| dignitasNewmaN Sweden. March 23 2012 22:45. Posts 137 | Profile # |
Prize distribution at Dreamhack has "always" been quite horribly top heavy, not sure why to be fair as they know about the criticism and just because the invitationals where even worse doesn't make it excusable.
Paying out to atleast the top 8 or 16 should be possible in my opinion.Last edit: 2012-03-24 01:11:29 |
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| marcesr Germany. March 23 2012 23:28. Posts 967 | Profile # |
On March 23 2012 22:45 dignitasNewmaN wrote: Prize distribution at Dreamhack has "always" been quite horibbly top heavy, not sure why to be fair as they know about the criticism and just because the invitationals where even worse doesn't make it excusable.
Paying out to atleast the top 8 or 16 should be possible in my opinion.
Yeah absolutely.
The venue looks fantastic, I really do hope that it will be as awesome as the Dreamhack Winter Arena and that we have a huge crowd! Gogo Sweden!
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| Kreb March 23 2012 23:41. Posts 2061 | Profile # |
Well, the invitationals started at Ro8, and it makes sense to force some kind of effort to get into the money. Paying both 1st and 2nd there would possibly have made more sense than only winner, but I dont think you can start paying Ro4 or Ro8 when they start at Ro8. There has to be some effort involved.
But yea, with 128ppl I dont see why Top8 shouldnt be rewarded. There will be a lot of fluff in the bracket no doubt, so paying top 16 or 32 shouldnt be necessary only because its a big bracket, but players making it past two group stages and one Ro16 game should definitely be rewarded imo.Last edit: 2012-03-23 23:45:52 |
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| Heimatloser Germany. March 24 2012 00:12. Posts 1492 | Profile # |
| i dont understand... so i can pay money if want to support dreamhack, but dreamhack wont ever take my money but give it to some random person? so i will not support dreamhack? so why should i pay? |
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| Legace Sweden. March 24 2012 00:38. Posts 341 | Profile # |
On March 24 2012 00:12 Heimatloser wrote: i dont understand... so i can pay money if want to support dreamhack, but dreamhack wont ever take my money but give it to some random person? so i will not support dreamhack? so why should i pay?
If by some random person you mean one of the players participating, then yes. |
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| Marou Korea (South). March 24 2012 01:22. Posts 998 | Profile Blog # |
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| Finrod1 Germany. March 24 2012 01:29. Posts 3601 | Profile # |
Yeah. Just loving DH!  |
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| Waterflow Sweden. March 24 2012 01:36. Posts 1313 | Profile # |
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| MVTaylor United Kingdom. March 24 2012 01:38. Posts 2773 | Profile Blog # |
On March 23 2012 01:25 DreamHack wrote:
DreamHack Open Prize money distribution SEK 150 000
1. SEK 70 000 +Direct Qualification to DreamHack Winter 2012 2. SEK 40 000 +Direct Qualification to DreamHack Winter 2012 3. SEK 20 000 +20 points 4. SEK 20 000 +20 points 5-8. 12 points 9-16. 5 points
Take 10K from First and Second place and 5K from Third and Fourth. Then:
1. SEK 60 000 2. SEK 30 000 3. SEK 15 000 4. SEK 15 000 5-8. SEK 5 000 9-16. SEK 2 500
Or if there is actually a third / fourth place play off then take 2 500 SEK from Fourth and give it to Third. I do not understand this let's not play Third place matches mentality in some tourneys when you already have the players there and will already be paying them. The 3rd place match at IEM Kiev between Kas and Zenio was the best match of the tournament.Last edit: 2012-03-24 01:41:34 |
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| 126Q;A1 Sweden. March 24 2012 01:48. Posts 257 | Profile # |
On March 23 2012 15:47 sc14s wrote: Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 01:50 Eee wrote:Here's a picture of the venue where the event is going to be held at: ![[image loading]](http://www.idrottensaffarer.se/files/imagecache/image_large/story_image_large/Globen_0.jpg)
what the hell do you play in that globe?? BLITZBALL!?
Haha, I wish :D
On March 23 2012 20:52 DarKFoRcE wrote:128 player tournament... top4 gets paid, as if sc2 didnt have enough variance already  also, why give all donations to ONE player instead of distributing it according to voting percentages for example? (and discard everything below 1% or w/e else is too small to make it practical).
Agree with both points - I really dislike this kind of prize distribution and the fan award thing is pretty silly as well. If you can't raise enough money to pay at least the top 16 (preferably far more in this case) then I'm not sure how you can expect to fill 128 slots with paying participants. |
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| flagg Sweden. March 24 2012 01:52. Posts 119 | Profile # |
On March 24 2012 01:38 MVTaylor wrote: Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 01:25 DreamHack wrote:
DreamHack Open Prize money distribution SEK 150 000
1. SEK 70 000 +Direct Qualification to DreamHack Winter 2012 2. SEK 40 000 +Direct Qualification to DreamHack Winter 2012 3. SEK 20 000 +20 points 4. SEK 20 000 +20 points 5-8. 12 points 9-16. 5 points
Take 10K from First and Second place and 5K from Third and Fourth. Then: 1. SEK 60 000 2. SEK 30 000 3. SEK 15 000 4. SEK 15 000 5-8. SEK 5 000 9-16. SEK 2 500 Or if there is actually a third / fourth place play off then take 2 500 SEK from Fourth and give it to Third. I do not understand this let's not play Third place matches mentality in some tourneys when you already have the players there and will already be paying them. The 3rd place match at IEM Kiev between Kas and Zenio was the best match of the tournament.
Of course this is what they should do and I hope they can/want to change it.
Sadly people keep talking about how much the winner got and not about the total pricepool as they should. Dreamhack is leading the way in many areas but in this case they are sadly the worst. |
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| Sablar Sweden. March 24 2012 02:44. Posts 803 | Profile Blog # |
Awesome. Been to annexet a few times for concerts and it's a good arena, not huge but pretty big Also free HD stream is great. |
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| CloudMage Canada. March 24 2012 03:41. Posts 133 | Profile # |
| This looks awesome! Free HD stream?! Heck yes! |
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| ClysmiC United States. March 24 2012 03:42. Posts 1947 | Profile Blog # | |
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| robih Austria. March 24 2012 03:45. Posts 958 | Profile # |
so if i want to participate, which pass do i have to buy?
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| CloudMage Canada. March 24 2012 03:48. Posts 133 | Profile # |
On March 23 2012 15:47 sc14s wrote: Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 01:50 Eee wrote:Here's a picture of the venue where the event is going to be held at: ![[image loading]](http://www.idrottensaffarer.se/files/imagecache/image_large/story_image_large/Globen_0.jpg)
what the hell do you play in that globe?? BLITZBALL!?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL you sir, are awesome. |
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| MVTaylor United Kingdom. March 24 2012 04:19. Posts 2773 | Profile Blog # |
On March 24 2012 01:52 flagg wrote: Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 01:38 MVTaylor wrote: On March 23 2012 01:25 DreamHack wrote:
DreamHack Open Prize money distribution SEK 150 000
1. SEK 70 000 +Direct Qualification to DreamHack Winter 2012 2. SEK 40 000 +Direct Qualification to DreamHack Winter 2012 3. SEK 20 000 +20 points 4. SEK 20 000 +20 points 5-8. 12 points 9-16. 5 points
Take 10K from First and Second place and 5K from Third and Fourth. Then: 1. SEK 60 000 2. SEK 30 000 3. SEK 15 000 4. SEK 15 000 5-8. SEK 5 000 9-16. SEK 2 500 Or if there is actually a third / fourth place play off then take 2 500 SEK from Fourth and give it to Third. I do not understand this let's not play Third place matches mentality in some tourneys when you already have the players there and will already be paying them. The 3rd place match at IEM Kiev between Kas and Zenio was the best match of the tournament.
Of course this is what they should do and I hope they can/want to change it. Sadly people keep talking about how much the winner got and not about the total pricepool as they should. Dreamhack is leading the way in many areas but in this case they are sadly the worst.
Yeah, if you look at who finished 9-16th at DH summer and winter last year you have names such as: Sheth, Seiplo, Naama, Brat_OK and even a guy who I've never heard of called PredY. Just giving them something for getting to the RO16 seems reasonable to me as I want to see all these players making some money for it so more players stay in SC2 and can make a career out of it rather than ALL the money going to the same few people. It's why I like the set up of IEM so much. |
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| iiGreetings Canada. March 24 2012 05:40. Posts 546 | Profile # |
| WOW this is going to be awesome for sure, looking forward to it!! |
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| Jaegeru United Kingdom. March 24 2012 05:59. Posts 651 | Profile # |
| wow, that arena looks fucking awesome GJ dreamhack! |
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| Nomili Norway. March 24 2012 07:54. Posts 20 | Profile # | |
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