Blizzard negotiating SC2 with KeSPA directly - Page 37

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On March 26 2012 04:54 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:


Blizzard whats a global scene, I do not see how Blizzard is talking to KeSPA in order to achieve that goal. More Korean tournaments means less reason for Korean players to leave Korea. Not saying this is bad, but I don't see how Blizzard is talking to KeSPA in order to improve SC2's global stance.

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On March 25 2012 02:34 MetalLobster wrote:
I don't see why they have to eliminate BW

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On March 26 2012 04:54 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:


Blizzard whats a global scene, I do not see how Blizzard is talking to KeSPA in order to achieve that goal. More Korean tournaments means less reason for Korean players to leave Korea. Not saying this is bad, but I don't see how Blizzard is talking to KeSPA in order to improve SC2's global stance.

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On March 26 2012 03:19 []Phase[] wrote:
I don't wanna start the whole sc VS LoL stuff but could anyone explain to me WHY LoL is so popular? and I mean popular as in watching it, not playing it. (I dont think LoL is a bad game, but for WATCHING it seems kind of boring, I dunno) Enlighten me in a PM if you have an answer.

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Almost nobody is playing BW anymore

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On March 26 2012 06:12 fabiano wrote:

In Korea, the only place where eSports is actually somehow relevant in their culture/society, BW is still very very popular, according with our own korean fellow TLers, unlike SC2 which is basically about to die without ever being big.

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On March 26 2012 05:36 palexhur wrote:


Blizzard is interested in selling SC2 copies in Korea, simple as that, you can see that Korea was the most important country for SC:BW sellings, so stock holders of Activision must be asking what happened with SC2 in Korea.

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On March 26 2012 06:31 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:


Not at all, Blizzard couldn't care less about sold copies of Sc2. What they want is something that will last and provide some income in the long run, such as Starcraft 2 being a successful, huge eSports.

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On March 26 2012 06:31 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:


Not at all, Blizzard couldn't care less about sold copies of Sc2. What they want is something that will last and provide some income in the long run, such as Starcraft 2 being a successful, huge eSports.

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On March 26 2012 05:49 Talin wrote:


As much as people love seeing these things as "sports", they are still freaking video games. Even though BW kinda, for a while, managed to reach the audience outside of its actual playerbase, it's an exception rather than a rule and it was incredibly circumstantial to begin with. No game will repeat that feat in this day and age.

You only survive as long as you have a ton of people playing the game. Almost nobody is playing BW any more, and numbers for SC2 are in clear decline as well. Millions of people play LoL on nearly daily basis. Bottom line is, for the most part competitive gaming is being watched by gamers that have an interest in the said game - as that interest fades, so does the audience.

A freaking marketing miracle would need to happen for either of the Starcrafts to compete in viewers in the near future, for the long term. LoL has a healthier playerbase, and sponsors don't give a shit what the game is about or how skill based it is - it's much easier to pick up and sponsor game that's already hyperpopular, than carry games that aren't doing well to begin with to popularity. For all they care, Minecraft could be their premium game.

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On March 26 2012 05:49 Talin wrote:


As much as people love seeing these things as "sports", they are still freaking video games. Even though BW kinda, for a while, managed to reach the audience outside of its actual playerbase, it's an exception rather than a rule and it was incredibly circumstantial to begin with. No game will repeat that feat in this day and age.

You only survive as long as you have a ton of people playing the game. Almost nobody is playing BW any more, and numbers for SC2 are in clear decline as well. Millions of people play LoL on nearly daily basis. Bottom line is, for the most part competitive gaming is being watched by gamers that have an interest in the said game - as that interest fades, so does the audience.

A freaking marketing miracle would need to happen for either of the Starcrafts to compete in viewers in the near future, for the long term. LoL has a healthier playerbase, and sponsors don't give a shit what the game is about or how skill based it is - it's much easier to pick up and sponsor game that's already hyperpopular, than carry games that aren't doing well to begin with to popularity. For all they care, Minecraft could be their premium game.

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On March 26 2012 07:59 snailz wrote:


bullshit.

if blizzard was as smart as you paint them out to be, we would have lan from the get go, and maybe millions of young people would actually get hooked on their game. as things stand now, we have a game that will get rolled in a year or so, with terrible UI (ghost town effect of bnet 2.0) and awfull gameplay (terrible terrible damage syndrome) compared to its predecesor

so, fuck blizzard, if they ever wanted "successful huge esports" they wouldnt fuck around for every penny they can get, including taxing the tournament organizers in an enviroment they themselves didnt help create (--> whole sustainable bw esports that happened in korea by korea and will prolly never happen anywhere again - that west is trying to emulate), but even went as far as tried to fuck kespa work up with shoving sc2 down their throats, instead of actually reaching an agreement (remember that blizzard lawsuit thing? no?)

anyhows...

edit: im an sc2 player and fan, so dont mistake me with bw elitists. but things i say are painfully obvious even for fanboys like me

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