Death Factory Mafia 2 - Page 54

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On April 03 2012 00:40 Bluelightz wrote:
Also, I seem to have misunderstood my role PM, so, 1 of 3 positions that will. Be announced with the day post will be booby trapped, the positions are randomized.

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On April 04 2012 09:49 MrZentor wrote:
First I'll discuss why we didn't get anything done the first day, then how we should fix it, and finally, who to kill.

The first half of the day went pretty well. We discussed how we should vote, if Palmar should get the item, and a few suspicions. It started to fall apart when some people started pulling Palmar to the item before we had decided if that was a good idea. The second day was chaos. There were tons of roleclaims. People wasted their PoPs. Risk.nuke said at least one of sbrubbles, syllogism, and Cephiro was scum. Palmar got stuck at the top. The town got together and saved Palmar at the cost some PoPs. They tried to lynch the three people risk.nuke had said, but because they couldn't decide on who to kill, it was a no lynch. Finally, mafia got VE into the redzone. Now the mafia have another kill, and we don't have much information.

We need to decide on what people we're going to kill before we start pushing them, so no PoPs get wasted. In fact, I don't want to see any PoPs on the first half of the day unless you're sure you won't be able to be there during the second half of the day, or we agreed to use some PoPs to get the item or to confirm a role claim. A PoP is best used near the end of the day, because it's when you have to most information.

I probably sound like a huge hypocrite saying this when I didn't use my PoPs yesterday, but I had planned on being able to get on the computer yesterday, and the events that arose were unforeseeable.

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Of cephiro, syllogism, and sbrubbles, cephiro seems the most innocent. He has been extremely active and has been very cooperative. His overreaction to the idea of Palmar getting the item is a little suspicious.

Sbrubbles started by lurking, but recently he has been active and made some good posts.

Syllogism is the scummiest. He threw away his vote and spent several pages bickering with WBG.

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Right now I'm a little suspicious of Tobon; I'll probably post a case on him when I've had more time to digest the information.

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In case you missed my other post or the beginning of this post, I had a bunch of crazy stuff come up, so I didn't have access to a computer to PoP.

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On April 05 2012 07:22 Snarfs wrote:

He said that the positions of the traps would be revealed in the day post. Granted that's probably something that Bluelightz would misread.

Who do you think is scum besides syllo?

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On April 05 2012 07:28 wherebugsgo wrote:


The lie is here.

I see no reason for anyone as town to ever use this role. If I got this role myself I would not use it unless I was scum.

As scum sometimes it's easier to claim your actual role instead of faking it under pressure, which could potentially explain why he would claim it as scum. Who knows at any rate; Bluelightz has long enough played against a town wincon this game that he should die.

At this point I have no clue why layabout or wiggles are defending bluelightz, but the change of heart in layabout particularly intrigues me.

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On April 05 2012 07:44 Tobon wrote:
@Cephiro: This is necessarily vague and roundabout since I don't know exactly what you intend. If there is any point at which your plan is dependent on getting out of the fire once you are in there and relocation would be helpful, remember that I offered safety from VE potentially being fried on day 1.

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On April 05 2012 07:43 layabout wrote:

Because i honestly believe that Bluelightz might do this as town. I am concerned that some people are PoPing him because his actions are terrible not because they think he is scum. After yesterday it should be clear how important discussion and planning are. I am concerned that Bluelightz received so many PoP's in a short amount of time before there had been time for a proper discussion. It seems like you had all decided what to do before i even opened the thread and before Bluelightz could defend himself.

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On April 05 2012 07:37 Acrofales wrote:
@WBG: all of this from a guy who (rightfully) insists on consolidating pops. Current suspects are, unless I am missing something: Syllo (and pushes on Cephiro to get Syllo), Bluelightz, Tobon, BillMurray (although I disagree, I just think he's dumb), Mattchew and MrZentor. I personally wouldn't mind seeing MrWiggles in that list too.

Seeing as there's only 5 scum and we cannot possibly hope to lynch all those people today, MIND CONSOLIDATING?

Votes have already been cast on Syllo (by way of Cephiro, assuming that pans out) and Bluelightz. I personally think those are pretty good votes (although I still think we should just have straight up lynched Syllo).

Given that any lynch today requires us to push someone completely off the queue to ensure a kill, we should really focus on one target at a time (or one for pushing and one for pulling).

Discussing other targets seems fine, but at this point please don't consider poping them.

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On April 05 2012 07:34 layabout wrote:

Bluelightz, prplhz, maybe mattchew.

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On April 05 2012 07:47 Cephiro wrote:


I appriciate that, but even in the case my quest fails you shouldn't save me, as me dying will confirm syllo as scum in a worst case scenario. I am fairly sure I know your ability, and I'm sad to see there are people pushing for your lynch.

I trust you to save town with it at the right time.

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On April 05 2012 07:52 Snarfs wrote:

##Push Cephiro

If you're willing to die to confirm syllo should your plan fail, then at least you're thinking straight.

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