Xatalos been wafflin’, says in a round-a-bout way that Acrofales looks “somewhat likely” Mafia, and then does what? + Show Spoiler + On March 21 2012 23:43 Xatalos wrote: ##Vote gumshoe On March 22 2012 02:38 Xatalos wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote OriginalName On March 22 2012 04:54 Xatalos wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote OriginalName On March 22 2012 04:54 Xatalos wrote: Damn it... ##Unvote ##Vote Nicolas On March 22 2012 17:44 Xatalos wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Mattchew On March 24 2012 01:55 Xatalos wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote gumshoe Doesn't even put any of his votes on him. Settles instead for someone with one other vote. Overall Posting History This Game: Unhelpful Lurky His filter is extremely easy to read through, and there isn’t much there that is helpful to pushing anything towards town. The thing that strikes out at me, is that even though he claims earlier that he might think Arcofales is “somewhat likely” Mafia, his overall agenda almost feels like he’s trying to keep him alive. Other than that, nothing stands out as exceptionally helpful towards a town-orientated goal, but that’s not saying anything much with the amount of filter I’ve seen so far. Previous Game Posting History No sample to take information from. Additional Points: - Twice, Xatalos presents possible doubt in his mind that Risen might be a Detective. Votes for him anyway. - Early game, places way too many smiles. Looks like he’s trying to hide his inherent guilt by doing dumb shit and pretending to be a jokester. - E’ryday we’re wafflin’. | ||
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Let the crisping commence. | ||
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On March 30 2012 03:29 Xatalos wrote: Okay... It looks like this day was a real mess (as well as day 2 to a lesser degree) so I hope day 4 will be the day where Mafia are finally figured out. I'm not still 100% confident on my own Mafia reads, but I'll post all my opinions and findings now, in case I get killed at the deadline. I'll go through every player with my opinions/notes as well as a verdict: good/medium/bad lynch. Good lynch: I'll vote for one of these if possible. Medium lynch: I'll vote for one of these if necessary not to get a bad lynch lynched. Bad lynch: I won't vote for one of these - I can't see them being Mafia. gumshoe: He's been my top lynch for a long time, but I don't think he's the best lynch anymore at this point. First of all, he has been inactive for a long time, so he'll probably get modkilled soon anyway. Second, as some others said before, his careless and bold posts don't fit the Mafia mindset very well. Very possibly he's just a noob who spoke what came to his mind, no matter how possibly suspicious. Verdict: Medium lynch. Zealos: Apparently some think he's suspicious, but I don't really see it. He's been very active, contributing and created a pro-town atmosphere. Unless I see something damning from him, I'm not willing to vote for him. Verdict: Bad lynch. Mattchew: I really didn't like his confusing and disruptive way to play on day 1, but in the end, he's been generating a lot of useful discussion. Also, I can't believe Mafia (Acrofales) would have focused so hard on getting a fellow Mafia player lynched... I'm not willing to vote for him anymore. Verdict: Bad lynch. risk.nuke: I was a bit suspicious of him after his first posts, but his later posts have been a lot more contributive. I'm not sold on either his innocence or guiltiness yet. Verdict: Medium lynch. Jitsu: OriginalName was a lurker, but Jitsu has contributed quite a bit after he took over. I haven't seen anything suspicious about him yet... Verdict: Bad lynch. Alderan: He hasn't contributed very much, but isn't really a lurker either. Not a very bad lynch choice, but not among the best. Verdict: Medium lynch. chaoser: Clearly has experience in playing, but hasn't contributed much, disregarding some of the more trivial discussion. A semi-lurker who doesn't look very pro-town, but not anti-town either. Verdict: Medium lynch. Lyter: Has contributed little and posted seldom. Something feels off, but not a top lynch yet. Verdict: Medium lynch. GreYMisT: Also an experienced player, but hasn't contributed much or often. Was the runner-up in day 1 lynch, but wasn't voted by even a single Mafia player. Both him and chaoser haven't done much to help town, but GreYMisT feels more suspicious to me. Verdict: Good lynch. sinensis: Doesn't look very interested in adding to the discussion, voting without much explanation or contribution. Apparently suspects evantrees mainly, but doesn't push his lynch other than voting for him. Verdict: Medium lynch. evantrees: A hardcore lurker without real contribution. Certainly feels a bit suspicious, but could also be a disinterested townie. Verdict: Medium lynch. So, I'll probably be voting for GreYMisT tomorrow if I can. I'm not going to bother to pick this apart. I only have two things to say. Under what circumstances would a Town player ever make a list of all the remaining people in the game and list the people that they think are "good lynches" or "bad lynches." and two, Xalatos, you claimed I was a bad lynch for several reasons, the main point being that I had solid contributions since the game started. Can you point those out to me and tell me why you think it's a solid enough contribution to town that I would be a "bad lynch?" Also, LOL at you implying that I am a better lynch target because I posted a case on you. Scum knee jerk reaction much? On March 30 2012 06:12 Sinensis wrote:Once evantress is dead I am lynching this guy, Xatalos. I doubt if anyone in thread can change my mind with any amount of posting. His early game wishy-washy-smiley style of posting made me suspicious, now this giant list of useless has me more suspicious because his "good-lynches" boil down to: - "Greymist hasn't contributed much or often and was the runner-up in day 1 lynch." Day 1 the town has ZERO information about anything, so basing a lynch off that info when we're this far into the game is stupid. Also, greymist has contributed more than the guy I am voting for if that's the criteria votes are being based on. Last, he wasn't even the runner-up day 1 as Xatalos said, so I'm not sure why he said it. - He also says gumshoe has been his top lynch for a long time, but has other priorities right now instead (read: greymist). If your priorities are preserving town numbers and eliminating mafia, you should probably follow my example. | ||
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It's fitting, trust me. | ||
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You seem to be tunneling him fairly hard and want him dead, yet the only case I've seen in your filter is directed to Risen. Care to share your thoughts on why GreyMist should be dying tonight? Also, what do you think of my case on Xatalos? | ||
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Also Zealos, what do you think of my case on Xatalos? | ||
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