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| Daimiru April 08 2012 14:00. Posts 74 | Profile # |
On April 08 2012 13:57 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:57 GodZo wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:54 Highways wrote:
I'll say Parting had that game 80%
100%
50%. Shall we keep going?
he wasn't engaging with you so if your goal is to call attention to some childish back-and-forth well, you're initiating it |
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| Femari United States. April 08 2012 14:00. Posts 2836 | Profile # |
Winning the GSL is not a requirement to be the best player in the world. It is a requirement to be a bonjwa eventually. It's a requirement to be the most accomplished player. But not to be the best player.
The best player in the world is the strongest player in the world, or in simpler terms the best player in the world is the player who is playing the best of any player out there. Overall MKP is playing better than everyone at the moment, so he's the best player in the world. Is he a bonjwa? No. Is he more accomplished than Nestea or Mvp? No. But he's playing the best! |
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| scaban84 United States. April 08 2012 14:00. Posts 952 | Profile # |
On April 08 2012 13:56 Robson13 wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:55 scaban84 wrote:
I seriously wish people saying MKP was dead should stfu. He had a huge bank and crazy production facilities pumping out units. Seriously, stfu.
Absolutely huge bank of 500 mins and over 1000 gas but the gas is irrelevant. ^___^
Thats because he spent it all in his production queues. Look at the vod when it comes out. |
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| Denzil United Kingdom. April 08 2012 14:00. Posts 3509 | Profile # |
On April 08 2012 13:55 JiPrime wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:52 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:49 JiPrime wrote:
You haters can keep talking.
Nothings gonna change.
nothing ever changes, as a football fan who's had to put up with a lot of shit not only for chelsea but for england i understand that it feels good to vent my frustration there to friends as it does here this is one of those things that will happen that we will try to eliminate if you consider the other GSTLs they're all forgotten. but you'll remember this one, it'll be something to talk about something memorable not for the right reasons but still
Oh silly me, I didn't realize that this thread was a public toilet to dispense shit. I'll just leave you guys here doing your business then.
LR threads have never been anything but a public toilet.
if you were clever you would only briefly browse here during downtime, the amount of retarded comments in a LR thread is unparalleded anywhere else on TL |
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| AzureD United States. April 08 2012 14:00. Posts 284 | Profile # |
On April 08 2012 13:56 oogieogie wrote:
MKP was easily dead...parting would just have to walk into main, and then sit on production while everything slowly died n use the warp prism to reinforce his army. MKP units can't be microed to death if they die once they come out. (if he didn't have a warp prism or pylon at the end then parting could just move his army across the map)
I just watched the VOD. I am pretty sure MKP would hold it after rewatching it a few times. Most of Parting army was far away at his main. Parting had no money at all and Vikings would kill his Warp Prism in seconds since he had 6 of them which I am certain where very near since they just finished. Since Parting had no money it is likely he just finished a warp in cycle. At the same time MKP was banking hundreds of minerals. Parting mostly had Stalkers near MKP base with very few Zealots.
Also you can't say if any lag that MKP might have been interfering with him at that critical moment as that is the only time MKP suffered so badly.
However no one can say anything unless they watched the replay.Last edit: 2012-04-08 14:01:13 |
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| RagequitBM Canada. April 08 2012 14:01. Posts 450 | Profile # |
On April 08 2012 13:24 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:22 JiPrime wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:19 Nethermind wrote:
I'm interested in hearing Korean nitizen opinions on this; are they are divided and anti/pro-Prime as foreigners are?
They share same opinions as you guys, but they are much more civil about it. (HINT: They are banning any raging douchebags left and right with speed of light) They're blaming shitty american internet, though. They are saying GSTL should only host in Korean soil from now on.
Lol. Our internet is fine. Their internet isn't any better. Just because it happened in the US first doesn't mean it wouldn't happen in Korea.
Actually... Koreas internet is around 10 times better than ours. But yeah, I know what you're saying. :DLast edit: 2012-04-08 14:01:59 |
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| GodZo Italy. April 08 2012 14:01. Posts 158 | Profile # |
The post is going down.
Parting is the new Hero! That's all! |
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| Enzymatic Canada. April 08 2012 14:01. Posts 853 | Profile # |
3 Marauders v.s 18 Zealots or something, a few HT's, some stalkers, and warp-in.. While also being able to sit on the Terran production buildings in the main within 5 seconds of the D/C. That game was PartinG's.
GSTL Finals = Completely compromised. |
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| Uwanfite United States. April 08 2012 14:02. Posts 79 | Profile # |
On April 08 2012 14:00 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:55 scaban84 wrote:
I seriously wish people saying MKP was dead should stfu. He had a huge bank and crazy production facilities pumping out units. Seriously, stfu.
I'd love to hear the thoughts of some referees and the two players and their coaches as well. I agree that the information we as spectators had was too limited, even though we could see the number of units they had. We can't properly asses the production cycle and position. I'm willing to trust that experienced Korean observers and players who analyzed the situation did not take such a decision lightly and may have had solid reasons. It would help a lot if they put forward a detailed press release with their analysis.
No, that makes too much sense, it was obviously made in a completely unfair way to cause drama. |
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| jmbnm April 08 2012 14:02. Posts 24 | Profile # |
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| Denzil United Kingdom. April 08 2012 14:02. Posts 3509 | Profile # |
On April 08 2012 13:59 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:59 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:54 Femari wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:52 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:50 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:48 Leth0 wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:46 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:44 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:42 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:41 Denzil wrote:
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using the already defeated player
Wow you're still posting bullshit lol. On the otherhand, I just took a nice shit.
says the fanboy that said he wasn't going to talk to me anymore
says the antiMKP fan who keeps posting bullshit like MKP lost against Parting.
He didn't just lose to parting, he got dominated by parting. Anyone who knows even a little bit about starcraft knows that. Parting took MKP to school in that game then got robbed by some referee's who were to scared make the right call in front of an audience.
Hm, from what I could tell MKP and Parting were even in the first game, and then MKP spanked him in the second.
60 supply down the game was even 
Doubtful but he might be referring to the game as a whole which was very even with MKP holding a slight lead for 90% of the game.
i've seen demuslim hold advantages all game long against protosses and still lose Bling v Demuslim on Metropolis at the LSC comes to mind
Now you're comparing MKP to demuslim?
of course demuslim is as good as mkp don't you agree? |
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| RagequitBM Canada. April 08 2012 14:02. Posts 450 | Profile # |
On April 08 2012 14:01 Enzymatic wrote:
3 Marauders v.s 18 Zealots or something, a few HT's, some stalkers, and warp-in.. While also being able to sit on the Terran production buildings in the main within 5 seconds of the D/C. That game was PartinG's.
GSTL Finals = Completely compromised.
Except most of that was at the middle of the map, which would have allowed two production cycles for mkp, and parting had no money to warp in his own stuff.Last edit: 2012-04-08 14:03:13 |
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 Probasaur United States. April 08 2012 14:02. Posts 461 | Profile # |
It was too back and forth for you to say it was over at any one point. If Parting had disc. when MKP had just taken a huge upswing and was in the lead would it had been over? No, clearly Parting was able to push back. Its called over committing and it happens ALL THE FREAKIN TIME!! If Parting was INSIDE MKP's BASE and he was already camping production, then I wouldn't have an argument and you'd be right.... and guess what MKP would have already GG'd or there would have been no rematch.
BUT that wasn't at all the case. Okay? Okay. Facts people.Last edit: 2012-04-08 14:03:02 |
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| IMoperator April 08 2012 14:03. Posts 1655 | Profile # |
| I would kill for MKP's unit control. If I had one wish that's what I would wish for |
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| JoeSchmoe Canada. April 08 2012 14:03. Posts 1987 | Profile # |
On April 08 2012 14:00 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:55 JiPrime wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:52 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:49 JiPrime wrote:
You haters can keep talking.
Nothings gonna change.
nothing ever changes, as a football fan who's had to put up with a lot of shit not only for chelsea but for england i understand that it feels good to vent my frustration there to friends as it does here this is one of those things that will happen that we will try to eliminate if you consider the other GSTLs they're all forgotten. but you'll remember this one, it'll be something to talk about something memorable not for the right reasons but still
Oh silly me, I didn't realize that this thread was a public toilet to dispense shit. I'll just leave you guys here doing your business then.
LR threads have never been anything but a public toilet. if you were clever you would only briefly browse here during downtime, the amount of retarded comments in a LR thread is unparalleded anywhere else on TL
says the guy who basically lives in this thread. i guess you really like stepping on your own shit? |
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| Enzymatic Canada. April 08 2012 14:03. Posts 853 | Profile # |
On April 08 2012 14:00 AzureD wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:56 oogieogie wrote:
MKP was easily dead...parting would just have to walk into main, and then sit on production while everything slowly died n use the warp prism to reinforce his army. MKP units can't be microed to death if they die once they come out. (if he didn't have a warp prism or pylon at the end then parting could just move his army across the map)
I just watched the VOD. I am pretty sure MKP would hold it after rewatching it a few times. Most of Parting army was far away at his main. Parting had no money at all and Vikings would kill his Warp Prism in seconds since he had 6 of them which I am certain where very near since they just finished. Since Parting had no money it is likely he just finished a warp in cycle. At the same time MKP was banking hundreds of minerals. Parting mostly had Stalkers near MKP base with very few Zealots. Also you can't say if any lag that MKP might have been interfering with him at that critical moment as that is the only time MKP suffered so badly. However no one can say anything unless they watched the replay.
It doesn't matter if MKP has 500000 Minerals, all Parting was going to do was sit on his production buildings in the main and its over. Stop bringing out minerals like it means something at that point, parting had lots of probes, and warp-in, and MKP was down to 3 marauders and having to depend on units from the main (which parting was about to stomp). Last time I checked, Terran can't warp-in units.Last edit: 2012-04-08 14:03:54 |
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| Leth0 April 08 2012 14:03. Posts 856 | Profile # |
On April 08 2012 13:55 scaban84 wrote:
I seriously wish people saying MKP was dead should stfu. He had a huge bank and crazy production facilities pumping out units. Seriously, stfu.
He had next to nothing banked and people will not "stfu about it" just because it bothers you to hear all the facts supporting why MKP was absolutely dead in that game. |
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| Chaggi Korea (South). April 08 2012 14:03. Posts 1087 | Profile # |
On April 08 2012 13:59 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:59 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:54 Femari wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:52 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:50 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:48 Leth0 wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:46 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:44 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:42 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:41 Denzil wrote:
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using the already defeated player
Wow you're still posting bullshit lol. On the otherhand, I just took a nice shit.
says the fanboy that said he wasn't going to talk to me anymore
says the antiMKP fan who keeps posting bullshit like MKP lost against Parting.
He didn't just lose to parting, he got dominated by parting. Anyone who knows even a little bit about starcraft knows that. Parting took MKP to school in that game then got robbed by some referee's who were to scared make the right call in front of an audience.
Hm, from what I could tell MKP and Parting were even in the first game, and then MKP spanked him in the second.
60 supply down the game was even
Doubtful but he might be referring to the game as a whole which was very even with MKP holding a slight lead for 90% of the game.
i've seen demuslim hold advantages all game long against protosses and still lose Bling v Demuslim on Metropolis at the LSC comes to mind
Now you're comparing MKP to demuslim?
no he's comparing an example of TvP where the Terran holds the advantage for nearly the entire game, takes 1-2 bad storms, and loses.
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| mrfsy France. April 08 2012 14:03. Posts 48 | Profile # |
On April 08 2012 13:52 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:31 sc14s wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:21 RJGooner wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:18 sc14s wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:18 MasterKang wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:09 DivinitySC2 wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:07 Femari wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:06 Argolis wrote:
MKP = The first sc2 bonjwa
lol no
lol yes?
lol NO
perhaps on the way but not yet obviously.
Not even close to "on the way". He hasn't even won a GSL yet.
i should quote you for later. If you do not think that MKP is or nearly is the best sc2 player atm.. how can you really argue this? are you blind or just plain dumb? he has beaten DRG twice in a row recently in important matches (current GSL champ) and beat parting tonight and at mlg winter arena (who most would consider #1 PvT in the world right now) not to mention he is in code S and has odds for winning it all. really? are you one of those BW players with grouchy old man syndrome? "In my day a bonjwa walked uphill in the snow for 10 years before he was considered a bonjwa!"
I think you're just plain dumb. There's a reason why winning the GSL is a requirement for the claim of "best player in the world. IT'S THE HARDEST TOURNAMENT IN THE WORLD. How can one be the best, if you haven't beaten the best in consecutive series in the most prestigious tournament on the earth. Beating DRG, who has been playing like shit, does not automatically make you the "best player in the world". Omg he beat Parting, the best PvT'er in the world? He also got 2-0'd by JYP, whom some would consider the WORST PvT'er in the Korean scene. Doesn't make much sense for the best sc2 player to lose like that does it? The fact that MKP advanced from his Code S group isn't even that impressive. His wins were against Zenio, who has always been fluctuating between code s and a, and July, who hasn't performed well since his loss to MC in the finals. If MKP had been in the group with Jjakji, Taeja, and theSTC, the chances of him advancing were probably 15-20%. Until MKP wins the GSL, which every pro sc2 player takes the most seriously and prepares the most for, he is NOT eligible for "Best player in the world"
Totally agree.
Calling a player "best in the world" who never had win GSL title is just a joke...
The GSL title is the achievement for the best of the best, you must own this title if you want be N°1 in the world.
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| vndods United States. April 08 2012 14:03. Posts 3743 | Profile # |
On April 08 2012 14:03 IMoperator wrote:
I would kill for MKP's unit control. If I had one wish that's what I would wish for
Who wouldn't. I'd love to go mass bio against zerg. |
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