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| xfaded United States. March 20 2012 13:11. Posts 6 | Profile # |
| Mundo with Atmas and now the MoM would be kinda op imo. Only time will tell... |
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 RaiD.RaynoR United States. March 20 2012 13:12. Posts 284 | Profile # |
| Man these patches keep nerfing unnecessary things and keeping imbalanced things. I was about to let it go until I saw blue buff nerf... what the fuck...? Why would they do such a thing. |
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| Slusher United States. March 20 2012 13:13. Posts 2442 | Profile Blog # |
| If you remove the buff from Baron it would be too risky to ever kill him just for the global gold, it is alot, but he chunks you pretty good unless you are lvl18 and don't forget lifesteal was nerfed this patch. |
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| dookudooku March 20 2012 13:15. Posts 225 | Profile # |
On March 20 2012 13:10 dooraven wrote:
Woah, this blue buff nerf hurts Anivia pretty hard :/
Not really sure what Riot was thinking to be honest, yes it was stong but all this does is make Mana dependent casters and junglers significantly weaker.
Also Riot, the reason why Supports are always first picked is because counter picking is really strong in this game vs solos.
It doesn't affect the laning and jungling as much as you think, since you still have the flat +25 mana regen bonus. However, it does reduce late-game sustain and pushing power, and it gives people a stronger incentive to buy +mana/mana regen items. |
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| Eiii United States. March 20 2012 13:16. Posts 1533 | Profile Blog # |
| I wish they would hit the CDR on blue buff instead of the mana regen, just to make CDR a more interesting stat to consider when buying for mids. |
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| dookudooku March 20 2012 13:18. Posts 225 | Profile # |
On March 20 2012 13:12 RaiD.RaynoR wrote:
Man these patches keep nerfing unnecessary things and keeping imbalanced things. I was about to let it go until I saw blue buff nerf... what the fuck...? Why would they do such a thing.
The things they nerfed were making games boring to watch. I know I've watched less recently because more often than not, the wins the team fight @ 25 mins just goes on to take down a bunch of towers and inhibs in the next 5 minutes. |
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| arb Noobville. March 20 2012 13:25. Posts 11089 | Profile Blog # |
On March 20 2012 11:49 valheru wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 11:43 beefhamburger wrote:
I wonder who else the new MoM item will be good on other than Mundo. Maybe Poppy with her passive and Fiora right before she uses her ult and lifesteals.
And I love the artwork, looks devastate. Hope it's as good when put in action.
This patch seems to have tons of quality of life fixes which can only be a good thing.
Possibly trynd since his Q does the same thing but ehh not sure.
Think it'll be good on Riven, looking forward to testing it out |
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| Slusher United States. March 20 2012 13:27. Posts 2442 | Profile Blog # |
On March 20 2012 13:25 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 11:49 valheru wrote:
On March 20 2012 11:43 beefhamburger wrote:
I wonder who else the new MoM item will be good on other than Mundo. Maybe Poppy with her passive and Fiora right before she uses her ult and lifesteals.
And I love the artwork, looks devastate. Hope it's as good when put in action.
This patch seems to have tons of quality of life fixes which can only be a good thing.
Possibly trynd since his Q does the same thing but ehh not sure.
Think it'll be good on Riven, looking forward to testing it out
If I'm playing a burst mage mid, I'd rather the Bruiser bought a Veil than this item. It just sounds so strong, and unlike veil you have to commit to pop it. |
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| dooraven Australia. March 20 2012 13:28. Posts 1873 | Profile # |
| Oh wow they nerfed heal too, Not a good patch for non sustain supports. |
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| stink123 United States. March 20 2012 13:28. Posts 176 | Profile # | |
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| Kaneh Canada. March 20 2012 13:30. Posts 315 | Profile # |
On March 20 2012 13:28 dooraven wrote:
Oh wow they nerfed heal too, Not a good patch for non sustain supports.
buy more hp pots. they're overpowered. |
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| beefhamburger United States. March 20 2012 13:32. Posts 1822 | Profile # |
yayyy multiple polymorphs!
Sooooo, you can use Help, Pix! on an enemy and then just auto attack minions and they take undodgeable damage they can't get away from? Sounds awesome (if not too strong).Last edit: 2012-03-20 13:34:51 |
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| nyxnyxnyx Indonesia. March 20 2012 13:35. Posts 1159 | Profile # |
my list of underappreciated/secret OP champs:
nocturne
viktor
warwick
edit: forgot wwLast edit: 2012-03-20 17:37:16 |
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| WaveofShadow Canada. March 20 2012 13:37. Posts 5269 | Profile Blog # |
"Though Lulu is a support, I play her as a jungler."
Well done, Phreak. |
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| Kenpachi United States. March 20 2012 13:40. Posts 9008 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Ryuu314 United States. March 20 2012 13:40. Posts 5315 | Profile # |
On March 20 2012 13:16 Eiii wrote:
I wish they would hit the CDR on blue buff instead of the mana regen, just to make CDR a more interesting stat to consider when buying for mids.
they did talk about changing the way mid lane works and like i expected, they did that via blue buff nerf. blue buff was too strong to begin with and I feel that this mana regen nerf was definitely warranted, but they should lower the cdr too so itemizing cdr isn't so worthless. |
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| r.Evo Germany. March 20 2012 13:44. Posts 5208 | Profile # |
On March 20 2012 13:37 WaveofShadow wrote:"Though Lulu is a support, I play her as a jungler." Well done, Phreak.
He also said SIGNIFICANT damage. What the hell. =( |
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| Craton United States. March 20 2012 13:45. Posts 10180 | Profile Blog # |
The thing is, Janna didn't need a nerf in any shape or form. She's always been the most balanced support for as long as I've been playing.
People picked her because the other supports have really been beat hard. Soraka is still really strong, but she struggles really hard against kill lanes, especially those containing Leona. Sona was probably overnerfed, but her early damage was far too high. They need to compensate a little in other areas. Taric imo just has a problematic kit. Alistar is still quite strong, and obviously there's the rise of Nunu who amplifies your AD carry such a ridiculous amount (probably too much).
Hard to say what affect the Blue nerf will really have on gameplay. Maybe it'll reign in the big abuses like Swain/Anivia, but we'll see.
Viktor should definitely be seeing a lot of play. His ult already does too much damage and now that you can out-trade thanks to the shield, his laning should be quite powerful.
Irelia probably overnerfed. Hurts her already shitty early laning without having much affect on her later game that's too strong.
How'd they take this long to change Olaf's tooltip?
Rammus changes probably won't affect much, but it'll still be obnoxious to play around.
Shaco definitely not nerfed hard enough. Need to nerf the kit (deceive range/stealth duration/bonus crit, etc.) if you want to reign him in.
Shen definitely not nerfed hard enough. Ult needs to be given a range like all other global ults that teleport.
Shyv just needs a small nerf to her W and she'll be balanced.
MoM should be very good for AD casters like Renekton, as well as the obvious Mundo.
Getting really tired of junglers being nerfed because of lane abuses, but not sure how they can fix that problem.
Not sure how much the heal nerf will change things. |
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| JBright Canada. March 20 2012 13:46. Posts 3778 | Profile # |
On March 20 2012 13:44 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 13:37 WaveofShadow wrote:"Though Lulu is a support, I play her as a jungler." Well done, Phreak.
He also said SIGNIFICANT damage. What the hell. =(
He did say tons of punishment for the Maokai gank. He's just trying to mix us up. |
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| gtrsrs United States. March 20 2012 13:49. Posts 4414 | Profile # |
great patch imo
>blitz buff is perfectly in line with what he needs. a landed hook should spell death for enemy, since it's such a hard skillshot. great buff.
>fiora - wgaf, she's a garbage champ, she needs way more than this to be playable
>garen - excellent, anyone who watched my stream during my garen-spamming days knows how much i hated about this bug (and all the entertaining rage it created for my viewers back then  )
>irelia - more of a nerf than i thought, THANK GOD. she might be beatable now, MAYBE.
>janna - definitely not something that affects how i play her, but i can see why better janna players than myself would be outraged at this. BUT i think this will force you into building janna somewhat AP instead of standard support, which is a good thing imo
>jax - see fiora
>rammus - ok
>rumble - i hope the "fix" was that the 6 item slots are now completely randomized. this would probably be more accurate anyway, as you can literally build anything on rumble and pentakill with his ult
>shen got hit so hard. they basically buffed him to a playable level (which everyone considered an overbuff) and in the span of what, one patch, have nerfed him to irrelevancy again? thank god i didn't spend any time making/updating a new shen guide
this, combined with irelia nerfs (one of ww's other hardest matchups beside shen) should make ww the unquestioned king of top lane again. full circle, i guess? i am, of course, not counting bullshit no-mana-cost assholes like rumble kennen vlad ryze etc
>shyvana nerf not really needed, but i don't think they'll greatly effect how i play her. i do think i noticed burnout lasting way too long at some points, hopefully this will prevent me from stealing blue accidentally from my mids now. would rather just have a playability fix that second W toggles off your burnout tbh
>victor is going to be overpowered if they keep buffing him, actually he might already be, but who cares
i'm really glad that you guys are all viewing the new item in a blah/underpowered sort of light, because i think it fills a fantastic niche and i can see myself buying it on pretty much any champ that scales well off of AD and gets in peoples faces. lee/panth/shyvana/mundo/riven are all gonna love this item, finally gives you a reason to build hexdrinker against double AP
blue buff nerfs are a good thing, let me justify taking blue on skarner instead of giving it to my mid, ty good-guy riot
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