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| Lagcraft United States. April 02 2012 11:34. Posts 132 | Profile Blog # |
I've got a budget of around $500 at the moment
I don't need a monitor at the moment but I will need an operating system (most likely; there's a possibility of me finding one).
I'm not looking to overclock.
My resolution at the moment is 1084 x 720
I want this computer to be able to stream at 320p, maybe 480p with all graphics low.
The budget is a bit flexible, up to $600 in about two weeks.
Located in the US.
I tried posting this in the computer build thread but it got largely ignored.
I'd prefer intel over amd but I'm not too picky.
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| PaRaBoWL United States. April 02 2012 19:49. Posts 73 | Profile # | |
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| Alryk United States. April 02 2012 20:53. Posts 2411 | Profile Blog # |
I HIGHLY doubt he could stream on 720P. I feel like even 360p might be skeptical. Hyperthreading is nice and all, but starcraft 2 uses two cores, so you would be trying to stream with only two hyperthreaded cores, which is obviously not great.
Streaming with such a low budget will be very hard. Isn't this a point where amd could work?
Edit: if you got ignored, just repost it. A lot goes on, and people have been missed before. You still don't need your own thread >.> skyr myrmidon or medrea (our tech gods) are actually much more likely to post in that thread than random ones, and the other really smart people we have will too. Last edit: 2012-04-02 20:56:56 |
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| PaRaBoWL United States. April 02 2012 20:57. Posts 73 | Profile # |
On April 02 2012 20:53 Alryk wrote:
I HIGHLY doubt he could stream on 720P. I feel like even 360p might be skeptical. Hyperthreading is nice and all, but starcraft 2 uses two cores, so you would be trying to stream with only two hyperthreaded cores, which is obviously not great.
Streaming with such a low budget will be very hard. Isn't this a point where amd could work?
You are higly mistaken sir as my friend who has an i3 Laptop can stream at slightly higher than 480p reso, the desktop i3 is obviosly better so thats why i said MAYBE he can try 720p but that is skeptical indeed.Last edit: 2012-04-02 21:00:16 |
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| Rannasha Netherlands. April 02 2012 20:59. Posts 2309 | Profile Blog # |
| Compared to the build that PaRaBoWL suggested, I would stretch the budget a bit and go for an i5 CPU. The extra physical cores will benefit you greatly for streaming. 720p might be pushing it with a non-overclocked i5 (depends on which framerate / quality you want), but something between 480p and 720p should be quite doable (I did that on my old Phenom II quadcore, which is handily outperformed by a Sandy Bridge i5). |
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| Madoga Netherlands. April 02 2012 22:20. Posts 463 | Profile # |
Dont get the Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W. Its useless, cant deliver its rated wattage and is barely a 350W psu.
Just get something like a corsair cx430 v2 for $25 amir. |
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| TheToast United States. April 02 2012 22:36. Posts 4804 | Profile Blog # | |
| | I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid. | |
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| treeco72 United States. April 02 2012 22:48. Posts 43 | Profile # |
| if you care about the cores, micro center sells i5 2500ks for $180 (regular 2500 for like 160ish) that would give you 2 more cores for streaming, also they usually offer CPU/mobo combos cheaply Last edit: 2012-04-02 22:52:01 |
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| Alryk United States. April 02 2012 23:54. Posts 2411 | Profile Blog # |
| An i3 can stream 480p+? I still find this surprising, although I can't say anything other than I am skeptical because I've never streamed. Then again, just because he can stream 480p doesn't mean he can stream it smoothly. But again, I've never streamed, so I'm not positive. |
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| ABagOfFritos Canada. April 02 2012 23:56. Posts 454 | Profile Blog # |
| Guys, "skeptical" is not a difficult word to use properly. Put some effort in, please. |
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| Alryk United States. April 03 2012 01:34. Posts 2411 | Profile Blog # |
I'm not sure that that has any bearing on the content of my post, but thank you.
Skeptical is an adjective that means having doubt. I am skeptical (see: I have doubt) in an i3's ability to stream smoothly. And while I am by no means the best grammar guru in the world, I don't think my usage was so bad as to merit a post specifically to insult it. |
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| Lagcraft United States. April 03 2012 01:46. Posts 132 | Profile Blog # |
Yeah my main problem is that there is no micro center anywhere near me.
Toast, I was simply asking for a second opinion. This looked good but since I haven't made a computer before, I was interested in making my own. This computer was prebuilt and it was good of Myrmidon to find it for me but I was also interested in seeing if something could be made for cheaper. People always say building your own is cheaper than buying new and I wanted to test the hypothesis. No need to get snarky with your grand 2000 posts.
This thread has given me a lot of good information on the subject because the tech crowd is pretty hard to break into.
Skeptical was used incorrectly, but,
who cares? Last edit: 2012-04-03 01:47:01 |
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| Myrmidon United States. April 03 2012 02:00. Posts 8554 | Profile Blog # |
It's not always true that building your own is cheaper, though it pretty much always is for most builds with higher-end graphics cards. Yours doesn't need such a thing, so the difference is smaller.
Approximate retail cost of individual components in that $450 tower is maybe like
CPU - $190
motherboard - $55
RAM - $20
hard drive - $80
optical drive - $15
cheap case - $30
cheap power supply - $30
(Windows 7 - $100)
and of course you would add a low-end dedicated graphics card in there, though if you're willing to tolerate a bit lower fps, the integrated graphics could handle such a low resolution fine on low.
You can do better on your own if you don't need Windows, though the price difference is hardly severe, all things considered. If you would have to pay in the range of $100 for Windows then building your own is a worse deal. |
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| Alryk United States. April 03 2012 02:23. Posts 2411 | Profile Blog # |
| I'm not necessarily angry about it or anything, but can someone explain exactly why or how it was used incorrectly. Obviously nothing to do with tech, but I'm pretty sure its correct. And myrmidon has a good point. |
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| TheToast United States. April 03 2012 03:02. Posts 4804 | Profile Blog # |
On April 03 2012 01:46 Lagcraft wrote:Toast, I was simply asking for a second opinion. This looked good but since I haven't made a computer before, I was interested in making my own. This computer was prebuilt and it was good of Myrmidon to find it for me but I was also interested in seeing if something could be made for cheaper. People always say building your own is cheaper than buying new and I wanted to test the hypothesis. No need to get snarky with your grand 2000 posts.
Did I lord my post count over you? I don't think so.
If you had explained yourself this way to begin with, I probably would have let it go. But you specifically said you were "ignored" which is extremely rude considering Myrmidon was actively trying to help you. SkyR, Myrmdon, Shikyo, JingleHell, Medrea and the others (you know who you are, not going to list you all) spend a heck of a lot of their time providing first rate advice to people in that thread for free; and it just ticks me off when I see people take that for granted.
That being said, you still could have asked your follow up question in that thread there's no need for a new one. |
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