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 zatic Germany. April 24 2012 17:23. Posts 11723 | Profile Blog # |
This series is really well made. It should be said though, while some of the concepts are applicable to other races, this is still a Terran guide.
For Terrans though this is great. I have recommended this series to several T friends struggling in the lower leagues, and all of them have improved, and more importantly, have found motiviation to keep playing. I attribute this to the clear steps and benchmarks the series gives you, so there is always that little next step a player can work towards. Good job! |
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| Misterkui France. April 24 2012 18:06. Posts 2 | Profile # |
Very well done. I play sc2 since the beginning and i must say this is the best tutorial i saw since then. I already played this kind of style (watching dragon do it), but with your explanation it's like magic to me.
I really hope to see more of your videos soon, and i also must say even for a non english speaker you make your explanation very clear. |
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| Dvriel April 24 2012 21:22. Posts 439 | Profile # |
Hi,Filter,Really GREAT Guide!!! I am Platinum EU Terran,and after playing your BO,have improved a lot.Never could understand from replays when to take 3rd gas,build factory,medivacs,upgrades and the most difficult taking 3rd.Thank u so much and hope u will keep doing it.I would aski u for a more details,because i faced some issues in ladder.Losing to cheese or allinish games such as 6gates or 3 tanks 25 marines push with constant rally or banshee opening.
I hope u know people from Bronze to Master are very cheesy and allinish players and 60% of games u face no macro games.So if u cuold put some examples of defending some allins or cheese,it would be great.As well i think that something must change to be able to reach diamond and master,or its only this benchmarks?I dont think so,but for every MU,there is maybe some movements/decisions making we must know.FE:Bio vs Zerg may good for Platinum,but beyond this,what next?I tried to add tanks and it works,but i am not sure when to beginn making them and when add second factory.So,if u could answer somethingo of all this stuff,I would be very gratefull.
P.D.I am suscribed to this thread,but dont really know what this mean.Can somebody tell me? |
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| IBringUFire Germany. April 24 2012 21:28. Posts 93 | Profile Blog # |
On April 24 2012 21:22 Dvriel wrote:
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P.D.I am suscribed to this thread,but dont really know what this mean.Can somebody tell me?
It means that if you click on "Subscribed Threads" on the top left of the TL-Banner, you can directly find this post. Also you see if there are new posts since the last time you posted.
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| woolierwand United Kingdom. April 24 2012 21:32. Posts 16 | Profile Blog # |
| Am I being really oblivious? I can't see the links to the videos in the original post? |
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| IBringUFire Germany. April 24 2012 21:39. Posts 93 | Profile Blog # |
On April 24 2012 21:32 woolierwand wrote:
Am I being really oblivious? I can't see the links to the videos in the original post?
They're embedded in the spoilers, right below the bold headlines. If you open the spoilers and the videos don't pop up, you might consider checking your ad-block settings.
Filter just embedded YouTube videos, so it should work if your browser is set up correctly. |
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| WaterJam United States. April 25 2012 01:51. Posts 2 | Profile # |
I have been out for a year and just recently returned. Previously I was a zerg player but wanted to try Terran this time around. Luckily I found these guides on the battle.net forum and it has been a huge help. I have played about 40-50 practice games just trying to memorize the build and practice over and over again. I went to ladder and after some early losses I checked the replays and found myself not hitting the marks. Back to the practice games I went. I went back to the ladder and have found success. For some reason I have only played terran twice and zerg once, almost all of my games are against protoss. But I have been beating them fairly badly, including fast colossus, immortal rush, cannon rush, early blink stalkers, etc. My army is just too big and constantly be produced.
Thank you filter! Also thank you for answering questions on your twitter! |
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| OneBaseKing Afghanistan. April 25 2012 02:24. Posts 408 | Profile Blog # |
| Please update sections for diamond and masters soon! this helped me so much thank you! |
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| woolierwand United Kingdom. April 25 2012 03:40. Posts 16 | Profile Blog # |
On April 24 2012 21:39 IBringUFire wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 21:32 woolierwand wrote:
Am I being really oblivious? I can't see the links to the videos in the original post?
They're embedded in the spoilers, right below the bold headlines. If you open the spoilers and the videos don't pop up, you might consider checking your ad-block settings. Filter just embedded YouTube videos, so it should work if your browser is set up correctly.
Thank you, stupid Linux couldn't see it. Home now and watching! |
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| zoidwolf South Africa. April 25 2012 05:20. Posts 22 | Profile # |
Thanks so much Filter! These videos have helped me tremendously by shifting my focus completely back to macro. I also love the benchmarks idea. It gives a solid place to work towards, which I find is one of the most enjoyable aspects of the game.(seeing yourself getting better and progressing)
This way, you don't need to get promoted on climb the ranks to know that you're getting better.
Again, thanks! I hope to see lots more content :D :D |
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| Plebeian April 25 2012 05:29. Posts 4 | Profile # |
Awesome in so many ways. And I'm having so much fun with this style. I feel like this!
Thank you! |
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| ArkSC April 25 2012 05:52. Posts 110 | Profile # |
When are the dia/master video's comming!?!
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| Filter Canada. April 25 2012 06:53. Posts 590 | Profile Blog # |
On April 25 2012 05:52 Overlord17 wrote:
When are the dia/master video's comming!?!
The Diamond stuff is underway, it deals with branching your play out to different builds really easily. Hopefully by the time you reach that stage too you'll be able to just watch pro replays, or games and rip their builds fairly easily with a better understand of gas timings etc. I've finished two of the videos for it, ones uploading then I'll do some demonstration games after.
The masters set is already really well covered by a lot of people out there, but I'll try to cover some areas I see some players are really weak in at the masters level. (Recovering from crisis, resetting your mindset (ie. both players lose their expansions and the game shifts back to 1 base vs. 1 base economy with both players having overproduction, it's all about getting your economy flowing again.) as well as things like proper engagements and a strategic look at the map pool.
I basically try to make one video per day, but it takes a lot of work (I have to play and refine a lot, plus the editing process takes awhile). I think you can get to masters, even high masters with extremely strong fundamental plays (the series as is, after the diamond episodes should be enough to get people there) but once you're there you need to start doing other things well, and a lot of that comes from experience. |
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| ArkSC April 25 2012 07:22. Posts 110 | Profile # |
[QUOTE]On April 25 2012 06:53 Filter wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 25 2012 05:52 Overlord17 wrote:
When are the dia/master video's comming!?!
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The Diamond stuff is underway, it deals with branching your play out to different builds really easily. Hopefully by the time you reach that stage too you'll be able to just watch pro replays, or games and rip their builds fairly easily with a better understand of gas timings etc. I've finished two of the videos for it, ones uploading then I'll do some demonstration games after.
The masters set is already really well covered by a lot of people out there, but I'll try to cover some areas I see some players are really weak in at the masters level. (Recovering from crisis, resetting your mindset (ie. both players lose their expansions and the game shifts back to 1 base vs. 1 base economy with both players having overproduction, it's all about getting your economy flowing again.) as well as things like proper engagements and a strategic look at the map pool.
I basically try to make one video per day, but it takes a lot of work (I have to play and refine a lot, plus the editing process takes awhile). I think you can get to masters, even high masters with extremely strong fundamental plays (the series as is, after the diamond episodes should be enough to get people there) but once you're there you need to start doing other things well, and a lot of that comes from experience.[/Q
Actually, im already mid-high diamond =D. Just wondering because the lower league video's don't apply to me as much. But im a fan of what you are doing!Last edit: 2012-04-25 07:24:38 |
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| sircuddles Canada. April 25 2012 09:27. Posts 91 | Profile # |
As someone who just got back into SC2 from Launch (was in Gold, played maybe 25 games total), this series is a godsend. There are almost too many resources out there for SC2 info, and this series has a great focus (solid macro). I find I have difficulties with early aggression (7 minutes or earlier), but I think that's mostly because of me and not the build (my micro/engaging is truly terrible). I'm very interested to see some of the Silver/Gold replays.
Just wanted to say thank you on behalf of all the players like me who are mid-range, but trying to improve. A solid foundation is always important in anything you do, especially SC2, and following this series builds it.
EDIT: Just played a few more games and it's almost hilarious how the first 10 minutes of my games are perfection, 50-52 SCVs, 108ish food, all is well. After that 10 minute mark it's not so pretty. My biggest problem is that I'm really terrible at engaging properly so I lose a lot more units than I should in almost every engagement. That comes with experience, but stuff like that does make it tempting to run a 3 Rax one base that pushes ~7:30 for more wins. I just keep telling myself winning isn't my job right now, my job is macro.Last edit: 2012-04-25 13:18:49 |
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| HardTrance9 Mexico. April 25 2012 11:22. Posts 7 | Profile # |
Filter SC, cheers from Mexico..
I can only applause your efforts and love for the game.
Thanks so much for putting the time to explain the macro basics. I got the link from another player who I owe quite a lot too, Tang, a zerg/coach/player, which for sure you know (also Canadian).
I was looking for tutorial vid for Terran exactly as you created it!! Step by step and with ez benchmarks to measure yourself so you can self improve withouth feeling if you are doing things right, wrong, slower, etc.
I got some benchmarks but maybe a little advanced for my play level (very little time to play now, compared to when I played SC1 about 14 years ago; student).
Thanks! I will be practicing your excellent concepts, teachings and benchmarks! Suscribed to your channel so I can learn more from you as long as you have the time to make the vids.
Saludos! |
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| Blackknight232 United States. April 25 2012 13:10. Posts 167 | Profile # |
i'll say this for the record:
Getting 200 army at 14 mins is really harder than i thought. But man i need to work on upgrade timings and getting more stuff down. Trying to hit those plat benchmarks as best as i can so yeah but thanks to this guide i'm rank 1 gold so thanks a lot =D |
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| Cassel_Castle United States. April 25 2012 13:16. Posts 818 | Profile Blog # |
http://drop.sc/166361
There are some games like this one where I outmacro my opponent and still lose. I'm only in gold (facing some platinums) but I feel like I'm at the point where dropping to snipe tech is becoming essential TvP. |
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| ShadowDrgn United States. April 25 2012 13:56. Posts 2345 | Profile Blog # |
On April 25 2012 13:16 Cassel_Castle wrote:http://drop.sc/166361There are some games like this one where I outmacro my opponent and still lose. I'm only in gold (facing some platinums) but I feel like I'm at the point where dropping to snipe tech is becoming essential TvP.
You played this very well despite the loss. Two points: first, you should be looking to move out and attack around 180 food to maximize the supply advantage over your opponent. Hitting 200 before him is worthless if you give him two minutes to catch up while you bank 3000 minerals. Second, make a second starport for more vikings against colossi in TvP. Ghosts can be useful, but they're nearly worthless without good micro. |
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| Filter Canada. April 25 2012 14:00. Posts 590 | Profile Blog # |
When a protoss is on two bases Cassel you can't really get aggressive. You need to get your viking count up and mostly leave him alone. If you're on three, taking a forth base, maxed and have good production in the back you can take him on but otherwise you may as well wait.
I play far from perfect in this game, but short of a poke at his front I take my time killing him. No need to rush when it's 3v2 base, he'll have one really good army and nothing to follow it up so just take your time. This guy does basically the exact same thing the guy you just played did, the only difference is I'm a lot more passive until I can deal with his colossus. (and replenish my bio if it gets knocked around a bit). The other guys about the level you're playing, he was middle plat I think.
http://drop.sc/166383
I don't really like to turn the heat up on protoss players I play until my economy can withstand losing a ton of units.
Edit: What Shadow Dragon said is correct too, the lack of a second starport really stung you.Last edit: 2012-04-25 14:01:19 |
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