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 GeckoVOD Germany. April 13 2012 05:27. Posts 814 | Profile Blog # |
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Can you please go back to the event itself rather than what just happened there? Last edit: 2012-04-13 05:28:46 |
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| krndandaman Mozambique. April 13 2012 05:40. Posts 4450 | Profile Blog # |
Original Message From TL.net Bot: This is a Warning!
Show nested quote +hey chocolate
for a swiss guy (who are normally very chill and cool) you're a very angry guy who thinks hes good
you kinda remind me of idra. without the skill and american pride of course
good luck in the group stages (if you make it to there but i think you will since you take this game so seriously) you'll need it
don't poopflingderail Thanks in advance for your cooperation, Pholon (Do not reply to this message. No one will receive it.)
wat. i swear i was only following orders |
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| CaffeineFree-_- United States. April 13 2012 05:48. Posts 641 | Profile Blog # |
| Wow you got warned for that? Laugh out loud much? -.- |
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| Jealous United States. April 13 2012 08:05. Posts 2347 | Profile Blog # |
Was working for me  |
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| Shimy United States. April 13 2012 09:10. Posts 683 | Profile Blog # |
Ok, I'm back from work.
I thought this whole thing was put to rest lol Anyway, I attempted to take in what everyone has had to say and have come up with this.
Kiante, I really respect you and appreciate you for what you do in the BW scene. I disagree how you feel it's an advantage for NoisE to play on a smurf and I fail to see how that is a loss of integrity on my part. I do, however, appreciate your interest in my tournament and hope that this fiasco has not made you turn up your nose to it.
If you wish to question or discuss the matter more, I feel like it's a better choice to directly message me for detailed reasons. If I reply to your question in a way that doesn't satisfy you, then I only see it just to be brought up in a public area such as this. Thank you.
To everyone else: Since people don't see the reason for the smurf, I expect you all not to dodge. I have directly seen dodging and have made note of it. You know who you are. Also, I appreciate Eywa and Game replying and arguing my case, but this is something that Kiante has with me. So if it ever has to do with organization, I ask that you tell the person to PM me or email me 
Now that this is all out of the way, let's get to serious matters: Dsyxelic took the #1 spot on the ladder! Congratz to him!
Also, there are now 14 people who are yellow ranks on the ladder! This is awesome! One thing I was hoping to experience in this ladder is the ranking system when only playing against your fellow yellow ranks. I am very pleased to see 37-35 records and 44-29 records. A lot of people forget that they are playing people that they would normally dodge until they get C ranks. The cool thing is that you are forced to play people that you have an equal skill level with and you should not not be discouraged to go on losing streaks or anything like that. Jealous is someone who I envy a lot. He is able to lose some games, bounce back, and win some games. He never gets discouraged because he knows who he's actually playing against - the best yellow ranks. He's not using this tourney as a proving ground, but an improving ground. He's definitely a better player because of it and I respect him because of it :D
Anyway, good luck to you all and let's just leave the smurf thing to PM's! Thanks! Have a wonderful afternoon
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| Jealous United States. April 13 2012 09:17. Posts 2347 | Profile Blog # |
Yo Shimy, you Jealous bro??
JK, thanks Shimy xD I beat Wands today! Even though I lost the next game against him and then 3 more against others, it's a win like that once in a while that keeps me going ^^ Even getting a really close match that I may screw up (like vs. zimp or fold) counts. I second the notion that no one should just give up - everyone should play to get better, not necessarily win (the ladder stage)!Last edit: 2012-04-13 10:05:32 |
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| krndandaman Mozambique. April 13 2012 09:21. Posts 4450 | Profile Blog # |
On the smurf thing, i wholly agree with kiante on principle but i dont think it matters in this case. Though if anything, the only valid reason is that noise is the main sponsor and quite frankly deseves the right to do nearly whatever. Personally idc cause i dont even care to watch reps, not even my own lol.
on another note, i find it interesting how i have same losses and 19 less wins than wands but more points power of motw? |
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| ninazerg United States. April 13 2012 09:23. Posts 1952 | Profile Blog # |
On April 13 2012 04:29 Kiante wrote:
defamation? Lol? how is that even a valid argument. I'm following a thread of a tournament I want to watch, and i see something going on that i dont agree with so i raise it in a public forum? Suddenly this is defamation? I'm not stating anything false to my knowledge, and I think it's important that tournaments have integrity. if we just let bullshit slide because someone is sponsoring then the tournament result because invalid, and it detracts from my own enjoyment of watching it, hence why i'm raising this issue here...on a public forum.
"doing it for Brood War" is exactly what i'm doing. just because proleague is switching to sc2 doesn't mean we suddenly have to accept sillyness. if anything, we need to fight against it. once tournaments get compromised by biased treatment of players based on arbitrary bullshit like "i played in gc so people could go study my playstyle if they wanted to" while others are denied the same right, the issue should at least be raised, rather than calling me out for defamation of character or some bullshit lol.
Here's how things work here in North America:
Eywa posts something. Someone raises an objection: DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER, slander, hurting ESPORTS, your argument is invalid.
You post something. Eywa raises an objection: It is a legitimate concern. Take notes, kids. |
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| Zergneedsfood United States. April 13 2012 09:29. Posts 5387 | Profile Blog # |
| I won one game. I'm on way to making it to top 28 yo! |
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| ninazerg United States. April 13 2012 09:31. Posts 1952 | Profile Blog # |
On April 13 2012 09:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:I won one game. I'm on way to making it to top 28 yo!
Teach me your ways ;-; |
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| Zergneedsfood United States. April 13 2012 09:47. Posts 5387 | Profile Blog # |
| Play Terran. Most OP race yo. |
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| Jealous United States. April 13 2012 10:06. Posts 2347 | Profile Blog # |
| Plus just overtook dsyxelic on ladder O: |
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| Game April 13 2012 10:47. Posts 3057 | Profile Blog # |
On April 13 2012 09:21 krndandaman wrote:
Personally idc cause i dont even care to watch reps, not even my own lol.
Not trolling: this is probably the reason you are C rank. |
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| Shotcoder United States. April 13 2012 10:53. Posts 1452 | Profile Blog # |
| Edit: Talk to Shimy Last edit: 2012-04-13 11:54:48 |
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| Reclusive United States. April 13 2012 10:58. Posts 84 | Profile Blog # |
Someone please come on and play with me.
1 HR left before library close.
My thought on the tournament. So far it's been fun. Too bad we don't all live in the same time zones.
As for the Drama..Zzzzzzzz
Edit: Sadly No one came on and play with me.
Last edit: 2012-04-13 11:42:03 |
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 Kiante Australia. April 13 2012 11:22. Posts 6411 | Profile Blog # |
On April 13 2012 10:53 Shotcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 09:23 ninazerg wrote:
On April 13 2012 04:29 Kiante wrote:
defamation? Lol? how is that even a valid argument. I'm following a thread of a tournament I want to watch, and i see something going on that i dont agree with so i raise it in a public forum? Suddenly this is defamation? I'm not stating anything false to my knowledge, and I think it's important that tournaments have integrity. if we just let bullshit slide because someone is sponsoring then the tournament result because invalid, and it detracts from my own enjoyment of watching it, hence why i'm raising this issue here...on a public forum.
"doing it for Brood War" is exactly what i'm doing. just because proleague is switching to sc2 doesn't mean we suddenly have to accept sillyness. if anything, we need to fight against it. once tournaments get compromised by biased treatment of players based on arbitrary bullshit like "i played in gc so people could go study my playstyle if they wanted to" while others are denied the same right, the issue should at least be raised, rather than calling me out for defamation of character or some bullshit lol.
Here's how things work here in North America: Eywa posts something. Someone raises an objection: DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER, slander, hurting ESPORTS, your argument is invalid. You post something. Eywa raises an objection: It is a legitimate concern. Take notes, kids.
I have nothing against you nina, but this was a blatant attack on Me by Harem and Kiante on Shimy. It wasn't an issue until they decided to make it one. So I don't understand why 2-3 people are so butt hurt about it. Especially one person who has little to no connection to the Foreign Scene and one who has essentially given up on the ladder.
I'm sorry but what the fuck are you on about noise? At what part was harem involved in this at all? rofl. Moreover, how was this a personal attack on you? I raised a criticism of how the issue was handled and you freak out instead of growing up and simply responding to the criticisms. you and eywa both have shown such immaturity in dealing with this issue that it really just boggles my mind.
btw who is the "little to no connection to the foreign scene" and who "has essentially given up on the ladder"
i honestly dont know how you're trying to bash me at this point, but you're taking what should be a pretty simple case of "well add more rules/transparency into smurfing in the future" into some kind of personal vendetta that literally doesn't exist. |
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| Shotcoder United States. April 13 2012 11:40. Posts 1452 | Profile Blog # |
| Edit: Talk to Shimy Last edit: 2012-04-13 11:54:31 |
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| Kiante Australia. April 13 2012 11:46. Posts 6411 | Profile Blog # |
On April 13 2012 11:40 Shotcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 11:22 Kiante wrote:
On April 13 2012 10:53 Shotcoder wrote:
On April 13 2012 09:23 ninazerg wrote:
On April 13 2012 04:29 Kiante wrote:
defamation? Lol? how is that even a valid argument. I'm following a thread of a tournament I want to watch, and i see something going on that i dont agree with so i raise it in a public forum? Suddenly this is defamation? I'm not stating anything false to my knowledge, and I think it's important that tournaments have integrity. if we just let bullshit slide because someone is sponsoring then the tournament result because invalid, and it detracts from my own enjoyment of watching it, hence why i'm raising this issue here...on a public forum.
"doing it for Brood War" is exactly what i'm doing. just because proleague is switching to sc2 doesn't mean we suddenly have to accept sillyness. if anything, we need to fight against it. once tournaments get compromised by biased treatment of players based on arbitrary bullshit like "i played in gc so people could go study my playstyle if they wanted to" while others are denied the same right, the issue should at least be raised, rather than calling me out for defamation of character or some bullshit lol.
Here's how things work here in North America: Eywa posts something. Someone raises an objection: DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER, slander, hurting ESPORTS, your argument is invalid. You post something. Eywa raises an objection: It is a legitimate concern. Take notes, kids.
I have nothing against you nina, but this was a blatant attack on Me by Harem and Kiante on Shimy. It wasn't an issue until they decided to make it one. So I don't understand why 2-3 people are so butt hurt about it. Especially one person who has little to no connection to the Foreign Scene and one who has essentially given up on the ladder.
I'm sorry but what the fuck are you on about noise? At what part was harem involved in this at all? rofl. Moreover, how was this a personal attack on you? I raised a criticism of how the issue was handled and you freak out instead of growing up and simply responding to the criticisms. you and eywa both have shown such immaturity in dealing with this issue that it really just boggles my mind. btw who is the "little to no connection to the foreign scene" and who "has essentially given up on the ladder" i honestly dont know how you're trying to bash me at this point, but you're taking what should be a pretty simple case of "well add more rules/transparency into smurfing in the future" into some kind of personal vendetta that literally doesn't exist.
What the fuck is your problem? You say I'm bashing you when I never once said a negative word about you. I see that pen next to your name has given you more balls than you deserve. Maybe you should go read what I said, see who banned me, and see who has trolled me about BM in the past and maybe you'll see the connections in my post rather than shitting on mine and Eywa's names. Idk about me but I know Eywa has done much more for this community than you can even claim to and yet you bash him why? Because he stands by Shimy's decision? Because he provides and you sit there and shit on people? Dude you're a fucking troll and need to learn when to shut the fuck up. I don't know what your motives are but at this point it's blatantly obvious it's NOT the "add more rules/transparency into smurfing in the future". At this point I'm going to ask we move this to PM or I'm going to end up getting perm banned.
Lol? You accused me of a blatant attack on you. that's entirely false. This has nothing to do with my pen and your silly insults based upon it are completely baseless. You got banned because YOU"RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ALT ACCOUNTS ON TL. I dont know if you read the rules when you signed up the first time but it's not hard to understand. you made an alt account, you trolled the thread, then you got figured out and banned. why is it even relevant that harem did it?
I'm not bashing eywa, i'm not bashing you. I was raising a concern over smurfing happening in a tournament, and moreover that there were decisions made about who could smurf, without rules being specified in the thread, and with most people in the ladder not even knowing that there were smurfs to compete with. I pm'd shimy the concerns i raised in this thread and he agreed with me in terms of greater transparency so honestly, that was my only concern in this thread. you're the one who's taken to personal attacks on me, insulting me based on practically nothing, as i simply tried to speak up for the people playing in your tournament. Holy moly batman, the world isn't out to get you. |
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| i am plus United States. April 13 2012 11:48. Posts 110 | Profile # |
| insted of flooding the asl thread about this why dont u pm each other -_- |
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