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 MrCon   France. July 01 2012 01:38. Posts 20436
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mTw and Na'vi are above all rest atm imo (well, it's pretty obvious)
I'd still rank mouZ top tier, because they win vs everyone else but those 2 teams. The problem is that they still lose too easily against those teams. If Nav'vi and mTw have a good start they'll "snowball" and roflstomp. And losing to snowball means you're still not solid enough. No one snowball against mTw or Na'vi (cf mTw vs Navi game 1@DH, Navi would have won in 20-30mn against any other West team).
So mouZ is top tier but still not ready to fight the East powerhouses, while I think naviTw are. I think the gosugamers ranking is pretty accurate actually. Navi and mTw are 1400+ teams, mouZ 1300+ team, everyone else is 1200-1300).

PS : I use the snowball stuff just as an example as one thing that separate toptop from just top.
 
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 ItsMeDomLee   Canada. July 01 2012 01:39. Posts 2291
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On July 01 2012 01:38 MrCon wrote:
mTw and Na'vi are above all rest atm imo (well, it's pretty obvious)
I'd still rank mouZ top tier, because they win vs everyone else but those 2 teams. The problem is that they still lose too easily against those teams. If Nav'vi and mTw have a good start they'll "snowball" and roflstomp. And losing to snowball means you're still not solid enough. No one snowball against mTw or Na'vi (cf mTw vs Navi game 1@DH, Navi would have won in 20-30mn against any other West team).
So mouZ is top tier but still not ready to fight the East powerhouses, while I think naviTw are. I think the gosugamers ranking is pretty accurate actually. Navi and mTw are 1400+ teams, mouZ 1300+ team, everyone else is 1200-1300).

PS : I use the snowball stuff just as an example as one thing that separate toptop from just top.



Yet people cry when I use the term 2nd tier. Hello people, 2nd tier still means you're a good team, just not a contender for TI2.
 
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  Kipsate   Netherlands. July 01 2012 01:42. Posts 18170Profile Blog # 
Raaaaaaaampage

That Clinkz.

aaand mtw doing the same strat they used against Mouz.
Last edit: 2012-07-01 01:44:26
Park Ji Yeon/Ye Eun/Kang Min Kyung, T-ara/Wonder Girls/Davichi
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 SilverStar   Sweden. July 01 2012 01:43. Posts 5676
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Ugh.. Clinkz with DD cleaning up hard.
 
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 MrCon   France. July 01 2012 01:43. Posts 20436
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On July 01 2012 01:42 Kipsate wrote:
Raaaaaaaampage

That Clinkz.

Fu, µI just closed the stream as it was a roflstomp to switch to mTw TT Obviously I miss the rampage.
 
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 [17]Purple   United Kingdom. July 01 2012 01:45. Posts 1891
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mTw using push strats seems really odd to me, not really what they are known for but still good anyways. Taking a 2 minute tower.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
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 MrCon   France. July 01 2012 01:45. Posts 20436
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M5 being mouz'ed by mTw xD
 
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 Dattish   Sweden. July 01 2012 01:48. Posts 2752
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funny how mtw was that team that would instantly lose if the game went for longer than 30 mins to a team that is a serious contenter to TI2.
Last edit: 2012-07-01 01:48:44
I play doters
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  Kipsate   Netherlands. July 01 2012 01:51. Posts 18170Profile Blog # 
Scary part about mTw's lineup is that they have a fairly nice lategame too.
Park Ji Yeon/Ye Eun/Kang Min Kyung, T-ara/Wonder Girls/Davichi
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 MrCon   France. July 01 2012 01:51. Posts 20436
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On July 01 2012 01:48 Dattish wrote:
funny how mtw was that team that would instantly lose if the game went for longer than 30 mins to a team that is a serious contenter to TI2.

10 hours of training a day does that (especially while other teams just stream their pub games or even don't train at all)
 
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 Ack1027   United States. July 01 2012 01:52. Posts 7026
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Cmon coL get your shit together...

Also what is this, someone else on TL actually recognizes that mouz is mega overrated?
[ TL's #1 Boxer fan since '04 ]
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 [17]Purple   United Kingdom. July 01 2012 01:53. Posts 1891
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3 man blackhole but no kills for m5... instead QoP and Enigma died.
Last edit: 2012-07-01 01:54:09
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
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 [17]Purple   United Kingdom. July 01 2012 01:53. Posts 1891
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edit: double post
Last edit: 2012-07-01 01:53:57
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
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 cilinder007   Slovenia. July 01 2012 01:57. Posts 3283
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On July 01 2012 01:52 Ack1027 wrote:
Cmon coL get your shit together...

Also what is this, someone else on TL actually recognizes that mouz is mega overrated?

I dono, I think if mouz started practiced as much as they mess around in pubs they could be way better than mtw
 
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  Kipsate   Netherlands. July 01 2012 01:58. Posts 18170Profile Blog # 
lmao kebap has an agha
Park Ji Yeon/Ye Eun/Kang Min Kyung, T-ara/Wonder Girls/Davichi
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 ragnorr   Denmark. July 01 2012 01:59. Posts 3934
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Agha on kebap, such a scary strat mTw is doing
DotA2: Mouz, DK. iG
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 ItsMeDomLee   Canada. July 01 2012 02:02. Posts 2291
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On July 01 2012 01:57 cilinder007 wrote:

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I dono, I think if mouz started practiced as much as they mess around in pubs they could be way better than mtw


Worst thing to say ever. If I was superman I'd be superman.

Reminds me of when the NA and EU scene got dominated by the Chinese back in 2010 and all they could say were that they weren't inferior to the Chinese, just practiced less.
Last edit: 2012-07-01 02:03:37
 
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 MrCon   France. July 01 2012 02:02. Posts 20436
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They need a pipe so their creepwave doesn't get insta destroyed like that.
 
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 MrCon   France. July 01 2012 02:06. Posts 20436
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22mn gg, mTw in a slump =P
 
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 MrCon   France. July 01 2012 02:07. Posts 20436
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When I think they were labelled as a boring team because the way they won DH haha ^^
 
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