| Reedjr United States. May 11 2012 08:27. Posts 227 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 06:16 howLiN wrote: We're not enforcing specific race-changing rules, if someone wants to change their race they can ask us and we'll update your information. The thing is, we have several reasons for not allowing race-picking: we made the teams based on racial balance; it prevents unfair advantages for the race-pickers; having fixed races allows for some recognition of the players (for example, I can tell by the top of my head that Cracken is zerg, ErrantMind is terran, Daxis is protoss, etc); it makes the process of making player statistics easier; it gives more stability to the league overall, etc.
If there's a big reason why players would want to race-pick before each match, that's fine, we can change that. But for now, we should only allow for players to change races for good. Of course, that doesn't mean that you only have one "race-change" available for the season or something like that, it means that if you want to change race you can. Just tell us.
I think howLiN said it best, but I'd like to throw my own 2 cents in:
The main difficulty in race-changing is practice; something most of us have been doing much more since the start of the league. Frankly, it is not fair to know that your opponent is Zerg, and if he thinks you're Toss and practices against that all week but you've just switched to Terran all that preparation is for naught. It's frustrating and sort of a mind game even if those side effects are wholly unintentional. I have no problem with changing races, even multiple times a season, as long as your opponent knows that you will be P/T/Z/random. If you wanted to play a different race than you have listed, you would need to notify your opponent as soon as possible and make absolutely sure he knows the match is different so that practice time is not wasted. |
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| GlintFox United States. May 11 2012 08:50. Posts 272 | Profile Blog # |
On May 11 2012 08:27 Reedjr wrote: Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 06:16 howLiN wrote: We're not enforcing specific race-changing rules, if someone wants to change their race they can ask us and we'll update your information. The thing is, we have several reasons for not allowing race-picking: we made the teams based on racial balance; it prevents unfair advantages for the race-pickers; having fixed races allows for some recognition of the players (for example, I can tell by the top of my head that Cracken is zerg, ErrantMind is terran, Daxis is protoss, etc); it makes the process of making player statistics easier; it gives more stability to the league overall, etc.
If there's a big reason why players would want to race-pick before each match, that's fine, we can change that. But for now, we should only allow for players to change races for good. Of course, that doesn't mean that you only have one "race-change" available for the season or something like that, it means that if you want to change race you can. Just tell us.
I think howLiN said it best, but I'd like to throw my own 2 cents in: The main difficulty in race-changing is practice; something most of us have been doing much more since the start of the league. Frankly, it is not fair to know that your opponent is Zerg, and if he thinks you're Toss and practices against that all week but you've just switched to Terran all that preparation is for naught. It's frustrating and sort of a mind game even if those side effects are wholly unintentional. I have no problem with changing races, even multiple times a season, as long as your opponent knows that you will be P/T/Z/random. If you wanted to play a different race than you have listed, you would need to notify your opponent as soon as possible and make absolutely sure he knows the match is different so that practice time is not wasted.
I agree with what reed said 200%. |
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| PAYBACKfire United States. May 11 2012 22:09. Posts 31 | Profile # |
Same here. Race changing definitely shouldn't be used to gain any sort of competitive advantage.
Anyone know how the TKP vs. Galaxy matches are going? I'm curious as to who will be our new league overlord after this week 
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| SoloTen United States. May 12 2012 01:32. Posts 14 | Profile # |
On May 11 2012 22:09 PAYBACKfire wrote:Anyone know how the TKP vs. Galaxy matches are going? I'm curious as to who will be our new league overlord after this week 
There won't be a new one. <3 |
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| LosZergs United States. May 12 2012 01:37. Posts 99 | Profile # | |
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| FlyingSteaks Brazil. May 12 2012 01:40. Posts 60 | Profile # |
On May 12 2012 01:32 SoloTen wrote: Show nested quote +On May 11 2012 22:09 PAYBACKfire wrote:Anyone know how the TKP vs. Galaxy matches are going? I'm curious as to who will be our new league overlord after this week 
There won't be a new one. <3
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| PAYBACK-SXE United States. May 12 2012 03:02. Posts 150 | Profile # |
any update on the issue that came up on the ctl chat room last night? I can't even remember the player, but he's a bronze, bt he's not a bronze, but he is a bronze....you all remember what I'm talking about if you were on last night, just curious if there is any kind of official decision there or what the status is at the moment. was quite the hot button item last night.
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| howLiN Portugal. May 12 2012 03:13. Posts 1527 | Profile Blog # |
On May 12 2012 03:02 PAYBACK-SXE wrote: any update on the issue that came up on the ctl chat room last night? I can't even remember the player, but he's a bronze, bt he's not a bronze, but he is a bronze....you all remember what I'm talking about if you were on last night, just curious if there is any kind of official decision there or what the status is at the moment. was quite the hot button item last night.
We've been discussing that since yesterday and you're gonna hear from us soon regarding that matter. |
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| PAYBACK-SXE United States. May 12 2012 03:28. Posts 150 | Profile # |
| sounds cool guys, good luck deliberating |
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| GlintFox United States. May 12 2012 04:10. Posts 272 | Profile Blog # |
On May 12 2012 03:02 PAYBACK-SXE wrote: any update on the issue that came up on the ctl chat room last night? I can't even remember the player, but he's a bronze, bt he's not a bronze, but he is a bronze....you all remember what I'm talking about if you were on last night, just curious if there is any kind of official decision there or what the status is at the moment. was quite the hot button item last night.
I believe you're speaking of neurosis.
Regarding galaxy vs tkp.. it's been hell trying to schedule this week due to everyones finals. A game should be played tonight tho  |
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| PAYBACK-SXE United States. May 12 2012 04:22. Posts 150 | Profile # |
| gl hf to both and all teams this weekend! |
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| milodon Chile. May 12 2012 04:38. Posts 42 | Profile # |
| Im kind of lost.... what happened in the chat room? |
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| GlintFox United States. May 12 2012 04:43. Posts 272 | Profile Blog # |
On May 12 2012 04:22 PAYBACK-SXE wrote: gl hf to both and all teams this weekend!
Besides everyone and their mother taking finals I think this week will have some great games! Glglgl to everyone! |
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| jabberwockzerg United States. May 12 2012 04:52. Posts 195 | Profile Blog # |
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| Dasende United States. May 12 2012 07:58. Posts 860 | Profile # |
| Apologies for being a bit AWOL this week as well, still dealing with moving and other issues. Especially with K^2's router not working hopefully everything is working out for BM vs Evo. I should be back up to full speed soon... I hope. >_> |
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| PAYBACK-SXE United States. May 12 2012 09:03. Posts 150 | Profile # |
On May 12 2012 07:58 Dasende wrote: Apologies for being a bit AWOL this week as well, still dealing with moving and other issues. Especially with K^2's router not working hopefully everything is working out for BM vs Evo. I should be back up to full speed soon... I hope. >_>
Dasende.is.coming.back.fucking.soon.
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| LeeDawg United States. May 12 2012 12:43. Posts 711 | Profile # | |
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| Ksquared United States. May 12 2012 13:11. Posts 1584 | Profile # |
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| HaZardous47 United States. May 12 2012 13:16. Posts 106 | Profile # |
On May 12 2012 12:43 LeeDawg wrote: galaxy so EZ
Youve BMd me spectating, youve BMmd me about playing, and youve sat there BMing me literally all night long in CTL chat. You do nothing but BM and its quite frankly ridiculous. I thought this was done with, zefreak said it was, but you continued to BM even when I was gone in chat, and now this. Can you just leave please? you make this leauge pleasant for no one besides yourself with all of this useless BM. |
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| LeeDawg United States. May 12 2012 13:22. Posts 711 | Profile # |
On May 12 2012 13:16 HaZardous47 wrote:Youve BMd me spectating, youve BMmd me about playing, and youve sat there BMing me literally all night long in CTL chat. You do nothing but BM and its quite frankly ridiculous. I thought this was done with, zefreak said it was, but you continued to BM even when I was gone in chat, and now this. Can you just leave please? you make this leauge pleasant for no one besides yourself with all of this useless BM.
You've complained while spectating, you've complained about me playing, and you've sat there complaining literally all night long in CTL chat. you do nothing but complain and its quite frankly ridiculous. I thought this was done with, but you continued to complain in chat and now this. Can you just leave please? you make this league pleasant for no one besides yourself with all this useless complaining |
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