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 dAPhREAk   Nauru. April 12 2012 02:29. Posts 8697
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On April 12 2012 01:45 randomKo_Orean wrote:

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I can't tell if you are being sarcastic, but if the law enforcement was doing their job properly, Zimmerman would be in jail by now, wouldn't you think so?

With that being said, I want to ask the TL audience this question. Which of you honestly believe that the killing or the handling of the case was not racially motivated at all? I want to hear your answers why you'd think that way.

Sanford apparently has a track record of not being terribly concerned about African-Americans according to the media. of course, i will take that with a grain of salt. so, there could be a racially motivated reason why Zimmerman (half white, half hispanic) was not arrested. however, the involvement of the state attorney (a much higher office, and an attorney) tends to make me think that it was less racially motivated. nevertheless, we will never know. we can only look at the facts that have been spoon fed to us and determine whether we think that it was proper for him not to be arrested. because there is at least an arguable basis for not arresting him, i am going to assume his arrest was not primarily based on race (especially since he is not 100% white, and most racists/prejudiced individuals like hispanics as much as blacks).
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 Blennd   United States. April 12 2012 02:42. Posts 254
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On April 12 2012 02:29 dAPhREAk wrote:

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Sanford apparently has a track record of not being terribly concerned about African-Americans according to the media. of course, i will take that with a grain of salt. so, there could be a racially motivated reason why Zimmerman (half white, half hispanic) was not arrested. however, the involvement of the state attorney (a much higher office, and an attorney) tends to make me think that it was less racially motivated. nevertheless, we will never know. we can only look at the facts that have been spoon fed to us and determine whether we think that it was proper for him not to be arrested. because there is at least an arguable basis for not arresting him, i am going to assume his arrest was not primarily based on race (especially since he is not 100% white, and most racists/prejudiced individuals like hispanics as much as blacks).


Do we know that the police knew he was half hispanic at the time they would have arrested him? He doesn't have a Hispanic-sounding name and has light skin, and he doesn't seem to have an accent based on the recordings of his voice, so it seems plausible that the police would have assumed he was white.
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 dAPhREAk   Nauru. April 12 2012 02:48. Posts 8697
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On April 12 2012 02:42 Blennd wrote:

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Do we know that the police knew he was half hispanic at the time they would have arrested him? He doesn't have a Hispanic-sounding name and has light skin, and he doesn't seem to have an accent based on the recordings of his voice, so it seems plausible that the police would have assumed he was white.


he is identified as a white male in the police report.

http://www.craigboyce.com/w/2012/03/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-police-report/george-zimmerman-police-report-002/

http://www.craigboyce.com/w/2012/03/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-police-report/george-zimmerman-police-report-003/

he doesnt look "white" to me as he appears to have hispanic features. but i have never met him in person, only seen the few pictures that heve been disclosed, so that means little.
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 terranu1   Romania. April 12 2012 02:58. Posts 53
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In my country alot of cases involving cops abusing,beating ended up with no penalties to the cop even with all the case being in major newspaper and news channels. I saw this Zimmerman is not even a cop ? so why everyone says that "police cover for him" ? Maybe because they let him roam free with his patrol habbits and if he goes down then they go down too and that's just pure corruption , nothing else. Every citizen out there could carry a weapon or have suicidal/ criminal thoughts in process but you can't arrest/shoot everyone without proof/previous good info on the subject and it's intentions. And all this "racist" ,racist murder, racist cop..is no good. It was not racism it was a mad guy who may have had previous harsh experiences with black people and had alot of anger towards them. This is not racism is just corruption in the justice dep of US.
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 Defacer   Canada. April 12 2012 03:12. Posts 4809
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On April 12 2012 01:45 randomKo_Orean wrote:

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I can't tell if you are being sarcastic, but if the law enforcement was doing their job properly, Zimmerman would be in jail by now, wouldn't you think so?

With that being said, I want to ask the TL audience this question. Which of you honestly believe that the killing or the handling of the case was not racially motivated at all? I want to hear your answers why you'd think that way.


The "Stand your Ground" law is not racist.

Thinking that a young black man that you've never seen before, in your neighborhood with a history of break-ins, may be it racial profiling and distasteful but not necessarily illegal and racist.

Giving Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt? Not tracking down Trayvon's cell phone call or interviewing neighbors and key eyewitness until a week after the shooting? These are the bigger issues that have racial implications.

It betrays a double standard. Everyone knows that if Trayvon was on the neighborhood watch, and had shot a suspicious man that in his neighborhood, he would have been arrested already, or the case would be handled far differently.

Personally, that's where my 'outrage' comes from.



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 wunsun   Canada. April 12 2012 03:47. Posts 587
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George Zimmerman is going to be charged

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-martin-shooting-law-enforcement-official-says/2012/04/11/gIQAHJ5oAT_story.html?wprss=

"Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey plans to announce as early as Wednesday afternoon that she is charging neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, according to a law enforcement official close to the investigation.

It was not immediately clear what charge Zimmerman will face. "

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 dAPhREAk   Nauru. April 12 2012 03:47. Posts 8697
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NBC: George Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case


The special prosecutor in the Trayvon Martin case will announce criminal charges against George Zimmerman Wednesday afternoon, a law enforcement official told NBC News.

The nature of the charges weren't immediately known, the official told NBC News Justice Department correspondent Pete Williams, speaking on condition of anonymity. But because Angela Corey, the special prosecutor appointed by Florida Gov. Rick Scott to re-examine the case, previously announced that she wouldn't take the case to a grand jury, first-degree murder is not an option.

Authorities in Sanford, Fla. — where Zimmerman, 28, a neighborhood watch volunteer, shot Martin, 17, on Feb. 26 — also began preparing for an announcement from Corey, NBC station WESH of Orlando reported. Seminole County sheriff's deputies spent Wednesday morning setting up barricades along the booking area for new inmates at the county jail.

Stephanie Gosk and Dave Forman of NBC News, Miranda Leitsinger of msnbc.com and NBC station WESH of Orlando, Fla., contributed to this report by M. Alex Johnson of msnbc.com. Follow M. Alex Johnson on Twitter and Facebook.

Martin's father, Tracy Martin, said he was looking forward to Corey's announcement.

"It's 44 days later, and George Zimmerman is still walking free," Martin said at a news conference during a meeting of the National Action Network in Washington. "It's 44 days later, and my son is in a mausoleum."

Tracy Martin, Trayvon Martin's father, thanks supporters and vows he won't let his son's death "be in vain."

Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Martin's parents, urged people to "remain peaceful" after the expected announcement.

Zimmerman, whose father is white and whose mother is Peruvian, says he shot Martin, who was black, in self-defense after following him in a gated community in Sanford. Police questioned Zimmerman but decided against pressing charges.

The lack of an arrest or charges has sparked protests nationwide, with critics alleging that Zimmerman confronted Martin because of his race. Zimmerman's supporters deny that.

Corey said Tuesday that she wouldn't convene a grand jury probe. That announcement came before Zimmerman's attorneys said they had lost touch with their client and were withdrawing from the case.

A federal civil rights investigation is also under way, but U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Wednesday that the Justice Department had to meet a "high bar" to bring any charges.

The main federal role is to "support the state in its ongoing investigation," Holder told reporters Wednesday morning in Washington. At the same time, he said, the Justice Department is conducting its "own thorough and parallel investigation" to try to resolve the case "in as fair and complete a way and as quickly as we can."


http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/11/11144255-nbc-george-zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-martin-case?lite

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 momonami5   United States. April 12 2012 03:49. Posts 107
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I have a bad feeling that he gonna escape the country somehow they should have arrested him , and t hen made sure he couldn't fly out of the usa etc, then let him pay bail if he could.. but now he has a chance to get away lol
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 AllHailTheDead   United States. April 12 2012 04:00. Posts 321
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So they are announcing charges in about 3 hours?

Are they actually going to charge him for something? Scary although i dont deem him innocent completely, I dont feel he should be found guilty of what happened
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 BlackWhole   United States. April 12 2012 04:00. Posts 40
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Has anyone been following this notion that Zimmerman reached out to Sean hannity? I'm curious to know if hannity has made any statements regarding this which I heard mentioned in the attorney press conference yesterday.....


I think manslaughter is the most likely outcome, given the evidence released to public but with the way this whole thing has played out you never know.....
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 Zorkmid   Canada. April 12 2012 04:03. Posts 3853
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On April 12 2012 04:00 AllHailTheDead wrote:
So they are announcing charges in about 3 hours?

Are they actually going to charge him for something? Scary although i dont deem him innocent completely, I dont feel he should be found guilty of what happened


It's much more scary that you can kill an unarmed person in the U.S. and not be arrested.
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 jdsowa   April 12 2012 04:04. Posts 368
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In a very general sense, I would prefer to live in a society composed of (perhaps overzealous) law-abiding do-gooders like Zimmerman, than small-time wannabe hoodlums like Martin. Society is a more pleasant place when people are not antagonistic to its foundational values. Unfortunately, this is a negative side effect of multiculturalism where one culture is pitted against another to retain and reinforce racial identity.

That being said, I absolutely agree with the assessment that the "Stand Your Ground" law creates a kind of Wild West situation where people are almost encouraged to use deadly force to protect their honor. In that sense, it is not desirable and should be repealed.

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 wunsun   Canada. April 12 2012 04:10. Posts 587
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On April 12 2012 04:00 AllHailTheDead wrote:
So they are announcing charges in about 3 hours?

Are they actually going to charge him for something? Scary although i dont deem him innocent completely, I dont feel he should be found guilty of what happened


Well, he's just being charged. The police believe he is guilty, and they will do all they can to prove that he is. However, the defense team will do all it can do to prove that he is innocent. Then the jury would decide. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

My question is that how can they select a jury; seems like everyone is going to have their own bias entering the courtroom.
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 Zorkmid   Canada. April 12 2012 04:11. Posts 3853
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On April 12 2012 04:10 wunsun wrote:

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Well, he's just being charged. The police believe he is guilty, and they will do all they can to prove that he is. However, the defense team will do all it can do to prove that he is innocent. Then the jury would decide. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

My question is that how can they select a jury; seems like everyone is going to have their own bias entering the courtroom.


Are manslaughters Jury cases in Florida?
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 BlackWhole   United States. April 12 2012 04:13. Posts 40
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On April 12 2012 04:04 jdsowa wrote:
In a very general sense, I would prefer to live in a society composed of (perhaps overzealous) law-abiding do-gooders like Zimmerman, than small-time wannabe hoodlums like Martin. Society is a more pleasant place when people are not antagonistic to its foundational values. Unfortunately, this is a negative side effect of multiculturalism where one culture is pitted against another to retain and reinforce racial identity.

That being said, I absolutely agree with the assessment that the "Stand Your Ground" law creates a kind of Wild West situation where people are almost encouraged to use deadly force to protect their honor. In that sense, it is not desirable and should be repealed.




That's funny, because from what I have found is that Zimmerman is the one who has had prior arrests, while Martin has never been arrested....what facts truly promote Martin as a hoodlum? Pot at school. Silly picture poses?
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 justinpal   United States. April 12 2012 04:13. Posts 3233
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On April 12 2012 04:04 jdsowa wrote:
In a very general sense, I would prefer to live in a society composed of (perhaps overzealous) law-abiding do-gooders like Zimmerman, than small-time wannabe hoodlums like Martin. Society is a more pleasant place when people are not antagonistic to its foundational values. Unfortunately, this is a negative side effect of multiculturalism where one culture is pitted against another to retain and reinforce racial identity.

That being said, I absolutely agree with the assessment that the "Stand Your Ground" law creates a kind of Wild West situation where people are almost encouraged to use deadly force to protect their honor. In that sense, it is not desirable and should be repealed.




Um, how is Zimmerman a law-abiding do-gooder? He shot someone in a fist fight at best and killed a crying teenager at the worst. He essentially hasn't said anything, but he will be tried and we will find out the 'truth.' He was also told specifically by a police dispatcher that he did not need to follow the kid, but he didn't listen. Nothing about Martin sounds like a wannabe hoodlum either. He was still in school for one, despite being suspended (which I am too confused about).

So I really don't see how you can claim Martin was antagonistic to any societal values. He went to school, lived in a fine neighborhood, ran away from a creep man following him (which is exactly what I would have done), etc. Our society is based on individualism more than anything and we don't just walk around in the rain following kids with skittles and Arizona. We also don't encourage anything like vigilantism or over-zealous do-gooders who are looking for trouble where it isn't.

For that matter, the only person who was abiding to the Stand Your Ground law was Martin as he preformed his obligated duty to run from creepy men. Zimmerman chased him down and presumably caught him and tackled him. I mean if anyone was breaking that law it was him.

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 momonami5   United States. April 12 2012 04:16. Posts 107
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On April 12 2012 04:13 justinpal wrote:

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Um, how is Zimmerman a law-abiding do-gooder? He shot someone in a fist fight at best and killed a crying teenager at the worst. He essentially hasn't said anything, but he will be tried and we will find out the 'truth.' He was also told specifically by a police dispatcher that he did not need to follow the kid, but he didn't listen. Nothing about Martin sounds like a wannabe hoodlum either. He was still in school for one, despite being suspended (which I am too confused about).

So I really don't see how you can claim Martin was antagonistic to any societal values. He went to school, lived in a fine neighborhood, ran away from a creep man following him (which is exactly what I would have done), etc. Our society is based on individualism more than anything and we don't just walk around in the rain following kids with skittles and Arizona. We also don't encourage anything like vigilantism or over-zealous do-gooders who are looking for trouble where it isn't.

For that matter, the only person who was abiding to the Stand Your Ground law was Martin as he preformed his obligated duty to run from creepy men. Zimmerman chased him down and presumably caught him and tackled him. I mean if anyone was breaking that law it was him.




I agree, seems like alot of people who support zimmerman just ignore this. Everything is really starting to come upfront now, lawyers gone, zimmerman acting like a nutcase got websites up trying to make money etc and not even contacting his lawyers who have been supporting him this whole time, bet money that zimmerman will not be found he is long gone now.
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 syn0r   April 12 2012 04:17. Posts 64
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On April 12 2012 04:04 jdsowa wrote:
That being said, I absolutely agree with the assessment that the "Stand Your Ground" law creates a kind of Wild West situation where people are almost encouraged to use deadly force to protect their honor. In that sense, it is not desirable and should be repealed.



I think this case is going to have the Stand Your Ground law put under intense scrutiny. The law as the "Castle Doctrine" makes perfect sense, wherein if someone enters your house to cause harm, you have every right to protect yourself, and receive immunity for it. It doesn't make sense that people can get into a fight in public areas and end up shooting someone.



Um, how is Zimmerman a law-abiding do-gooder? He shot someone in a fist fight at best and killed a crying teenager at the worst. He essentially hasn't said anything, but he will be tried and we will find out the 'truth.' He was also told specifically by a police dispatcher that he did not need to follow the kid, but he didn't listen. Nothing about Martin sounds like a wannabe hoodlum either. He was still in school for one, despite being suspended (which I am too confused about).

So I really don't see how you can claim Martin was antagonistic to any societal values. He went to school, lived in a fine neighborhood, ran away from a creep man following him (which is exactly what I would have done), etc. Our society is based on individualism more than anything and we don't just walk around in the rain following kids with skittles and Arizona. We also don't encourage anything like vigilantism or over-zealous do-gooders who are looking for trouble where it isn't.

For that matter, the only person who was abiding to the Stand Your Ground law was Martin as he preformed his obligated duty to run from creepy men. Zimmerman chased him down and presumably caught him and tackled him. I mean if anyone was breaking that law it was him.


That sounds almost as sensationalized as what the media has portrayed. Zimmerman is law-abiding or he wouldn't have been able to register a carry & conceal firearm permit. Reading through the rest of this thread, it was a suggestion that he not follow, not a direct order. As far as Martin goes, being suspended from school for something drug related is what I, and probably most others would consider a hoodlum. Drug use as a teenager may not depict how the rest of his life is going to go, but he could have easily been arrested for paraphernalia and given a criminal record. Would that have made him a hoodlum?
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 dAPhREAk   Nauru. April 12 2012 04:19. Posts 8697
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this thread is sorely lacking in polls. =D read the definitions before you vote.

Murder - 2nd Degree

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Manslaughter

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Assault and/or Battery

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now, vote for the HIGHEST charge; do not include lesser included offense (e.g., a murder is necessarily a battery, etc.)

Poll: What SHOULD Zimmerman be charged with?

Manslaughter (25)
 
40%

Nothing (20)
 
32%

Second Degree Murder (18)
 
29%

Assault and/or Battery (0)
 
0%

63 total votes

Your vote: What SHOULD Zimmerman be charged with?

(Vote): Second Degree Murder
(Vote): Manslaughter
(Vote): Assault and/or Battery
(Vote): Nothing



Poll: What do you think Zimmerman WILL be charged with?

Manslaughter (33)
 
65%

Second Degree Murder (13)
 
25%

Nothing (5)
 
10%

Assault and/or Battery (0)
 
0%

51 total votes

Your vote: What do you think Zimmerman WILL be charged with?

(Vote): Second Degree Murder
(Vote): Manslaughter
(Vote): Assault and/or Battery
(Vote): Nothing

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 momonami5   United States. April 12 2012 04:19. Posts 107
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On April 12 2012 04:17 syn0r wrote:

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I think this case is going to have the Stand Your Ground law put under intense scrutiny. The law as the "Castle Doctrine" makes perfect sense, wherein if someone enters your house to cause harm, you have every right to protect yourself, and receive immunity for it. It doesn't make sense that people can get into a fight in public areas and end up shooting someone.


yeah seems crazy right... imagine some guy assaulting you trying to rob ya, then you win the fight and bloody him up good but he pulls a gun and kills ya nobody see's it and he claims self defense and has wounds to prove it.
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