| fenX France. March 29 2012 07:26. Posts 124 | Profile # |
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Version 0.6 - Testing version
I'll wait for some feedback before I spend more time on this, only 1/3 of the map is textured and only a few spots have doodads.
The idea behind this one is a "2 maps in one", you can only spawn cross positions but the layout is very different if you spawn SW vs NE or NW vs SE.
SW vs NE : Very long ground distances, easy natural, easy third and even easy 4th, shorter air distance from main to main and the natural doesnt protect the main from drops, probably leading to long macro games with drop play. XNT are not very important and easy to avoid.
NW vs SE : Shorter ground distance but longer air distance, hard to take a third but you can choose to expand toward your opponent. XNT are very important and watch over all fast attack paths.
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Older versions :
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Published on EU as "Ice Cauldron"Last edit: 2012-04-14 06:53:58 |
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| Superouman France. March 29 2012 07:36. Posts 1492 | Profile Blog # |
| Mother of god, how did you get those epic trees |
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| BreakfastBurrito United States. March 29 2012 07:37. Posts 667 | Profile # |
chokes and ramps everywhere
ez to defend 4 bases
The map where zergs go to die |
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| Brosy United States. March 29 2012 07:46. Posts 253 | Profile Blog # |
| Just curious, but why not have all nats the same? As a toss the top right and bottom left seem much more FFE friendly than the other too. |
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| Ragoo Germany. March 29 2012 08:02. Posts 2205 | Profile # |
| Seems you didn't have the lighting window open when you exported the map overview image and thus the colors are a bit different on the overview (snow not rly white)?! |
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| Areon United States. March 29 2012 10:11. Posts 270 | Profile # |
| This... this is kind of brilliant. I don't know if this has been done before but just the concept of spawn locations influencing how players will choose build orders and play out the match is pretty damn interesting. Although Zerg and Protoss sound like they have a couple critcisms, looks like potential for a solid map. |
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| DYEAlabaster Canada. March 29 2012 10:22. Posts 992 | Profile Blog # |
I like the concept of 2-in-1, but two problems jump out at me:
1- The bottom right expo (and top left) is really hard to take with a FFE, I would fix this so that both spawn possiblities are viable for FFE.
2- The centre is very claustrophobic, which would make zergs very sad indeed (especially at bottom right/top left spawn points) |
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| TheFish7 United States. March 29 2012 14:15. Posts 1205 | Profile # |
Hahaha yes! cool aesthetics for sure.
I am afraid though that the zerg voice in me is saying "nooooo! chokey middle, ramps to get anywhere! we will die! blllarrrrghhhh" (overlord noises) |
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| PeZuY March 29 2012 14:28. Posts 911 | Profile Blog # |
| Love the aesthetics, but also I see way too many chokes. Is it possible to small the middle? |
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 Sea_Food Finland. March 29 2012 18:30. Posts 1612 | Profile Blog # |
| The SW vs NE spawns look really good to me, but the natural layout in the other spawns is done wrong. For players to gain a good defenders advantage, you need to have a choke very near the 2nd Hatch/CC/Nexus, and right after a more open area. Naturals done this way work good for all races like in your SW vs NE spawns. But as it is the opposite in the SE vs NW spawns it is bad for all races. |
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| fenX France. March 30 2012 03:22. Posts 124 | Profile # |
Updated with some changes :
- Small changes here and there to make paths wider
- Changed the entrance for natural on NW/SW spawns
- Added some LoSB
On March 29 2012 07:36 Superouman wrote:
Mother of god, how did you get those epic trees
Edited the texture files |
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| moskonia Israel. March 30 2012 04:06. Posts 930 | Profile # |
| seems really cool, hope some tournament catch this map. |
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| TheV Brazil. March 31 2012 05:21. Posts 99 | Profile # |
| I support this idea SO MUCH. Brilliant. |
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| The_Templar United States. March 31 2012 09:54. Posts 4026 | Profile Blog # |
It seems to me that if you make the center hole slightly smaller and add a wide ramp to the highground expansions to make them less turtley, this map would be tournament worthy.
fenX is back <3 |
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| Mashmed Sweden. March 31 2012 10:31. Posts 198 | Profile # |
Something you could do to open up the map abit more and to battle the fact that there are more or less 2 spots you need to guard to have 6 generally safe bases is make the parts i marked in green, lowground.
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| fenX France. April 04 2012 07:24. Posts 124 | Profile # |
On March 31 2012 09:54 TehTemplar wrote:
fenX is back <3
Not really, I had that map halfway done for 3 or 4 months, but my analyzer was broken and I only found out recently there was a corrected version available. I'll probably disapear once again when this one is finished.
On March 31 2012 10:31 Mashmed wrote:Something you could do to open up the map abit more and to battle the fact that there are more or less 2 spots you need to guard to have 6 generally safe bases is make the parts i marked in green, lowground. + Show Spoiler +
Brilliant idea, I love it, except that I think it works better on the NW/SE sides and keep the NE/SW 3rd on highground to keep the original idea of different game styles depending on the spawns, one case it will be 3-4 bases macro games and the other will be more 2 bases play with easier agression.
I made some changes on the map accordingly :
- lowground from the 4rth to the Xelnaga tower
- again changed the entrance of the NW/SE natural
- moved the LoSB
(updated the OP, updated the map on EU) |
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