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| darthfoley United States. June 26 2012 08:53. Posts 2232 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 06:02 Josealtron wrote:
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Any article that focuses on Romney and ignores Obama's transgressions isn't really worth commenting on.
But articles that focus on Obama and don't talk about Romney are A-OK.
lol i knew he wouldn't respond to this. xdaunt is so delusional, i doubt he's anything starcraft affiliated... |
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| xDaunt United States. June 26 2012 09:11. Posts 4393 | Profile # |
On June 26 2012 08:53 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 06:02 Josealtron wrote:
Any article that focuses on Romney and ignores Obama's transgressions isn't really worth commenting on.
But articles that focus on Obama and don't talk about Romney are A-OK.
lol i knew he wouldn't respond to this. xdaunt is so delusional, i doubt he's anything starcraft affiliated...
Actually, I posted a lot in the SC2 forums when I first joined TL.
I am really going to enjoy reading these boards after the election when Romney wins.
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| BluePanther United States. June 26 2012 09:12. Posts 2669 | Profile # |
On June 26 2012 08:26 mlspmatt wrote:
If Republicans had a good candidate, I think they'd win a close race. But nobody like Romney, not even his own party. And Likability is very important.
The problem is that the hard right drives Republican discussion. A moderate Republican almost always wins a general election. However because of the hard right, nobody who is a moderate republican can win a primary. |
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| farvacola United States. June 26 2012 09:14. Posts 5473 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 09:11 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 08:53 darthfoley wrote:
On June 26 2012 06:02 Josealtron wrote:
Any article that focuses on Romney and ignores Obama's transgressions isn't really worth commenting on.
But articles that focus on Obama and don't talk about Romney are A-OK.
lol i knew he wouldn't respond to this. xdaunt is so delusional, i doubt he's anything starcraft affiliated...
Actually, I posted a lot in the SC2 forums when I first joined TL. I am really going to enjoy reading these boards after the election when Romney wins.
Can we put up a list of TL users and predictions for the election? Let's make this interesting  |
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| BluePanther United States. June 26 2012 09:15. Posts 2669 | Profile # |
On June 26 2012 09:11 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 08:53 darthfoley wrote:
On June 26 2012 06:02 Josealtron wrote:
Any article that focuses on Romney and ignores Obama's transgressions isn't really worth commenting on.
But articles that focus on Obama and don't talk about Romney are A-OK.
lol i knew he wouldn't respond to this. xdaunt is so delusional, i doubt he's anything starcraft affiliated...
Actually, I posted a lot in the SC2 forums when I first joined TL. I am really going to enjoy reading these boards after the election when Romney wins.
Romney won't win. I'd bet on it.
Btw, political talk of the day here in Wisconsin -- Romney's recent visit to Kenosha was actually a trip to vet Pual Ryan as VP candidate. |
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| Omnipresent United States. June 26 2012 09:17. Posts 871 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 09:15 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 09:11 xDaunt wrote:
On June 26 2012 08:53 darthfoley wrote:
On June 26 2012 06:02 Josealtron wrote:
Any article that focuses on Romney and ignores Obama's transgressions isn't really worth commenting on.
But articles that focus on Obama and don't talk about Romney are A-OK.
lol i knew he wouldn't respond to this. xdaunt is so delusional, i doubt he's anything starcraft affiliated...
Actually, I posted a lot in the SC2 forums when I first joined TL. I am really going to enjoy reading these boards after the election when Romney wins.
Romney won't win. I'd bet on it. Btw, political talk of the day here in Wisconsin -- Romney's recent visit to Kenosha was actually a trip to vet Pual Ryan as VP candidate.
I'm not ready to bet on the race yet, but I'd throw down some money against him if he made that VP pick. |
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| xDaunt United States. June 26 2012 09:38. Posts 4393 | Profile # |
| I haven't seen anything yet that suggests to me that this year's election isn't going to be a repeat of 2010. And while Obama has expanded his base of support among some minority groups (notably Hispanics), he has hemorrhaged so much support among whites and the middle class that I think he is done for. Most telling of all, Obama has real problems with his base. It is not energized. This is not 2008. We'll see if he can get a good turnout in November, but right now, it is not looking so good. |
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| Defacer Canada. June 26 2012 09:55. Posts 4809 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 09:38 xDaunt wrote:
I haven't seen anything yet that suggests to me that this year's election isn't going to be a repeat of 2010. And while Obama has expanded his base of support among some minority groups (notably Hispanics), he has hemorrhaged so much support among whites and the middle class that I think he is done for. Most telling of all, Obama has real problems with his base. It is not energized. This is not 2008. We'll see if he can get a good turnout in November, but right now, it is not looking so good.
I like Obama, but everything you said is true. He's lost a lot of white voters.
Romney could have used that Hispanic vote ... they are the only demographic in which the amount of Christians, Evangelicals and even Mormons are growing.
Obama's only hope is keep pressing Romney on the specifics of his policies. Right now Romney's entire campaign has revolved around advertising Obama's failures and weaknesses, or simply lying about what Obama has or hasn't done.
Romney has yet to explain exactly what he would do differently from Obama, other than lower taxes for the rich. Yes, he's talked about cutting spending and raising the defense budget, but realistically, these things aren't going to happen without some strenuous opposition, and would edge up being marginal cuts at best (his math simply doesn't work).
How do you guys think Romney will handle the debates? I wonder Romney will remain evasive, and if it will work for or against him.
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| Deathmanbob United States. June 26 2012 10:23. Posts 1952 | Profile # |
On June 26 2012 09:55 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 09:38 xDaunt wrote:
I haven't seen anything yet that suggests to me that this year's election isn't going to be a repeat of 2010. And while Obama has expanded his base of support among some minority groups (notably Hispanics), he has hemorrhaged so much support among whites and the middle class that I think he is done for. Most telling of all, Obama has real problems with his base. It is not energized. This is not 2008. We'll see if he can get a good turnout in November, but right now, it is not looking so good.
I like Obama, but everything you said is true. He's lost a lot of white voters. Romney could have used that Hispanic vote ... they are the only demographic in which the amount of Christians, Evangelicals and even Mormons are growing. Obama's only hope is keep pressing Romney on the specifics of his policies. Right now Romney's entire campaign has revolved around advertising Obama's failures and weaknesses, or simply lying about what Obama has or hasn't done. Romney has yet to explain exactly what he would do differently from Obama, other than lower taxes for the rich. Yes, he's talked about cutting spending and raising the defense budget, but realistically, these things aren't going to happen without some strenuous opposition, and would edge up being marginal cuts at best (his math simply doesn't work). How do you guys think Romney will handle the debates? I wonder Romney will remain evasive, and if it will work for or against him.
if i was on romneys team i would tell him never to explain a thing. People do not care about specifics, they dont do a damn thing for you. All that matters if him slinging mud, the more he outlines the 'obama has failed' line the better off he is.
If he ever got caught giving away specifics he can be hammered hard for being to much like bush and that still means something to a lot of americans
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| Jumbled June 26 2012 10:26. Posts 1463 | Profile # |
On June 26 2012 10:23 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 09:55 Defacer wrote:
On June 26 2012 09:38 xDaunt wrote:
I haven't seen anything yet that suggests to me that this year's election isn't going to be a repeat of 2010. And while Obama has expanded his base of support among some minority groups (notably Hispanics), he has hemorrhaged so much support among whites and the middle class that I think he is done for. Most telling of all, Obama has real problems with his base. It is not energized. This is not 2008. We'll see if he can get a good turnout in November, but right now, it is not looking so good.
I like Obama, but everything you said is true. He's lost a lot of white voters. Romney could have used that Hispanic vote ... they are the only demographic in which the amount of Christians, Evangelicals and even Mormons are growing. Obama's only hope is keep pressing Romney on the specifics of his policies. Right now Romney's entire campaign has revolved around advertising Obama's failures and weaknesses, or simply lying about what Obama has or hasn't done. Romney has yet to explain exactly what he would do differently from Obama, other than lower taxes for the rich. Yes, he's talked about cutting spending and raising the defense budget, but realistically, these things aren't going to happen without some strenuous opposition, and would edge up being marginal cuts at best (his math simply doesn't work). How do you guys think Romney will handle the debates? I wonder Romney will remain evasive, and if it will work for or against him.
if i was on romneys team i would tell him never to explain a thing. People do not care about specifics, they dont do a damn thing for you. All that matters if him slinging mud, the more he outlines the 'obama has failed' line the better off he is. If he ever got caught giving away specifics he can be hammered hard for being to much like bush and that still means something to a lot of americans
While that's usually true, and does seem to be his strategy, debates are often the one situation where this doesn't quite fly. Viewers expect candidates to be able to take a couple of questions head-on in these things, and if a politician is too evasive it does tend to get noticed and counts against him.
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| kwizach June 26 2012 10:34. Posts 1209 | Profile # |
On June 26 2012 10:26 Jumbled wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 10:23 Deathmanbob wrote:
On June 26 2012 09:55 Defacer wrote:
On June 26 2012 09:38 xDaunt wrote:
I haven't seen anything yet that suggests to me that this year's election isn't going to be a repeat of 2010. And while Obama has expanded his base of support among some minority groups (notably Hispanics), he has hemorrhaged so much support among whites and the middle class that I think he is done for. Most telling of all, Obama has real problems with his base. It is not energized. This is not 2008. We'll see if he can get a good turnout in November, but right now, it is not looking so good.
I like Obama, but everything you said is true. He's lost a lot of white voters. Romney could have used that Hispanic vote ... they are the only demographic in which the amount of Christians, Evangelicals and even Mormons are growing. Obama's only hope is keep pressing Romney on the specifics of his policies. Right now Romney's entire campaign has revolved around advertising Obama's failures and weaknesses, or simply lying about what Obama has or hasn't done. Romney has yet to explain exactly what he would do differently from Obama, other than lower taxes for the rich. Yes, he's talked about cutting spending and raising the defense budget, but realistically, these things aren't going to happen without some strenuous opposition, and would edge up being marginal cuts at best (his math simply doesn't work). How do you guys think Romney will handle the debates? I wonder Romney will remain evasive, and if it will work for or against him.
if i was on romneys team i would tell him never to explain a thing. People do not care about specifics, they dont do a damn thing for you. All that matters if him slinging mud, the more he outlines the 'obama has failed' line the better off he is. If he ever got caught giving away specifics he can be hammered hard for being to much like bush and that still means something to a lot of americans
While that's usually true, and does seem to be his strategy, debates are often the one situation where this doesn't quite fly. Viewers expect candidates to be able to take a couple of questions head-on in these things, and if a politician is too evasive it does tend to get noticed and counts against him.
Sarah Palin's answer regarding her and McCain's pullout strategy in Iraq in her debate vs Biden comes to mind :-)Last edit: 2012-06-26 10:35:24 |
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| xDaunt United States. June 26 2012 10:41. Posts 4393 | Profile # |
On June 26 2012 09:55 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 09:38 xDaunt wrote:
I haven't seen anything yet that suggests to me that this year's election isn't going to be a repeat of 2010. And while Obama has expanded his base of support among some minority groups (notably Hispanics), he has hemorrhaged so much support among whites and the middle class that I think he is done for. Most telling of all, Obama has real problems with his base. It is not energized. This is not 2008. We'll see if he can get a good turnout in November, but right now, it is not looking so good.
I like Obama, but everything you said is true. He's lost a lot of white voters. Romney could have used that Hispanic vote ... they are the only demographic in which the amount of Christians, Evangelicals and even Mormons are growing. Obama's only hope is keep pressing Romney on the specifics of his policies. Right now Romney's entire campaign has revolved around advertising Obama's failures and weaknesses, or simply lying about what Obama has or hasn't done. Romney has yet to explain exactly what he would do differently from Obama, other than lower taxes for the rich. Yes, he's talked about cutting spending and raising the defense budget, but realistically, these things aren't going to happen without some strenuous opposition, and would edge up being marginal cuts at best (his math simply doesn't work). How do you guys think Romney will handle the debates? I wonder Romney will remain evasive, and if it will work for or against him.
If the primary debates are any indication, then Romney should do just fine. He was consistently excellent and looked the part on stage.
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| Defacer Canada. June 26 2012 10:58. Posts 4809 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 10:41 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 09:55 Defacer wrote:
On June 26 2012 09:38 xDaunt wrote:
I haven't seen anything yet that suggests to me that this year's election isn't going to be a repeat of 2010. And while Obama has expanded his base of support among some minority groups (notably Hispanics), he has hemorrhaged so much support among whites and the middle class that I think he is done for. Most telling of all, Obama has real problems with his base. It is not energized. This is not 2008. We'll see if he can get a good turnout in November, but right now, it is not looking so good.
I like Obama, but everything you said is true. He's lost a lot of white voters. Romney could have used that Hispanic vote ... they are the only demographic in which the amount of Christians, Evangelicals and even Mormons are growing. Obama's only hope is keep pressing Romney on the specifics of his policies. Right now Romney's entire campaign has revolved around advertising Obama's failures and weaknesses, or simply lying about what Obama has or hasn't done. Romney has yet to explain exactly what he would do differently from Obama, other than lower taxes for the rich. Yes, he's talked about cutting spending and raising the defense budget, but realistically, these things aren't going to happen without some strenuous opposition, and would edge up being marginal cuts at best (his math simply doesn't work). How do you guys think Romney will handle the debates? I wonder Romney will remain evasive, and if it will work for or against him.
If the primary debates are any indication, then Romney should do just fine. He was consistently excellent and looked the part on stage.
Hmmm, true. Still, you have to look at his competition.
Newt tried to pin him down, but Newt's ideas were so dumb it wasn't too hard for Romney to fire back.
Perry tried, but he was just too marble-mouthed and bad at debating.
Ron Paul is Ron Paul, he's not just trying to debate his opponent, he's having a debating with the universe.
Herman Cain? LOL.
Santorum probably faired the best, he really hammered him.
I feel bad for Santorum. I'm glad he's not going to be president and despise almost all his personal beliefs, but at least he had conviction.
Obama is a stronger debater than all these guys, but Romney has four years of material to work with. It will be interesting.
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| Adila United States. June 26 2012 11:03. Posts 750 | Profile # |
On June 26 2012 10:58 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 10:41 xDaunt wrote:
On June 26 2012 09:55 Defacer wrote:
On June 26 2012 09:38 xDaunt wrote:
I haven't seen anything yet that suggests to me that this year's election isn't going to be a repeat of 2010. And while Obama has expanded his base of support among some minority groups (notably Hispanics), he has hemorrhaged so much support among whites and the middle class that I think he is done for. Most telling of all, Obama has real problems with his base. It is not energized. This is not 2008. We'll see if he can get a good turnout in November, but right now, it is not looking so good.
I like Obama, but everything you said is true. He's lost a lot of white voters. Romney could have used that Hispanic vote ... they are the only demographic in which the amount of Christians, Evangelicals and even Mormons are growing. Obama's only hope is keep pressing Romney on the specifics of his policies. Right now Romney's entire campaign has revolved around advertising Obama's failures and weaknesses, or simply lying about what Obama has or hasn't done. Romney has yet to explain exactly what he would do differently from Obama, other than lower taxes for the rich. Yes, he's talked about cutting spending and raising the defense budget, but realistically, these things aren't going to happen without some strenuous opposition, and would edge up being marginal cuts at best (his math simply doesn't work). How do you guys think Romney will handle the debates? I wonder Romney will remain evasive, and if it will work for or against him.
If the primary debates are any indication, then Romney should do just fine. He was consistently excellent and looked the part on stage.
Hmmm, true. Still, you have to look at his competition. Newt tried to pin him down, but Newt's ideas were so dumb it wasn't too hard for Romney to fire back. Perry tried, but he was just too marble-mouthed and bad at debating. Ron Paul is Ron Paul, he's not just trying to debate his opponent, he's having a debating with the universe. Herman Cain? LOL. Santorum probably faired the best, he really hammered him. I feel bad for Santorum. I'm glad he's not going to be president and despise almost all his personal beliefs, but at least he had conviction. Obama is a stronger debater than all these guys, but Romney has four years of material to work with. It will be interesting.
Romney eviscerated Newt with attack ads after his defeat in SC. That really put Newt off his game. Newt easily loses his cool and that just screws his debating skills.
Obama is much more cool-headed than Newt and will have enough money to prevent Romney from carpet bombing him with negatives ads. |
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| Epocalypse Canada. June 26 2012 11:06. Posts 295 | Profile # |
New article in Forbes explaining how difficult it is to get campaign financing and how McCain intends to make it more difficult, and thus more difficult for new candidates, not part of the the big two, to make a run for government.
Also, how he is seeking to limit private campaign financing and instead implement government chosen candidate financing only paid for by tax dollars.
http://onforb.es/KYC7or
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| xDaunt United States. June 26 2012 11:10. Posts 4393 | Profile # |
On June 26 2012 10:58 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 10:41 xDaunt wrote:
On June 26 2012 09:55 Defacer wrote:
On June 26 2012 09:38 xDaunt wrote:
I haven't seen anything yet that suggests to me that this year's election isn't going to be a repeat of 2010. And while Obama has expanded his base of support among some minority groups (notably Hispanics), he has hemorrhaged so much support among whites and the middle class that I think he is done for. Most telling of all, Obama has real problems with his base. It is not energized. This is not 2008. We'll see if he can get a good turnout in November, but right now, it is not looking so good.
I like Obama, but everything you said is true. He's lost a lot of white voters. Romney could have used that Hispanic vote ... they are the only demographic in which the amount of Christians, Evangelicals and even Mormons are growing. Obama's only hope is keep pressing Romney on the specifics of his policies. Right now Romney's entire campaign has revolved around advertising Obama's failures and weaknesses, or simply lying about what Obama has or hasn't done. Romney has yet to explain exactly what he would do differently from Obama, other than lower taxes for the rich. Yes, he's talked about cutting spending and raising the defense budget, but realistically, these things aren't going to happen without some strenuous opposition, and would edge up being marginal cuts at best (his math simply doesn't work). How do you guys think Romney will handle the debates? I wonder Romney will remain evasive, and if it will work for or against him.
If the primary debates are any indication, then Romney should do just fine. He was consistently excellent and looked the part on stage.
Hmmm, true. Still, you have to look at his competition. Newt tried to pin him down, but Newt's ideas were so dumb it wasn't too hard for Romney to fire back. Perry tried, but he was just too marble-mouthed and bad at debating. Ron Paul is Ron Paul, he's not just trying to debate his opponent, he's having a debating with the universe. Herman Cain? LOL. Santorum probably faired the best, he really hammered him. I feel bad for Santorum. I'm glad he's not going to be president and despise almost all his personal beliefs, but at least he had conviction. Obama is a stronger debater than all these guys, but Romney has four years of material to work with. It will be interesting.
I think Obama is terribly overrated as a debater. He is an exceptional orator when he is on script (teleprompter). When he is on his own, he is a very different and far lesser being. Romney is a far stronger opponent than McCain was. Romney is also far more aggressive and will not pull the punches that McCain did. I think people are going to be surprised at how the debates go.
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| SkyCrawler United States. June 26 2012 12:06. Posts 69 | Profile # |
On June 26 2012 11:06 Epocalypse wrote:New article in Forbes explaining how difficult it is to get campaign financing and how McCain intends to make it more difficult, and thus more difficult for new candidates, not part of the the big two, to make a run for government. Also, how he is seeking to limit private campaign financing and instead implement government chosen candidate financing only paid for by tax dollars. http://onforb.es/KYC7or
That article is dated 2008 March 21st.
If you want to listen to a good cover of campaign finance and lobbying, This American Life had a good episode on this: Take the Money and Run for Office |
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| koreasilver Canada. June 26 2012 12:20. Posts 7488 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 09:11 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 08:53 darthfoley wrote:
On June 26 2012 06:02 Josealtron wrote:
Any article that focuses on Romney and ignores Obama's transgressions isn't really worth commenting on.
But articles that focus on Obama and don't talk about Romney are A-OK.
lol i knew he wouldn't respond to this. xdaunt is so delusional, i doubt he's anything starcraft affiliated...
Actually, I posted a lot in the SC2 forums when I first joined TL. I am really going to enjoy reading these boards after the election when Romney wins.
You're the guy that jumped on the Herman Cain wagon and harped on about him until it became all too clear that he was the next big flop.
And we're supposed to give your word any heed why? |
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| Defacer Canada. June 26 2012 12:35. Posts 4809 | Profile Blog # |
On June 26 2012 11:10 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 10:58 Defacer wrote:
On June 26 2012 10:41 xDaunt wrote:
On June 26 2012 09:55 Defacer wrote:
On June 26 2012 09:38 xDaunt wrote:
I haven't seen anything yet that suggests to me that this year's election isn't going to be a repeat of 2010. And while Obama has expanded his base of support among some minority groups (notably Hispanics), he has hemorrhaged so much support among whites and the middle class that I think he is done for. Most telling of all, Obama has real problems with his base. It is not energized. This is not 2008. We'll see if he can get a good turnout in November, but right now, it is not looking so good.
I like Obama, but everything you said is true. He's lost a lot of white voters. Romney could have used that Hispanic vote ... they are the only demographic in which the amount of Christians, Evangelicals and even Mormons are growing. Obama's only hope is keep pressing Romney on the specifics of his policies. Right now Romney's entire campaign has revolved around advertising Obama's failures and weaknesses, or simply lying about what Obama has or hasn't done. Romney has yet to explain exactly what he would do differently from Obama, other than lower taxes for the rich. Yes, he's talked about cutting spending and raising the defense budget, but realistically, these things aren't going to happen without some strenuous opposition, and would edge up being marginal cuts at best (his math simply doesn't work). How do you guys think Romney will handle the debates? I wonder Romney will remain evasive, and if it will work for or against him.
If the primary debates are any indication, then Romney should do just fine. He was consistently excellent and looked the part on stage.
Hmmm, true. Still, you have to look at his competition. Newt tried to pin him down, but Newt's ideas were so dumb it wasn't too hard for Romney to fire back. Perry tried, but he was just too marble-mouthed and bad at debating. Ron Paul is Ron Paul, he's not just trying to debate his opponent, he's having a debating with the universe. Herman Cain? LOL. Santorum probably faired the best, he really hammered him. I feel bad for Santorum. I'm glad he's not going to be president and despise almost all his personal beliefs, but at least he had conviction. Obama is a stronger debater than all these guys, but Romney has four years of material to work with. It will be interesting.
I think Obama is terribly overrated as a debater. He is an exceptional orator when he is on script (teleprompter). When he is on his own, he is a very different and far lesser being. Romney is a far stronger opponent than McCain was. Romney is also far more aggressive and will not pull the punches that McCain did. I think people are going to be surprised at how the debates go.
Hmmm, I can see what you're saying here. Romney will go for the jugular. Obama is reasonably cool under pressure, but he's a little too measured and thoughtful in a debate. He processes things a little too slowly. I don't think Obama will choke, but I'm not sure if he knows how to NOT pull a punch.
Romney is exceptionally good at bullshitting and lying without skipping a beat. He has almost a Scientologist level of self-confidence.
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| darthfoley United States. June 26 2012 13:29. Posts 2232 | Profile Blog # |
really hope romney loses, he's the definition of a douchebag, and wouldn't be liked if he wasn't a billionaire.
i was never a huge fan of Obama, my family (and therefore i) was pulling for Clinton in 08, but he's better than Romney. |
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