| monitor United States. April 06 2012 12:54. Posts 2292 | Profile Blog # |
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ESV Korhal Compound - Tournament Edition
Korhal Compound TE takes the ladder edition of Korhal Compound and applies updates based on tournament standards and today's metagame. Changes include adding neutral supply depots to the main ramps, moving the third expansions out of siege tank range, and reducing the amount of chokes placed throughout the map. For a full list of changes from the original version, see below.
(4/5/2012)
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+ Show Spoiler [Change Log] +-Reduced size of main bases in order to move the ramps leading to the middle expansions closer without providing vision into the main base
-Natural expansion chokes moved towards the third; the distance to the third base is shorter
-Third expansion adjusted so siege tanks can no longer hit the hatchery/nexus/command center from the high ground
-Third and fourth expansion minerals and gas rearranged to be less vulnerable to air harassment
-Rocks removed from the middle expansions and added outside the natural
-Widened the areas and ramps outside of the fourth (corner) expansion
-Cliffs reverted to Korhal Manmade Cliffs
-Map bounds increased from 132x132 to 132x136
-Natural choke size reduced to requiring 3 gateways to wall off
-Neutral supply depots added to the bottom of the main ramps
Main to Main distance: 46s
Natural to Natural distance: 41s
Published on NA and EU.
Last edit: 2012-04-06 13:23:28 |
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| Gfire United States. April 06 2012 13:21. Posts 1480 | Profile # |
Looks great. Any hope for this version on ladder? It seems ridiculous that Blizzard wouldn't consider any updates provided, especially since the original map was made a while ago and it was a pretty long time before they even added to the ladder. But I thought I recalled you say that they wouldn't accept an update from you?
Btw, the change log says both that the natural choke size has been reduced and that it has stayed the same. |
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| GenesisX Canada. April 06 2012 13:25. Posts 4035 | Profile Blog # |
On April 06 2012 13:21 Gfire wrote:
Looks great. Any hope for this version on ladder? It seems ridiculous that Blizzard wouldn't consider any updates provided, especially since the original map was made a while ago and it was a pretty long time before they even added to the ladder. But I thought I recalled you say that they wouldn't accept an update from you?
Btw, the change log says both that the natural choke size has been reduced and that it has stayed the same.
Whats that? You want the third farther, tankable bases, and rocks?
In all honesty though, I would probably not veto Korhal if it were this version on ladder  Great job! |
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| monitor United States. April 06 2012 13:25. Posts 2292 | Profile Blog # |
On April 06 2012 13:21 Gfire wrote:
Looks great. Any hope for this version on ladder? It seems ridiculous that Blizzard wouldn't consider any updates provided, especially since the original map was made a while ago and it was a pretty long time before they even added to the ladder. But I thought I recalled you say that they wouldn't accept an update from you?
Btw, the change log says both that the natural choke size has been reduced and that it has stayed the same.
Oops on that natural change 
This version was actually sent to Blizzard, but they turned it down for this season because the current LE version isn't showing enough imbalance to justify any changes. Imo there is enough wrong with it that I'd like to change for tournaments, so I/ESV released a tournament edition. The best thing is to just show your support for the map in tournaments, and maybe Blizzard will pick it up if tournaments do. But in general, there isn't a whole lot that can be done about changing the LE version soon.
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On April 06 2012 13:25 GenesisX wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 13:21 Gfire wrote:
Looks great. Any hope for this version on ladder? It seems ridiculous that Blizzard wouldn't consider any updates provided, especially since the original map was made a while ago and it was a pretty long time before they even added to the ladder. But I thought I recalled you say that they wouldn't accept an update from you?
Btw, the change log says both that the natural choke size has been reduced and that it has stayed the same.
Whats that? You want the third farther, tankable bases, and rocks? In all honesty though, I would probably not veto Korhal if it were this version on ladder Great job!
Thank you! The funny thing is that the LE version was made about 8 months ago, so it was really behind the metagame when it was implemented in ladder. I intend this version to bring it to the standards today. Glad you like it!Last edit: 2012-04-06 13:27:14 |
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| Filter Canada. April 06 2012 13:34. Posts 591 | Profile Blog # |
| I still hate the center of this map with a passion, but the changes to the thirds look promising. I think part of me hating the map is I'm not using the moveout paths properly/with the correct number of units. |
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| Mashmed Sweden. April 06 2012 13:45. Posts 198 | Profile # |
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| clever_us United States. April 06 2012 14:08. Posts 311 | Profile Blog # |
| changes look very nice happy to see you following up on it |
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 Plexa Administrator April 06 2012 14:12. | Profile Blog # |
| sigh. Wish this map was given more of a chance than it has had |
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| thezanursic Slovenia. April 06 2012 14:33. Posts 2909 | Profile Blog # |
| 132x132 to 132x136 can somebody show how much of a difference this makes. Can the mutas hide in the corners now? |
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| Nerski United States. April 06 2012 15:01. Posts 1006 | Profile Blog # |
| Now if only we could get blizzard to use these versions of the maps instead of their 'foe' tournament maps where they muck with them. |
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| Archvil3 Denmark. April 06 2012 17:25. Posts 970 | Profile # |
I was a little bit dissapointed in the old version. I loved the layout and have always considered it a worthy top finisher of TLMC. Unfortunately I have it downvoted on ladder now since I as a (mediocre) zerg player cannot deal with ZvT on it.
I love the changes to TE though and the map really deserves a second chance. |
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| Teoita Italy. April 06 2012 17:35. Posts 4457 | Profile Blog # |
On April 06 2012 14:12 Plexa wrote:sigh. Wish this map was given more of a chance than it has had
With the third setup like this it definitely looks better, but on ladder the third is so far away it's almost dual sight Last edit: 2012-04-06 17:36:08 |
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| NeThZOR South Africa. April 06 2012 20:16. Posts 939 | Profile # |
| Very nice changes, I wish that Blizzard will one day implement this into the ladder version. |
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| conquerchimp Netherlands. April 07 2012 01:23. Posts 64 | Profile # |
| i like this one alot more then the standard ladder edition because: you can't siege the third now, the chokes are wider. right geyser on the third is more save now, the rock outside ur natural makes it intresting and ofcourse teh depot and the 3 building wall off to the natural, wish blizzard put this one in the map pool instead of the standard LE |
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| Adebisi Canada. April 07 2012 02:24. Posts 1544 | Profile Blog # |
| TE has a good ring to it !_!. |
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| Baum Germany. April 07 2012 05:03. Posts 997 | Profile # |
| I like Korhal Compound in the current map pool but I don't really get the changes you made to the map. The problem with the third is not that it's attackable from the cliff but that you have to come out in the open to defend the front entrance. This is a big problem in PvZ and TvZ (especially with mech). Sieging the third is not something that should really work early on in the current meta game. Making the natural easier to defend is a good decision though. |
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| monitor United States. April 07 2012 05:15. Posts 2292 | Profile Blog # |
On April 07 2012 05:03 Baum wrote:
I like Korhal Compound in the current map pool but I don't really get the changes you made to the map. The problem with the third is not that it's attackable from the cliff but that you have to come out in the open to defend the front entrance. This is a big problem in PvZ and TvZ (especially with mech). Sieging the third is not something that should really work early on in the current meta game. Making the natural easier to defend is a good decision though.
If you noticed I also shrunk the "open space" you referred to defend the third. I also added rocks to make it even more choked (but allow Zerg to open it up at their third). Fixing the siege range was a change I decided to do because there are very few maps that you can siege the third on currently. It was also a major point of qq from players. |
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| winthrop Hong Kong. April 07 2012 07:03. Posts 803 | Profile Blog # |
| this map is the first veto of all |
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 Barrin United States. April 07 2012 07:47. Posts 4206 | Profile Blog # |
Smart changes. (though perhaps the sieges hitting the nexus/hatch thing should have been given more chance)
Lets play on this some time monitor :D Looking forward to it.Last edit: 2012-04-07 08:06:18 |
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dezi  Germany. April 07 2012 07:54. Posts 1418 | Profile Blog # |
| Decent changes - to bad it will take at least another season till Blizz reacts (or ultimately just removes the map from the pool -_-). |
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