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| Mattchew United States. April 28 2012 11:44. Posts 5120 | Profile Blog # |
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| PaqMan United States. April 28 2012 11:53. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
+ Show Spoiler [ottox] +
On April 25 2012 08:03 Ottoxlol wrote:Risengonzaws case against him He tried to defend VE, but with not the best tools
Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 08:18 gonzaw wrote:
He just opposes the VE lynch for the sake of opposing it, and seems to ignore everything else that had to do with VE and VE's behaviour. It makes it seem like he wouldn't even care about VE at all and only cared about opposing his lynch.
After that he starts to rally people to other candidates (marv/bm). He explained that he did FoS these people only because they had votes on them so it would have been easier to get ahead of VE. I think his reasoning is clear, I find him town.
On April 26 2012 08:52 Ottoxlol wrote:
So its seems like ill get lynched, ill post my thoughts
MG + Risen are most likely scum.
Zeph Sent Mementoss laya are my other candidates.
Zeph had some very strange logic and posts
Sent is getting better, but the VE lynch is still there.
Mementoss said his problem with me that i did not scumhunt at all, I posted the case on VE d1, d2 I tried to be helpful, posted case, took a stance, he did not lift his vote contrary to his post.
laya stated that i am most likely town, zeph is maybe then he voted me for the kill.
On April 27 2012 03:55 Ottoxlol wrote:
Risen: he is more likely a townie that made a mistake with his swap, I don't see why a scum would do anything like this
Brood: since it was a double town vote I doubt that a scum would wait for the last minute, its good for them anyway, why wait?
Ottox's play is off. The quick switch in opinion? Scummy.
On April 27 2012 04:51 Ottoxlol wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 04:35 layabout wrote:
ghost you may want to do some redirecting:
JK's stay the hell away from ottox, if you want to block a goon go for BK (or maybe MG) instead.
Vig's shoot the crap out of ottox. When he flips red we will be in a great position. On the outside chance that he flips green then we will know we are on the wrong track.
Trackers on Risen or BK or MG.
If he were scum he would have voted before mat and laya so I wouldve lived without Risens help.
On April 27 2012 05:10 Ottoxlol wrote:
I pointed out that is a mistake in his argument. I think BK is town. If JK/Tracker thinks I am scum, pointing out the uselessness of tracking or jailing BK is good.
On April 27 2012 05:16 Ottoxlol wrote:
no, he says to jail and or track BK when if I am scum its worthless since that would mean BK is town.
On April 27 2012 05:21 Ottoxlol wrote:
If you think i am 100% scum then BK is town. the votes were 7 6 for Zeph at 07:26, plenty of time till the deadline with you and Matt saying you will vote for me. If he would have been scum he could easily voted before you guys (08:36) making the Risen switch unnecessary
hardcore defense of BK. I think he's trying to incriminate BK, if ottox flips scum. I don't see a reason for Ottox to defend BK more than he's defending himself.
Am I the only one who thinks that ottox's posting has gotten worst?
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compared to:
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I know it's sad, this is all I could come up with. I wrote up spoilers on BK and MG but they got deleted. So here's a watered-down copy of it.
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On April 27 2012 14:28 MidnightGladius wrote:
I haven't been giving this game the attention I should, between cohosting, work, and term papers. I can see that my play this game was been really lacking, and I just haven't been feeling my reads. I've been hedging my posts, because I honestly haven't felt the same kind of conviction with my cases.
That said, mislynching me will cost us the game. You're just going to have to trust me. The fact that a bunch of townies have been pushing for me is disheartening, but I'm sure that you will find scum trying to hammer me today.
If you couldn't commit as much as you wanted to, why would you sign up for the game? I know that real life kicks in and unexpected things happen, but come on dude /:
That said, mislynching me will cost us the game. You're just going to have to trust me.
That's asking a lot, considering what you've given us the past few days. Town's goal is to kill scum and win, and you haven't been helping us. Instead of telling us that lynching you will lose Town the game, why don't you start trying to make us reconsider your alignment?
The fact that a bunch of townies have been pushing for me is disheartening,
yes, most people have tagged you as part of the scum team. So why aren't you doing anything to prove us wrong??? Why aren't you doing anything to convince us otherwise?? Your posts at the beginning of the game were well-thought and nicely put together, but the quality has dropped since. If it is so "disheartening" to you then please do something to change my mind.
+ Show Spoiler [BK] +Before I looked up on him I was suspicious of BK as scum though I'm not sure why. After reading through BK's filter with a scum point-of-view, it didn't make much sense to me. He hasn't pushed forward any type of scum agenda or anything to incriminate him as scummy. His posts have been pretty consistent with each other as well.
So far I think our lynch is between Ottox and Risen. |
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| PaqMan United States. April 28 2012 13:30. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Janaan United States. April 28 2012 13:39. Posts 320 | Profile # |
On April 28 2012 09:17 marvellosity wrote:
I really really want everyone's opinion's on this Risen making a case on Ottoxlol business.
It's interesting. It does make it less likely that they are scumbuddies. Still possible, of course, but less likely.
Taking that one step further, into the realm of WIFOM, if they are not scumbuddies, that obviously would make Risen's vote switch a legitimate accident either way. It makes most logical sense then that Risen is town, because there wouldn't be any reason for scum to switch from one mislynch to another while drawing that much attention to themselves. I would conclude that if we assume that they are not scumbuddies because of the early pressure from Risen to Ottox, it's most likely that Risen is town. We can't really tell anything about Ottox from this specifically in my opinion. |
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| PaqMan United States. April 28 2012 13:49. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
I think BM would be a good candidate as well. Scum goals aren't necessarily to survive, but to survive long enough to force town to make errors. So far he's been able to survive by doing the bare minimum, while we've managed to lynch two townies.
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On April 23 2012 16:32 Bill Murray wrote:
Oh, and Mattchew, the reason I play is because I love the game
Just because I like to coast by D1 sometimes doesn't mean I'm not going to be posting more on subsequent days. We're in the early phase. There is not a single game where I drastically help the town that I'm not wagonned d1, after all scum find me an easy mislynch.
He's about to coast by his 3rd day. He's picked up the activity more than what it was on D1, but it is still over the bare-minimum.
On April 24 2012 06:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 09:14 marvellosity wrote:
VE should be banned for ragequitting.
adding marvellosity to my townreads on my power point with mattchew and that guy who asked to vig me im going to have something for you guys tomorrow in terms of a dedicated postsee you all then 
It has been 3 days since this post. BM I would like to see this power point that you have.
On April 27 2012 10:55 Bill Murray wrote:
I've had an important day in real life. Sorry I haven't been as active as I'd like.
If I do not make it into tomorrow, I would like to out my townreads:
Layabout
Mattchew
Mementoss
Janaan
Marvelosity
Paqman
Scum:
Ottoxlul
St.Daniel
JohnnyWup
This is BM's only contribution and even then it barely gives us any insight. I would be cool with lynching BM. |
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| Janaan United States. April 28 2012 14:03. Posts 320 | Profile # |
| I still don't feel good about lynching BM. Yeah, he's been getting by with very little, but I think we should be able to find scum out of the people who have given us posts to look at first and leave BM until later. Maybe I'm just too hopeful that he'll actually turn out to be useful later on. |
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| PaqMan United States. April 28 2012 16:06. Posts 1403 | Profile Blog # |
On April 25 2012 11:58 Janaan wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 11:20 marvellosity wrote:
I'd like a couple of other people to answer on Sentinel too (jdub, BM as you're here for a change)
Sentinel has slowly started looking better with his last couple posts, so I suppose he does have that going for him.
On April 25 2012 14:39 Janaan wrote:
Voting before I go to bed. In keeping with my prior suspicions:
##Vote: Zepherrd
I'll be back on tomorrow a few hours before the deadline. Start consolidating those votes, right now we have them FAR too spread out. It would be too easy for scum to force a no lynch if things stay the way they are.
You said in the first post you'd rather have Zepherdd or Ottoxlol lynched. So what made you choose Zepherdd over Ottox?
And what made you change your mind about BM? You seemed content with voting him D1.
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| Janaan United States. April 28 2012 16:29. Posts 320 | Profile # |
On April 28 2012 16:06 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 11:58 Janaan wrote:
On April 25 2012 11:20 marvellosity wrote:
I'd like a couple of other people to answer on Sentinel too (jdub, BM as you're here for a change)
Sentinel is still scummy to me right now, at the moment, though, I'd prefer a Zepherrd or Ottoxlol lynch today. Sentinel has slowly started looking better with his last couple posts, so I suppose he does have that going for him.
Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 14:39 Janaan wrote:
Voting before I go to bed. In keeping with my prior suspicions:
##Vote: Zepherrd
I'll be back on tomorrow a few hours before the deadline. Start consolidating those votes, right now we have them FAR too spread out. It would be too easy for scum to force a no lynch if things stay the way they are.
You said in the first post you'd rather have Zepherdd or Ottoxlol lynched. So what made you choose Zepherdd over Ottox? And what made you change your mind about BM? You seemed content with voting him D1.
It was actually for basically the same reason why I don't like so many people voting Ottoxlol now. I found both of them pretty equally scummy, I thought there was a pretty good chance that they were both scum. At the time that I voted, there were 4 on Ottoxlol and with my vote, 2 on Zepherrd with about 20 hours to go until the lynch, and if I voted Ottoxlol, that could potentially stop people from talking, since we already would have a large number of people voting for him. Also, if it WAS a mislynch, it would be very easy for scum to hop on the bandwagon with us none the wiser. I knew that I would be able to be back before the lynch occurred so I could change my vote if something happened making Ottoxlol scummier or Zepherdd townier, so I voted for Zepherrd. It may not be a *great* reason, but it made sense to me at the time.
About BM, there's a huge difference between voting for a lurker on Day 1 when there's not much information on anyone and saying that a lurker is the best shot we have at scum on Day 3. It's not that I don't find his play scummy, it's just that he could just as easily be town. I think we have a better chance hitting scum if we use what information we have on the people who HAVE been posting than we do lynching someone who we really don't have any idea about. |
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| marvellosity United Kingdom. April 28 2012 19:52. Posts 11328 | Profile # |
No, he's made a couple of posts urging town to talk about things and not just tunnel. Imo mafia would not be encouraging town discussion this way. |
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| Bill Murray United States. April 28 2012 20:27. Posts 7055 | Profile Blog # |
On April 27 2012 09:11 Mementoss wrote:
Also I think Risen is town, who just made a pressure mistake, mafia wouldn't bring that attention to themselves like that I dont think, and planning that weird tie breaker abuse seems like much. Lynch Ottoxlol before risen, if ottoxol flips goon it makes total sense RIsen is GF, if not I wouldn't loook into Risen because of the voting fact at least.
I disagree with you about Risen + Ottox not being scum together, and so did Mementoss.
Guess where he is? Oh, yeah, dead. |
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| Bill Murray United States. April 28 2012 20:28. Posts 7055 | Profile Blog # |
p.s. since when was mementoss a tracker?
here I have been thinking we're in a good position
fucking disheartening |
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| marvellosity United Kingdom. April 28 2012 20:28. Posts 11328 | Profile # |
On April 28 2012 20:27 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 09:11 Mementoss wrote:
Also I think Risen is town, who just made a pressure mistake, mafia wouldn't bring that attention to themselves like that I dont think, and planning that weird tie breaker abuse seems like much. Lynch Ottoxlol before risen, if ottoxol flips goon it makes total sense RIsen is GF, if not I wouldn't loook into Risen because of the voting fact at least.
I disagree with you about Risen + Ottox not being scum together, and so did Mementoss. Guess where he is? Oh, yeah, dead.
Please don't tell me this is your only contribution for the day
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| BroodKingEXE United States. April 29 2012 01:04. Posts 795 | Profile Blog # |
On April 27 2012 07:35 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 07:26 Mementoss wrote:
On April 27 2012 07:22 marvellosity wrote:
And Bill Murray still says nothing, nor St. Daniel.
St.Daniel = Inactive BillMurray = Lurking imo
Yeah, seeing as St. D was sick and dropped out of his other game, I think that dude's just inactive. I'd rather have Ottox or Risen lynched over BM. But BM hasn't done anything helpful so I'm not sure what we should do about him.
Why is he still in this game then? He chose to secretly vote for Zephirdd in order to stay in the game. If he was really an inactive he would have stuck to his guns and quit this game too. That's why I think he is a lurking scum, sure he was sick for a time, but him staying doesn't make sense. |
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| BroodKingEXE United States. April 29 2012 01:08. Posts 795 | Profile Blog # |
On April 28 2012 20:28 Bill Murray wrote:
p.s. since when was mementoss a tracker?
here I have been thinking we're in a good position
fucking disheartening
Wow so scummy, so far we've had 7 townies killed and 1 blue (according to you -_-). Great position!!!! (sarcasm intended)
You're going to die for this: ##Vote: Bill Murray |
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| BroodKingEXE United States. April 29 2012 01:15. Posts 795 | Profile Blog # |
On April 28 2012 20:27 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 09:11 Mementoss wrote:
Also I think Risen is town, who just made a pressure mistake, mafia wouldn't bring that attention to themselves like that I dont think, and planning that weird tie breaker abuse seems like much. Lynch Ottoxlol before risen, if ottoxol flips goon it makes total sense RIsen is GF, if not I wouldn't loook into Risen because of the voting fact at least.
I disagree with you about Risen + Ottox not being scum together, and so did Mementoss. Guess where he is? Oh, yeah, dead.
Are you crazy?! Mementoss is dead why are talking to him!!! |
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| johnnywup United States. April 29 2012 01:18. Posts 2743 | Profile Blog # |
bkexe, you're going to kill him because he thought that town was in a good position(wrong but hows that scummy?).
I'm not saying he's not scummy, he is, but hows he any more scummy than St,Daniel, etc? |
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| Mattchew United States. April 29 2012 01:19. Posts 5120 | Profile Blog # |
On April 29 2012 01:15 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 20:27 Bill Murray wrote:
On April 27 2012 09:11 Mementoss wrote:
Also I think Risen is town, who just made a pressure mistake, mafia wouldn't bring that attention to themselves like that I dont think, and planning that weird tie breaker abuse seems like much. Lynch Ottoxlol before risen, if ottoxol flips goon it makes total sense RIsen is GF, if not I wouldn't loook into Risen because of the voting fact at least.
I disagree with you about Risen + Ottox not being scum together, and so did Mementoss. Guess where he is? Oh, yeah, dead.
Are you crazy?! Mementoss is dead why are talking to him!!!
So you don't listening to the thoughts of confirmed townies? Interesting, another soft defense of ottox/risen |
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| Mattchew United States. April 29 2012 01:19. Posts 5120 | Profile Blog # |
| and if we still had 2 blues left we would be in a good position |
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| Janaan United States. April 29 2012 01:19. Posts 320 | Profile # |
On April 29 2012 01:08 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 20:28 Bill Murray wrote:
p.s. since when was mementoss a tracker?
here I have been thinking we're in a good position
fucking disheartening
Wow so scummy, so far we've had 7 townies killed and 1 blue (according to you -_-). Great position!!!! (sarcasm intended) You're going to die for this: ##Vote: Bill Murray
So according to you, the scum strat for this game is lurk-to-win. Do you have any scum reads that aren't lurkers? You've been saying for a while that we should be looking into the lurkers, so it's not really a problem that you're doing that, but so far, after day 1, the only people besides Zepherrd that you've called scum are lurkers. I.E. Easy targets, who don't require much of a case to call scum. |
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| [UoN]Sentinel United States. April 29 2012 01:20. Posts 2543 | Profile Blog # |
On April 29 2012 01:19 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 01:15 BroodKingEXE wrote:
On April 28 2012 20:27 Bill Murray wrote:
On April 27 2012 09:11 Mementoss wrote:
Also I think Risen is town, who just made a pressure mistake, mafia wouldn't bring that attention to themselves like that I dont think, and planning that weird tie breaker abuse seems like much. Lynch Ottoxlol before risen, if ottoxol flips goon it makes total sense RIsen is GF, if not I wouldn't loook into Risen because of the voting fact at least.
I disagree with you about Risen + Ottox not being scum together, and so did Mementoss. Guess where he is? Oh, yeah, dead.
Are you crazy?! Mementoss is dead why are talking to him!!!
So you don't listening to the thoughts of confirmed townies? Interesting, another soft defense of ottox/risen
I was about to say something like this but I accidentally hit the refresh button.
And dead people's thoughts are important because it opens up the question "did they piss someone off and that person was gunning for them?" |
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