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| MaxSteel April 16 2012 08:03. Posts 78 | Profile Blog # |
Hi again, TL forums
Last time I was in Tech Support, I needed some help with the mouse. That is all great now, but apparently, I identified a new problem - the mouse pad.
The mouse pad itself is Razer Scarab, and the problem, well - it is simply too good. You probably know that hard mouse pads are designed to have high glide - well, the glide on this one is so high, that the mouse cruiser dances slightly on my screen while I'm typing this - and no, I most of it relatively lightly.
But, as you may know, the higher the glide is, the lower the grip is - and on this pad, the grip equals nearly zero. Problem is, it just screws up many things - including clicking a single unit out of many (microing marines), or moving the mouse just slightly (when it's on one SCV, and I wanna move the cruiser to the SCv near it), to just some retarded things as the cruiser jumping slightly upwards or left from the "force" of my left-click. Of course, those things can be avoided, but that actually makes me use the wrist muscles quite intensively, which could be ok for one or two games (30~50 minutes), but after that the wrist pain will not be worth it - not to mention it is also, apparently, unhealthy.
Still, this pad does amazing job in times when I need speed more than accuracy - such as Tera (which is my main game), or CS:S (which I play casually, and don't use sniper zoom since I got this pad).
So, I mainly have two options:
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First, I could sell this pad (not return, since I threw the box - not the holder - but still, sell for at least 70% of original price) and buy a Megasoma.
Thing is, I find it hard to believe Megasoma got BOTH speed and control - as far as I know, if the glide is higher, the grip is lower, and vice versa. It could be this pad has somehow good stats in both aspects, but I can't believe it without some people here who actually used/have it, testifying to it (lol, cruiser still dancing all over the place). Since, essentially, I need both speed and conrtol for different games (and, well, other stuff like browsing sites).
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I could also leave this one, and buy a Razer Goliathus - Control Edition (not TL edition, sorry). I'll be switching between the pads, depeding on what I do - which is, well, 60% I'll be on the Scarab (playing Tera), and 40% or so I'll be on Goliathus, generally browsing the internet, doing HW, playing SC2 and so on.
So, what should I do?
Poll: What should I do?Buy a Goliathus (21) 91% Buy a Megasoma and keep the Scarab (2) 9% Buy a Megasoma and sell the Scarab (0) 0% 23 total votes Your vote: What should I do? (Vote): Buy a Goliathus
(Vote): Buy a Megasoma and sell the Scarab
(Vote): Buy a Megasoma and keep the Scarab
PS
I even had trouble pressing those tiny circles when creating the poll, until I was forced to actually grip the mouse forcefully and click every cirlcle - that's how annoying this pad is.
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 JingleHell United States. April 16 2012 08:07. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
Go to a nearby store, buy several surfaces, test them, and return all but your favorite.
That's what I tend to do, and strongly suggest. Surface is just too much a combination of personal preference, bitchy sensors, and desk.
Although I'm pretty sure it's impossible to go wrong with a QXC. |
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| Absurd Bunny April 16 2012 08:07. Posts 140 | Profile # |
What mouse do you have? Some mouses work better on other mousepads, and so on...
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| ManTrain Denmark. April 16 2012 08:25. Posts 126 | Profile # |
Have you considered the QCK Mass? I don't know if it's the same, but I have a QXG mouse pad (not mass) and I love it. I also had a hard pad before, which totally wasn't me.
On April 16 2012 08:07 JingleHell wrote:
Go to a nearby store, buy several surfaces, test them, and return all but your favorite.
That's what I tend to do, and strongly suggest. Surface is just too much a combination of personal preference, bitchy sensors, and desk.
Although I'm pretty sure it's impossible to go wrong with a QXC.
Do you mean QCK? Just wondering  Last edit: 2012-04-16 08:26:49 |
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| JingleHell United States. April 16 2012 08:27. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
On April 16 2012 08:25 ManTrain wrote:Have you considered the QCK Mass? I don't know if it's the same, but I have a QXG mouse pad (not mass) and I love it. I also had a hard pad before, which totally wasn't me.
Show nested quote +On April 16 2012 08:07 JingleHell wrote:
Go to a nearby store, buy several surfaces, test them, and return all but your favorite.
That's what I tend to do, and strongly suggest. Surface is just too much a combination of personal preference, bitchy sensors, and desk.
Although I'm pretty sure it's impossible to go wrong with a QXC.
Do you mean QCK? Just wondering
The mass is just thicker. I love mine.
On April 16 2012 08:25 ManTrain wrote:Have you considered the QCK Mass? I don't know if it's the same, but I have a QXG mouse pad (not mass) and I love it. I also had a hard pad before, which totally wasn't me.
Show nested quote +On April 16 2012 08:07 JingleHell wrote:
Go to a nearby store, buy several surfaces, test them, and return all but your favorite.
That's what I tend to do, and strongly suggest. Surface is just too much a combination of personal preference, bitchy sensors, and desk.
Although I'm pretty sure it's impossible to go wrong with a QXC.
Do you mean QCK? Just wondering
Yes. Brain is slow today, slept like shit. Thanks.Last edit: 2012-04-16 08:28:21 |
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| GodRcane7 Canada. April 16 2012 09:06. Posts 14 | Profile # |
On April 16 2012 08:07 JingleHell wrote:
Although I'm pretty sure it's impossible to go wrong with a QXC.
How could you ever go wrong with one of the most awesome Terran SC2 players in the world? :D:D:D:D:D |
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| Reflect.702 Canada. April 16 2012 09:40. Posts 16 | Profile # |
| I have a QCK as well, and it's really nice~ |
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| B-Wong United States. April 16 2012 10:27. Posts 239 | Profile # |
Qck here as well, it's pretty cool. Cloth pads are awesome in general. Except for when you have cats. Fuck cats.
Using a G9x, don't notice any inaccuracies or anything, the glide and control seem to be perfect for me.Last edit: 2012-04-16 10:27:53 |
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 Jibba United States. April 16 2012 11:22. Posts 20231 | Profile Blog # |
An Artisan pad is better than all of them.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=me%3DA2F6Y70JPB72GF&field-keywords=artisan+pad
I believe Hien is slower than Shiden-Kai/Hayate, but it's also a lot cheaper. They're also designed to be a bit quicker horizontally than vertically. Artisan is literally the best mouse pad maker atm. Or the Puretrak Talent, but that thing is enormous.
On April 16 2012 08:07 JingleHell wrote:
Although I'm pretty sure it's impossible to go wrong with a QXC.
The Abyssus and DA3.5G sensors don't play nicely with the qck. They might've fixed it with the newer revisions, but I know the old ones don't.Last edit: 2012-04-16 11:23:59 |
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| Alryk United States. April 16 2012 11:24. Posts 2237 | Profile Blog # |
I like my QCK for my G400  |
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| DreamChaser April 16 2012 11:27. Posts 1632 | Profile Blog # |
| I have a mini laptop pad form walmart about 3$ and i must say i don't know what a "good" mousepad feels like but i know this one doesn't suck, it got me to masters haha |
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| Jibba United States. April 16 2012 11:32. Posts 20231 | Profile Blog # |
On April 16 2012 11:27 DreamChaser wrote:
I have a mini laptop pad form walmart about 3$ and i must say i don't know what a "good" mousepad feels like but i know this one doesn't suck, it got me to masters haha
Well, gaming peripherals are a lot like golf accessories. They really won't hold a good player back, but as soon as you start thinking about them you can't stop fidgeting with them. |
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| wo1fwood United States. April 16 2012 11:52. Posts 2271 | Profile Blog # |
On April 16 2012 11:22 Jibba wrote:An Artisan pad is better than all of them. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=me%3DA2F6Y70JPB72GF&field-keywords=artisan+padI believe Hien is slower than Shiden-Kai/Hayate, but it's also a lot cheaper. They're also designed to be a bit quicker horizontally than vertically. Artisan is literally the best mouse pad maker atm. Or the Puretrak Talent, but that thing is enormous.
Show nested quote +On April 16 2012 08:07 JingleHell wrote:
Although I'm pretty sure it's impossible to go wrong with a QXC.
The Abyssus and DA3.5G sensors don't play nicely with the qck. They might've fixed it with the newer revisions, but I know the old ones don't.
Or you could go straight to Artisan for them. 
http://www.artisan-jp.com/all_eng.html |
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| Jibba United States. April 16 2012 12:14. Posts 20231 | Profile Blog # |
| Well it's about the same price or cheaper from that reseller, but you can get quicker delivery and no customs. |
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| wo1fwood United States. April 17 2012 00:29. Posts 2271 | Profile Blog # |
On April 16 2012 12:14 Jibba wrote:
Well it's about the same price or cheaper from that reseller, but you can get quicker delivery and no customs.
Yea very good points. I have been tempted to get one myself bc of the prices on Amazon. I just figured I'd let ppl know that you can go straight to them as well. |
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| MugenXBanksy United States. April 17 2012 00:55. Posts 382 | Profile # |
bro i don't know what you are talking about I have the scarab ands not hard if you have a flat surface and don't have your sensitivity turned up high as hell.
btw I have a mamba paired with the pad that probably is irrelavent to it.
but the goliathus is a good pad my buddy has it played on it a could times pretty good feel. Just abit large though I am aware you can get one that isn't a million miles wide lol |
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| MaxSteel April 17 2012 01:11. Posts 78 | Profile Blog # |
My scarab is medium-large.
Anyway, I did buy a Goliathus, medium size (smaller than the Scarab), and with acceleration of 20% turned on, and full (4k) dpi, it does amazingly.
Thanks everybody for the responses! |
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| blueslobster Germany. April 17 2012 18:17. Posts 271 | Profile # |
On April 16 2012 08:03 MaxSteel wrote:
... The mouse pad itself is Razer Scarab, and the problem, well - it is simply too good. You probably know that hard mouse pads are designed to have high glide - well, the glide on this one is so high, that the mouse cruiser dances slightly on my screen while I'm typing this - and no, I most of it relatively lightly.
But, as you may know, the higher the glide is, the lower the grip is - and on this pad, the grip equals nearly zero. Problem is, it just screws up many things - including clicking a single unit out of many (microing marines), or moving the mouse just slightly (when it's on one SCV, and I wanna move the cruiser to the SCv near it), to just some retarded things as the cruiser jumping slightly upwards or left from the "force" of my left-click. Of course, those things can be avoided, but that actually makes me use the wrist muscles quite intensively, which could be ok for one or two games (30~50 minutes), but after that the wrist pain will not be worth it - not to mention it is also, apparently, unhealthy ...
First off: ingore comments a la "I have used mousepad x for the past x years. It's the best."
Going to a store to try out different pads is a good idea. Unfortunately I don't know any store which has the already mentioned Artisan mousepads. Many of those with more than 10 mousepads at home think that Artisan mousepads are state of the art in "mousepad technology". There is a comparative review coming up in a little while (over at overclock.net), which will host a variety of mousepads (Artisan, SteelSeries, Zowie, Puretrak). If you are able to wait, that test could prove to be very useful (forget mousepad tests on hardware sites).
On a different matter: the problems you desribe could also be the result of a high sensitivity (too much CPI!). Have you tried lowering it? |
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| MaxSteel April 18 2012 02:32. Posts 78 | Profile Blog # |
Actually, the source of the problem was apperantly the removal of acceleration, combined with the uber-high DPI - once I put 3 (out of 10, witch is 30%) acceleration back, and lowered the DPI to 3875, it all went amazingly better, on both mouse pads.
Still, I like them both, so I definitely don't regret spending ~26$ on the Control Goliathus. |
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| blueslobster Germany. April 18 2012 19:13. Posts 271 | Profile # |
On April 18 2012 02:32 MaxSteel wrote:
... once I put 3 (out of 10, witch is 30%) acceleration back, and lowered the DPI to 3875 ...
I would suggest using your fastest mousepad, deactivating acceleration completely and halving your CPI. |
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