| funcmode Australia. April 17 2012 07:35. Posts 682 | Profile # |
| I just want to say as an aside, late last night when I was writing my first proper post trawling through the thread trying to give my opinions some substance, I questioned how anyone could ever find this game even slightly entertaining, it seemed like an epic reading session with minor bouts of arguing here and there. I don't think my opinion could have changed more in the last few hours, this is super intense! :D |
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| Xatalos Finland. April 17 2012 07:36. Posts 892 | Profile # |
| Wow, that was fast... My fate depends on him flipping Mafia, so I'm a bit nervous. However, I feel more certain since both HiroPro and Dittert haven't stepped out of their lurking ever since my case against HiroPro. This might be a coincidence, but I don't think so... imallinson actually did post, and voted for HiroPro, but that doesn't say much. It was blatantly clear at this point that he would be lynched anyway. My Mafia setup still remains at HiroPro&Dittert&imallinson, although we'll see about that in 25 minutes. |
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| Xatalos Finland. April 17 2012 07:37. Posts 892 | Profile # |
On April 17 2012 07:35 funcmode wrote:
I just want to say as an aside, late last night when I was writing my first proper post trawling through the thread trying to give my opinions some substance, I questioned how anyone could ever find this game even slightly entertaining, it seemed like an epic reading session with minor bouts of arguing here and there. I don't think my opinion could have changed more in the last few hours, this is super intense! :D
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| vonKlaust Sweden. April 17 2012 07:38. Posts 156 | Profile # |
@Xatalos
What do you think about what I wrote earlier on Imallinson and the connection between Dittert and HiroPro?
It wouldn't really make sense for Imallinson to come up with this kind of connection if he actually was scum together with Dittert. At least not while so few votes are on Dittert. It could be an idea if Dittert was about to get lynched, and Hiro is town. It would make him look less suspicious and put some blame on Hiro.
But again, with this few votes on Dittert, that is pretty unlikely.
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| Xatalos Finland. April 17 2012 07:39. Posts 892 | Profile # |
On April 17 2012 07:07 yomi wrote:
It is really down to intuition at this point. Everyone thinks they are super logical and have great cases etc but even the BEST cases of the whole thread are still by an "academic" standpoint really weak. So in my experience playing the sc2 mod mafia are almost ALWAYS quiet. xat talks a lot. hiro is quiet
##Unvote
##vote: Hiropro
bye gg gl I hope when I come back we are winning
Haha, actually I was also introduced to Mafia through SC2. I recommend trying that mod to everyone, although it's very fast-paced and the players are usually pretty dumb/lurkers. |
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| Xatalos Finland. April 17 2012 07:46. Posts 892 | Profile # |
On April 17 2012 07:38 vonKlaust wrote:@Xatalos What do you think about what I wrote earlier on Imallinson and the connection between Dittert and HiroPro?
Show nested quote +It wouldn't really make sense for Imallinson to come up with this kind of connection if he actually was scum together with Dittert. At least not while so few votes are on Dittert. It could be an idea if Dittert was about to get lynched, and Hiro is town. It would make him look less suspicious and put some blame on Hiro.
But again, with this few votes on Dittert, that is pretty unlikely.
Hmm. It could be just imallinson putting some distance between himself and Dittert? I don't think it's weird to FOS your fellow Mafia. Although I can't say for sure that imallinson is Mafia, it might be funcmode or even someone completely different. |
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| funcmode Australia. April 17 2012 07:57. Posts 682 | Profile # |
Well, I've stated twice now that I suspect imallinson quite highly and he's had a couple of chances to address my suspicions but said nothing. Maybe it's because he doesn't think my opinion's are worth much so it's better for him to just ignore them than risk putting himself in the spotlight, though I guess there's potentially town-mentality in that approach too.
Can you explain your reasoning for suspecting me beyond my (up until recently and beyond my control) lurking and the fact that I thought Dittert might be townie after all (though I still maintained high suspicion and many others shared the same opinion at one point or another)? |
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| HiroPro United States. April 17 2012 07:59. Posts 2172 | Profile # |
The Last Will and Testament of HiroPro
Lynch Xatalos. Easy step. Obviously you do that first thing in the daytime. Don't listen to anything he has to say. Don't address him or tell him anything; just lynch him.
DO NOT LISTEN TO WHAT ACROFALES SAYS. I know many of you have Acrofales as a very strong town read. I don't; Acrofales has been a scum read in my notes since day 1. I don't have the time to fully outline a case against Acrofales, but I'll try to summarize my thoughts here. Read through his filter closely. Acrofales does not post actual analysis; instead what he does is call out certain people who are not posting and then proceed to make "connections" between certain people who he will arbitrarily label as scummy. By basing all of his cases on these "connections", Acrofales avoids taking responsibility for votes and reads. Everything is already set out for him and indisputable. These connection posts do not help town; all they do is get people speculating on which people are sided with certain other people and thus must be either both town or both mafia. It distracts from actual reads and scum-hunting. This guy's role is the deceiver.
I have no clear reads on the third mafia member (and the small reads I can post on the people I have not mentioned are not worth posting). Good luck searching for him.
If you think there is some sort of connection between myself and Dittert (aka been listening too much to Acrofales/yomi), get rid of that thought. My flip shows absolutely nothing about Dittert - I have no connection whatsoever to him. He is neither strongly town nor strongly mafia in my view. That being said, I have a slight town read on him. Ignore the first 2 days and evaluate him based on what you see in the coming day/night period. DO NOT LYNCH HIM TOMORROW IF FOR SOME REASON YOU THINK HE IS MAFIA (Lynch Xatalos, then Acrofales).
DO NOT LYNCH FOR INFORMATION. Focus on what people say, how they say it, and go with your strongest mafia read. |
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| Xatalos Finland. April 17 2012 07:59. Posts 892 | Profile # |
On April 17 2012 07:57 funcmode wrote:
Well, I've stated twice now that I suspect imallinson quite highly and he's had a couple of chances to address my suspicions but said nothing. Maybe it's because he doesn't think my opinion's are worth much so it's better for him to just ignore them than risk putting himself in the spotlight, though I guess there's potentially town-mentality in that approach too.
Can you explain your reasoning for suspecting me beyond my (up until recently and beyond my control) lurking and the fact that I thought Dittert might be townie after all (though I still maintained high suspicion and many others shared the same opinion at one point or another)?
Well, you don't really scream Mafia to me... It's just that I have a town read on most players at this point, but not on you yet. I know it's mostly not your fault (entering so late). |
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| vonKlaust Sweden. April 17 2012 08:01. Posts 156 | Profile # |
@Funcmode
I'm not sure your post was directed at me, but I'll answer it anyway!
Actually, I have really liked your recent posting. You seem towny to me. The fact I suspected you was that there was(and still is, but you seem to make an effort to fix it) so little posted by you/trumpetarn. My suspicions were/are pretty much only because of your lurking. |
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| GreYMisT United States. April 17 2012 08:01. Posts 4709 | Profile Blog # |
Night 2 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/592Lc.jpg)
"It seems the players have made their decision! lets see who they choose to remove today!"
The group looked inward, and then pushed HiroPro out onto the clearing.
"You have it all wrong, I have done nothing!"
HiroPro drew a sword that he had stolen the previous night, and was about to charge into the group as a final gambit for his life, but out of nowhere the game officials grabbed him, and he soon found his own sword in his chest, his Green blood running through his shirt.
The Players looked at each other with exasperated stares, knowing that they all had very little time left.
HiroPro, The Doctor, Was lynched
It is now Night 2! Please get all actions into both me and Snarfs. Night ends in 24 hours! |
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| vonKlaust Sweden. April 17 2012 08:02. Posts 156 | Profile # |
Hiro, will you please copy-paste your notes?
Acrofales has been a scum read in my notes since day 1.
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| willz22912 United States. April 17 2012 08:02. Posts 247 | Profile # | |
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| vonKlaust Sweden. April 17 2012 08:02. Posts 156 | Profile # | |
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| HiroPro United States. April 17 2012 08:04. Posts 2172 | Profile # |
gg guys  i ran out of time
gogo town |
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| vonKlaust Sweden. April 17 2012 08:04. Posts 156 | Profile # |
| Well fuck shit my hell. Sucky sucky I don't like this. I need to sleep, good night! |
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| KharadBanar Austria. April 17 2012 08:06. Posts 430 | Profile # |
.......
At least we now have a pretty solid read on Xatalos.
Also with that I'm off for the night, beginning work for my bachelor thesis tomorrow. Good Night! |
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| Xatalos Finland. April 17 2012 08:06. Posts 892 | Profile # |
| ........ Well, my theory is trashed then. I can't believe why he lurked so hard and never defended himself until now though. So, I guess... Dittert and imallinson town? Me and yomi suspicious? I'm not really sure where to go next anymore. |
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| willz22912 United States. April 17 2012 08:07. Posts 247 | Profile # |
That explains Hiro's lurking, he didn't want to draw attention to himself as a blue role.
Sigh, ok town is really fucked at this point since we're going to be at 5-3 at the end of this night. However, I'm taking a harder look at Acro, it was his lead here that got us to lynch Hiro and I know for sure I'm town and he made that case against me. It may be OMGUS on my part, but I'm willing to lynch him D3. |
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| funcmode Australia. April 17 2012 08:10. Posts 682 | Profile # |
| Wow. I'm kind of speechless right now... I'm going to play some Dota while I ponder. |
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