Hjernevask (Brainwash) Science Documentary - Page 3

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On April 08 2012 08:32 Rockztar wrote:

So because you've read a single artist in New York times you're suddenly an expert on the subject?

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On April 08 2012 08:32 Rockztar wrote:
Gotta say man you come off as quite a bit ignorant. It gave me a good laugh though.

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On April 08 2012 08:32 Rockztar wrote:
I don't think you understand Scandinavian culture in the slightest and should probably stop making comments on it.

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On April 08 2012 08:35 AutomatonOmega wrote:
I'm going to watch the fuck out of this. Thanks for posting!

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(presumably there's a somewhat smaller percentage of men as well, not withstanding some radical feminist assertions that men cannot be feminist)

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On April 08 2012 08:33 Conti wrote:
13. If I was born in North America since WWII, my genitals were almost certainly not mutilated soon after birth, without anesthesia.

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On April 08 2012 06:57 Pantythief wrote:


I hope you're not serious.

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On April 08 2012 06:28 sunprince wrote:


People who don't want responsibility for their actions. One of the central tenets of feminist ideology is that you can't blame women for anything whatsoever.

If women chose not to make as much money than men (e.g. working less, choosing easier/safer professions, etc.), then you would have to accept the wage gap or glass ceiling as legitimate. Same goes for other things like why there are more men in engineering. Feminists insist that society is to blame because it allows them to demand things like affirmative action for women, quotas for female politicians, etc. Not that this would be wrong if the idea of society's responsibility was based on empirical science, but feminists abandoned science long ago.

Ironically, the notion that women don't have the ability to make their own decisions but are instead purely the product of social conditioning is one of the most regressive, misogynistic notions I can possibly concieve of. It completely denies women their agency and feeds into the traditional script that men are the actors, while women are merely acted upon. Of course, feminist inconsistency and sexism against both men and women isn't exactly news.

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On April 08 2012 08:07 gruff wrote:

Yes. As I said, I'm not arguing for or against but you are strawmanning the issue when you bring up wage equality across professions since that is not what most notable feminist get hung up about. Also I read the summary of that pdf and it's not as cut and dry as you make it out to be (it's certainly not the "simply put" you use to discount any counter arguement). It says the factors accont for the majority but not neccesarily all unequality. I agree that most feminist use bullshit stats though, but that doesn't neccesarily mean every point they are arguing is bullshit.

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On April 08 2012 06:51 nymfaw wrote:
Feminist movement in Norway is really dumb. While they fight for equal salary levels, women are still not required to participate in military service and can, if they volunteer, despite failing required tests get a payed military education just because they can fill the quota. And on top of that they require special treatment such as not undressing completely nude when ordered to. (no pun intended here, actually happened newspaper link newspaperlink 2)

If they want things to be equal, everything should be equal right? Sorry for being semi-OT, just a thing I find really annoying.

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On April 08 2012 09:25 nalgene wrote:


The person you quoted never uses "all" in a specific way with regards to the bullshit statistics, but rather of all professions. The person uses words such as "often" or "most" "likely" which none of these words mean to say "One Hundred Percent" or 100% or "All". Which is basically what you're saying in the quote and he did say " often cite... " but not "All cite"

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On April 08 2012 07:59 sunprince wrote:
Women have far more privileges than merely looks. Here's a partial list of female privileges:

As a woman:
1. I have a much lower chance of being murdered than a man.
2. I have a much lower chance of being driven to successfully commit suicide than a man.
3. I have a lower chance of being a victim of a violent assault than a man.
4. I have probably been taught that it is acceptable to cry.
5. I will probably live longer than the average man.
6. Society probably won't see my overall worthiness as a person being exclusively tied to how high up in the hierarchy I rise.
7. I have a much better chance of being considered to be a worthy mate, even if I’m unemployed with little money, than a man.
8. I am given much greater latitude to form close, intimate friendships than a man is.
9. My chance of suffering a work-related injury or illness is significantly lower than a man’s.
10. My chance of being killed on the job is a tiny fraction of a man’s.
11. If I shy away from fights, it is unlikely that this will damage my status or call into question my worthiness as a sex partner.
12. If I lack the capacity for violence, this generally won't be seen as a damning personal deficiency.
13. If I was born in North America since WWII, my genitals were almost certainly not mutilated soon after birth, without anesthesia.
14. If I attempt to hug a friend in joy, it’s much less likely that my friend will wonder about my sexuality or pull away in unease.
15. If I seek a hug in solace from a close friend, I’ll have much less concern about how they will interpret it or whether my worthiness as a member of my gender will be called into question.
16. I generally am not compelled by the rules of my sex to wear emotional armor in interactions with most people.
17. I am frequently the emotional center of my family.
18. I am allowed to wear clothes that signify ‘vulnerability’, ‘playful openness’, and ’softness’.
19. I am allowed to BE vulnerable, playful, and soft without calling my worthiness as a human being into question.
20. If I interact with other people’s children, I do not have to worry much about the interaction being misinterpreted.
21. I have a much greater chance than a man does of having a sympathetic audience to discuss the unreasonableness of gender demands.
22. I am less likely to be shamed for being sexually inactive than a man.
23. From my late teens through menopause, it's easier for me to find a sex partner at my attractiveness level than for a man.
24. My role in my child’s life is generally seen as more important than the child’s father’s role.

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On April 08 2012 09:23 Ballack wrote:


Actually, in Norway the number of females going into "male-dominated" studies like physics and computer science has risen considerably. Does that perhaps have something to do with the measures Norway has taken the last decades when it comes to equality? So numbers agree with the feminists who says society has a lot of blame, which facts can you bring to the table?

Edit: Also, there is a difference in saying women's decisionmaking is purely the product of social conditioning, and saying social conditioning has an effect.

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On April 08 2012 10:29 Chromodoris wrote:
If you had watched the documentary you'd have seen that there's data saying that there are fewer women going into male dominated proffesions than 15 years ago and vice versa. It seems that women and men does not really want to go into proffesions that does not appeal to them. You'd probably do good in watching it.

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On April 08 2012 10:06 Ballack wrote:


After quickly going over these examples, I find that at least half of them are a reality because of men. Yes you are less likely to be murdered, but doesn't man also by far commit the most murders? So actually, women are not responsible for that inequality. I could go over more of them but you get the picture. The inequalities sane feminists argue about, are the ones that have established themselves because of male dominence over the centuries.

Also, let me be clear, I'm not a supporter of the extremist feminists that want EVERYTHING to be equal.

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