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| corpuscle United States. April 17 2012 17:32. Posts 1930 | Profile Blog # |
On April 17 2012 17:28 Thylacine wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 17:25 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:23 Thylacine wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:07 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:02 Thylacine wrote:
Can someone answer me? My post is pretty far down at page 21.
of course it is true and what do you mean by "what type" ...
As I understand a transgender is either a ''biological man with a vagina'' or a ''biological woman with a penis''. So how is it? Because thats what transgender is?
no scarlett was born a man, physically, but felt like a woman inside
Ok but I don't think she sounds or looks like a man, does she still have male genital, tho? That's what im wondering
Irrelevant. She's a girl.
edit: like seriously do people genuinely think that if she has a cock and balls it somehow affects her starcraft play? this is so stupid.Last edit: 2012-04-17 17:32:51 |
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| imMUTAble787 United States. April 17 2012 17:33. Posts 575 | Profile # |
On April 17 2012 17:28 Thylacine wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 17:25 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:23 Thylacine wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:07 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:02 Thylacine wrote:
Can someone answer me? My post is pretty far down at page 21.
of course it is true and what do you mean by "what type" ...
As I understand a transgender is either a ''biological man with a vagina'' or a ''biological woman with a penis''. So how is it? Because thats what transgender is?
no scarlett was born a man, physically, but felt like a woman inside
Ok but I don't think she sounds or looks like a man, does she still have male genital, tho? That's what im wondering
yeah you don't sound creepy at all.
i gotta say out of the teams i figured would sign her i forgot all about eclypsia |
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| Youtakenocandle April 17 2012 17:35. Posts 540 | Profile # |
On April 17 2012 17:28 Thylacine wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 17:25 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:23 Thylacine wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:07 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:02 Thylacine wrote:
Can someone answer me? My post is pretty far down at page 21.
of course it is true and what do you mean by "what type" ...
As I understand a transgender is either a ''biological man with a vagina'' or a ''biological woman with a penis''. So how is it? Because thats what transgender is?
no scarlett was born a man, physically, but felt like a woman inside
Ok but I don't think she sounds or looks like a man, does she still have male genital, tho? That's what im wondering
Yeah that's really your business. |
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| ceaRshaf Romania. April 17 2012 17:35. Posts 4884 | Profile # |
Back on topic, I think she could have done better with another team. She can be top tier and we don't even know it.
In the end we all start small. |
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| corpuscle United States. April 17 2012 17:38. Posts 1930 | Profile Blog # |
On April 17 2012 17:35 ceaRshaf wrote:
Back on topic, I think she could have done better with another team. She can be top tier and we don't even know it.
In the end we all start small.
Eclypsia is better than people give credit for, and, as I said before, she entertained offers from a higher-profile team and decided to go with EC because she liked the environment/players. It's not all about money and name recognition. |
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| AdrianHealey Belgium. April 17 2012 17:46. Posts 480 | Profile # |
On April 17 2012 17:28 Thylacine wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 17:25 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:23 Thylacine wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:07 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:02 Thylacine wrote:
Can someone answer me? My post is pretty far down at page 21.
of course it is true and what do you mean by "what type" ...
As I understand a transgender is either a ''biological man with a vagina'' or a ''biological woman with a penis''. So how is it? Because thats what transgender is?
no scarlett was born a man, physically, but felt like a woman inside
Ok but I don't think she sounds or looks like a man, does she still have male genital, tho? That's what im wondering
That is none of your damn business.
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| Fredz Canada. April 17 2012 17:51. Posts 36 | Profile # |
"Major sex differences in intellectual function seem to lie in patterns of ability rather than in overall level of intelligence (IQ). We are all aware that people have different intellectual strengths. Some are especially good with words, others at using objects-for instance, at constructing or fixing things. In the same fashion, two individuals may have the same overall intelligence but have varying patterns of ability. Men, on average, perform better than women on certain spatial tasks. In particular, men have an advantage in tests that require the subject to imagine rotating an object or manipulating it in some other way. They outperform women in mathematical reasoning tests and in navigating their way through a route. Further, men are more accurate in tests of target-directed motor skills-that is, in guiding or intercepting projectiles."
http://www.dhushara.com/book/socio/kimura/kimura.htm
Seriously guys i cant believe that some of you didnt know that mens are biologicaly better in cognitive things like mathematical reasoing, spatial tasks, target directed motor skills, etc. And yes womens are better than mens in many things like perceptual speed, precision manual tasks, and many other things.
but as you might already understand, most things in wich mens are better depends at least slightly on speed, fast thinking etc wich basically gives them an advantage over womens in nearly every cognitive sports like chess with a clock or real time strategy games.Last edit: 2012-04-17 17:56:15 |
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| naux Canada. April 17 2012 17:52. Posts 719 | Profile # |
On April 17 2012 17:24 EffectS wrote:
No offense to Eclypsia here but I thought she got offers from Korean teams? If it were me I would pick a Korean team over an international team no matter what the paycheck difference might be.
yes because playing for a korean team gives you salary and helps you travel to foreign events right? yeah you would pick a korean team over an international team but theres people in this world that has to pay for things, i know korean teams would be the better option to get better but you have to think about your future more shes doing fine without korean team |
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| vijeze Netherlands. April 17 2012 17:52. Posts 623 | Profile # |
| Rather sad, hoped to see her on a higher profile team.. Ah well, good luck Scarlett! |
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| Zaqwe April 17 2012 17:52. Posts 304 | Profile # |
On April 17 2012 17:32 corpuscle wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 17:28 Thylacine wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:25 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:23 Thylacine wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:07 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:02 Thylacine wrote:
Can someone answer me? My post is pretty far down at page 21.
of course it is true and what do you mean by "what type" ...
As I understand a transgender is either a ''biological man with a vagina'' or a ''biological woman with a penis''. So how is it? Because thats what transgender is?
no scarlett was born a man, physically, but felt like a woman inside
Ok but I don't think she sounds or looks like a man, does she still have male genital, tho? That's what im wondering
Irrelevant. She's a girl. edit: like seriously do people genuinely think that if she has a cock and balls it somehow affects her starcraft play? this is so stupid.
Being a male does appear to give some sort of benefit to Starcraft ability. Men completely dominate the sport.
It would be quite a strange coincidence that the first female with a decent tournament showing was born a male were that not the case. |
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 Pholon Netherlands. April 17 2012 17:53. Posts 5750 | Profile Blog # |
| Stop posting off topic. This thread is about Scarlett joining her new team. If you feel the need to discuss other matters do so in a different thread. |
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| Zaqwe April 17 2012 17:55. Posts 304 | Profile # |
On April 17 2012 17:51 Fredz wrote:"Major sex differences in intellectual function seem to lie in patterns of ability rather than in overall level of intelligence (IQ). We are all aware that people have different intellectual strengths. Some are especially good with words, others at using objects-for instance, at constructing or fixing things. In the same fashion, two individuals may have the same overall intelligence but have varying patterns of ability. Men, on average, perform better than women on certain spatial tasks. In particular, men have an advantage in tests that require the subject to imagine rotating an object or manipulating it in some other way. They outperform women in mathematical reasoning tests and in navigating their way through a route. Further, men are more accurate in tests of target-directed motor skills-that is, in guiding or intercepting projectiles." http://www.dhushara.com/book/socio/kimura/kimura.htmSeriously guys i cant believe that some of you didnt know that mens are biologicaly better in cognitive things like mathematical reasoing, spatial tasks, target directed motor skills, etc. And yes womens are better than mens in many things like perceptual speed, precision manual tasks, and many other things.
There's actually a science documentary from Norway "brainwash" with an episode on gender differences. Apparently differences between the genders are observable hours after birth. Males are more mechanically inclined, which seems to apply well to Starcraft.
I made a thread about it in the General forum.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=327138
EDIT: Sorry, just saw the above post after I posted.Last edit: 2012-04-17 17:55:49 |
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| AdrianHealey Belgium. April 17 2012 17:55. Posts 480 | Profile # |
The point is not that men and women aren't different - they are. The point is; what do some people hope to gain by focussing on her biological birth sex rather than her gender? A person *is* his/her gender, not his/her sex. In this case; she is a she.
Yes, there might be some biological advantage because she was born physically a man. So what? What do you hope to get out of it by keep focussing on it? What's up with that? It just seems like this sick focus on things that are different, hidden under a veil of 'we need to be correct!' Well; it doesn't matter, even if you are. Stop focussing on it. Scarlett has made it clear that this belongs to her personal life; please respect that.
FFS.
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| CDR Poland. April 17 2012 17:56. Posts 84 | Profile # |
TL.net at its finest :D
This thread is like WTF, seriously guys. Mods banning everything that is not a positive feedback. Someone saying she (or he, I don't really give a fuck, like it makes any difference) is top 4 foreigner. Do you really believe she is top tier player? And KR teams wanted to pick her? Get real FFS. |
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 L3g3nd_ New Zealand. April 17 2012 17:58. Posts 9595 | Profile # |
| Awesome, good luck to him/her : ) |
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| Plaaank United Kingdom. April 17 2012 17:59. Posts 16 | Profile # |
I don't know about anyone else, but my support or interest in Scarlett's sc2 career, or anybody's sc2 career for that matter, is based on how the play the game, not their gender or sexual identity.
Congrats and good luck in the future! |
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| FXOdesRow Canada. April 17 2012 18:00. Posts 2339 | Profile Blog # |
| This is awesome, welcome :D |
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| Suikakuju Germany. April 17 2012 18:02. Posts 160 | Profile # |
| Awesome good luck Scarlett, gg gl |
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| Gamegene United States. April 17 2012 18:03. Posts 6641 | Profile Blog # |
On April 17 2012 17:58 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Awesome, good luck to him/her : )
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| NightySC Norway. April 17 2012 18:11. Posts 136 | Profile Blog # |
Congratulations to Scarlett. It is nice to see that a player that are able to produce good results gets picked up fast, And in my opinion it was smart to go for a team that isn't considered as one of the top teams. As she has already stated she had other options, which probably was better, but the atmosphere in Eclypsia was what suited her the best.
Now, I don't know what the other teams where, but I think a lot of us would have gone for the biggest team that approach us purely to be recognized as EG.Nighty, or Quantic.Nighty, but I really respect Scarlett for going the path she felt was right, and hopefully the environment in Eclypsia will allow her to grow as a player and train in Korea as that was one of the things she wanted to do. |
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