| VisceraEyes United States. April 03 2012 05:51. Posts 9768 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Dirkzor Denmark. April 03 2012 06:02. Posts 1351 | Profile Blog # |
On April 02 2012 01:50 syllogism wrote:
The problem with free for all PoPing is that once someone throws down their vote, they can't get it back. If that is allowed, scum can throw away their vote while hasty townies can waste theirs. If we later reach a consensus on "lynching" someone, the votes may not be there and we'll gain less information as some people may have already used "their votes".
I dont understand Syllogism's play so far at all. He is normally smarter then this and not so reckless. After writing the above early on in the game he proceeds to push BM and Pull Sbrubbles who havent even posted yet. How is that not wasting PoPs?
While I agree that Sbrubbles is not someone who we want alive at this moment, the fact that Sbrubbles haven't posted yet is a big sign to me saying "Leave him alone so far". Yes we could kill him but then what?
The way I understand Risk.nukes role one or more of Syllogism, Sbrubbles or Cephiro is scum. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
Syllogism is quick to pull Sbrubbles to put empathis on how scummy Sbrubbles looks - and thus remove focus from himself. Why pull him when he haven't even posted yet? Why not wait to see if he comes back before using your PoP's. Thats what I would have done.
Syllo's push on BM is also weird. Earlier he wanted to know if there was any support for a BM "lynch". But there wasn't yet he still pushes him? |
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| wherebugsgo United States. April 03 2012 06:08. Posts 7964 | Profile Blog # |
syllo chose to immediately believe risk.nuke's claim, but he didn't consider that Cephiro could be scum.
Why is that? Syllo, please explain yourself.
In addition, I'm hesitant about saving Palmar until he gives us reads. From what he said, if it's true, he's probably town. However, I don't want to take chances or waste PoPs if we aren't for sure. The only way to ensure we're dealing with a townie Palmar is to see whether or not he will actually provide us with reads. |
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| Dirkzor Denmark. April 03 2012 06:13. Posts 1351 | Profile Blog # |
Can we please let Palmar play like someone who is town before we decide to save him or not?
And can we pull Syllo to the buttom so he can die? (Yes I'm saying I think he is scum)
I'll sleep for some hours and set my alarm to be back before deadline to use my PoP's. (Thank god for easter holiday!) |
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| Mr. Wiggles Canada. April 03 2012 06:15. Posts 4694 | Profile Blog # |
| Has somebody even tried to pull/push Palmar yet to see if he's telling the truth? People have been saying Mattchew has been pushing a lot for Palmar to get the item, so if that's true, and Palmar's telling the truth, then that makes him look a lot worse. Same thing with others strongly supporting going for the item with Palmar. We'll have to look at them all. |
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| wherebugsgo United States. April 03 2012 06:19. Posts 7964 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Dirkzor Denmark. April 03 2012 06:20. Posts 1351 | Profile Blog # |
| I considered it Wiggles. I mean pushing/pulling Palmar. But it just seemed like a waste. |
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| wherebugsgo United States. April 03 2012 06:20. Posts 7964 | Profile Blog # |
| If he moves then someone else needs to kill him by pulling him a second time. A lying Palmar is a scum Palmar. |
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| Dirkzor Denmark. April 03 2012 06:20. Posts 1351 | Profile Blog # |
| Eh... WBG if it works you just gave Palmar the item... smart? |
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| Dirkzor Denmark. April 03 2012 06:21. Posts 1351 | Profile Blog # |
| god dammit... Now I have to saty up a while longer atleast until this is solved =) |
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| wherebugsgo United States. April 03 2012 06:21. Posts 7964 | Profile Blog # |
On April 03 2012 06:20 Dirkzor wrote:
Eh... WBG if it works you just gave Palmar the item... smart?
If it works we kill him.
If it doesn't work then we've confirmed he's telling the truth and he looks more town. |
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| Ace United States. April 03 2012 06:24. Posts 13828 | Profile Blog # |
Day ends less than 7 hours from this post!
Current positions - Day 1
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24.[Item] [___________]
23.[Palmar] [___________]
22.[___________] [___________]
21.[___________] [___________]
20.[___________][___________]
19.[VisceraEyes] [___________]
18.[___________][___________]
17.[Mr.Wiggles] [cascades]
16.[Nemesis][Dirkzor]
15. [Bill Murray] [Mr.Zentor]
14. [___________][___________]
13.[Snarfs][Tobon]
12.[wherebugsgo][prplhz]
11. [Acrofales][layabout]
10.[Mattchew][Bluelightz]
9. [___________][___________]
8. [___________][___________]
7. [risk.nuke][syllogism]
6. [Sbrubbles][___________]
5. [Cephiro][___________]
4. [___________][___________]
3. [___________] [___________]
2. [___________] [___________]
1. [___________] [___________]
PoPs - Day 1
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Mr.Wiggles
Bluelightz Push Dirkzor
VisceraEyes Pull Palmar Push Bluelightz
risk.nuke
Sbrubbles
Dirkzor
Mattchew Pull Palmar Push VisceraEyes
Snarfs Push cascades Pull Palmar
Cephiro
Tobon Push layabout Pull Cephiro
wherebugsgo Push Bluelightz
layabout
syllogism Push Bill Murray Pull Sbrubbles
Mr.Zentor
prplhz
Acrofales Push VisceraEyes
Bill Murray Pull Palmar
cascadesPull Palmar
Palmar
Nemesis Push Tobon
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| Acrofales Brazil. April 03 2012 06:25. Posts 5580 | Profile # |
WBG: you're complaining about people wasting PoPs, but don't even read the thread properly?! You just wasted a pull. In fact, the very pull that made me decide he was speaking the truth:
On April 03 2012 02:51 Snarfs wrote:
I agree that the Palmar situation needs to be dealt with and sometime before he needs to disappear being in a European time zone.
##Pull Palmar
Whoever does the last pull needs to make sure that they make it clear that they're going to pull well before they make the pull so that we don't risk two people pulling at the same time and "accidentally" killing Palmar. Ideally we have two people, one who can pull and one who can push for safety. Also, refresh the actions in a new window before pulling. No excusing any "accidents" here.
Also, with risk claiming it isn't his ability, it's quite frustrating to see that Tobon wasted his push as well (though by chance it did verify some weird behaviour around Acro/Nemesis). This is the kind of PoP that I was trying to set a precedent for punishing by pushing cascades.
And then, 8 pages later, you come in and just throw away your pull. Derp much?
On April 03 2012 06:19 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'll do it.
##pull Palmar
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| Acrofales Brazil. April 03 2012 06:25. Posts 5580 | Profile # |
| EBWOP: sorry, was only 6 pages later |
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| VisceraEyes United States. April 03 2012 06:25. Posts 9768 | Profile Blog # |
He's apparently telling the truth. Can we continue with the plan now? Luckily it didn't use your Pull so I can count on you to help save me right Bugs?
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| Tobon United States. April 03 2012 06:26. Posts 322 | Profile # |
The PoP list doesn't include wherebugsgo's pull. An oversite? Or has it not happened yet?
And if the answer to both those questions is no, then PoPing a nullified person doesn't use up your PoP? |
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| Ace United States. April 03 2012 06:28. Posts 13828 | Profile Blog # |
| No it wasn't an oversite. |
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| Dirkzor Denmark. April 03 2012 06:29. Posts 1351 | Profile Blog # |
On April 03 2012 06:25 Acrofales wrote:WBG: you're complaining about people wasting PoPs, but don't even read the thread properly?! You just wasted a pull. In fact, the very pull that made me decide he was speaking the truth:
Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 02:51 Snarfs wrote:
I agree that the Palmar situation needs to be dealt with and sometime before he needs to disappear being in a European time zone.
##Pull Palmar
Whoever does the last pull needs to make sure that they make it clear that they're going to pull well before they make the pull so that we don't risk two people pulling at the same time and "accidentally" killing Palmar. Ideally we have two people, one who can pull and one who can push for safety. Also, refresh the actions in a new window before pulling. No excusing any "accidents" here.
Also, with risk claiming it isn't his ability, it's quite frustrating to see that Tobon wasted his push as well (though by chance it did verify some weird behaviour around Acro/Nemesis). This is the kind of PoP that I was trying to set a precedent for punishing by pushing cascades.
And then, 8 pages later, you come in and just throw away your pull. Derp much?
No you derp much.
Palmar started at 18. He is now at 23. 5 pulls have been made to Palmar meaning everyone have been successfull. WBG's pull would have been the 6th. Im now waiting for the mod to answer Tobons question before making my judgement here |
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| VisceraEyes United States. April 03 2012 06:30. Posts 9768 | Profile Blog # |
| Come on guys - 3 pushes, 2 or more pulls. No biggie. You have the power in your hands. Will you choose to aid the forces of good, or play accomplice to the forces of evil? |
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| Acrofales Brazil. April 03 2012 06:30. Posts 5580 | Profile # |
Then is Snarf's pull being used an oversight?
Something strange is going on here. |
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