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| yawnoC United States. April 21 2012 04:51. Posts 2517 | Profile # |
It is interesting to hear the coaches thought on SC2 and the foreign scene/players.
I also don't believe the flash not knowing the units part  |
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 Aunvilgod April 21 2012 04:52. Posts 2031 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 04:50 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 04:47 oBlade wrote:
Localizing unit names always bothered me. If Samsung players don't know what the Dark Shrine is, I guess Kim Ga-eul can phone Bisu.
Or  oGsInCa will end up all-killing Khan, in case you are familiar with his shenanigans in SC2.
If you are stupid enough to not have detection against Inca you deserve to loose. |
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| oFFoy Lithuania. April 21 2012 04:53. Posts 22 | Profile # |
On April 20 2012 23:05 KenNage wrote:
my last osl then, then im out, im not watching sc2
Why would anyone in the world care that you won't watch sc2?
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| Itachii Poland. April 21 2012 04:54. Posts 12440 | Profile Blog # |
| BroodWar's perfection mixed up with SC2 just doesn't seem right.Forcing players and spectators to play, follow new game which they don't even enjoy and find overhyped is simply wrong.Oh well, I am gone when this switch occurs, long live BroodWar! Last edit: 2012-04-21 05:04:29 |
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| eviltomahawk United States. April 21 2012 04:54. Posts 8897 | Profile Blog # |
On April 21 2012 04:52 Aunvilgod wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 04:50 eviltomahawk wrote:
On April 21 2012 04:47 oBlade wrote:
Localizing unit names always bothered me. If Samsung players don't know what the Dark Shrine is, I guess Kim Ga-eul can phone Bisu.
Or oGsInCa will end up all-killing Khan, in case you are familiar with his shenanigans in SC2.
If you are stupid enough to not have detection against Inca you deserve to loose.
And yet, he somehow is still able to manipulate this bizarre metagame into acquiring wins against all odds and common sense.
But that is a story for a different time and place, far removed from the subject of this thread. |
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| BearStorm United States. April 21 2012 04:56. Posts 773 | Profile # |
| This is so depressing. The living legend that was star1 will end soon. |
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| IntoTheheart Canada. April 21 2012 04:58. Posts 2728 | Profile Blog # |
- Ji-hoon 'During his (Flash's) rehabilitation, he got to Masters (in SC2) without even knowing what the new units did'
Wasn't Violet also in top masters for a while during chemo as well? |
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| elagrion Ukraine. April 21 2012 04:59. Posts 298 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 02:40 Elbonbunny wrote:
I've got a serious questions, Why don't kespa use the SC2:BW and that way BW does not die and they get the benfits of the improved graphics and ops controls
Because it is not about graphics and obs controls?
Switch is happening because sponsors see a huge foreigners fanbase. There is no huge fanbase anywhere for sc2bw. |
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 BisuDagger United States. April 21 2012 04:59. Posts 5524 | Profile Blog # |
SKT Coach Park: I hope you understand that it was the best we could do under the current circumstances. I encourage you to have high hopes for the upcoming season. I’m confident that Bisu and Fantasy will be global leaders in SC2, so look out for us!
Good enough for me.  .
The coaches say this is the best way to keep BW alive. I'm going to trust in them as I always have. I look forward to the future as always. The community is more important to me than the game. I hope that everyone on here who I have grown to love and read from will give season 2 a chance with me and we can continue to stay as a family. |
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| MarcH United Kingdom. April 21 2012 05:00. Posts 349 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 04:54 Itachii wrote:
BroodWar's perfection mixed up with SC2 just doesn't seem right.Forcing players and spectators to follow new game which they don't even enjoy and find overhyped is simply wrong.Oh well, I am gone when this switch occurs, long live BroodWar!
No-one is being forced to watch anything you just don't watch it. However as a SC guy who came in with SC2 I dont want BW to die as I have started watching BW through SC2 and I really enjoy it and their is an obvious difference in the maturity o the games.
I would add however that SC2 still has a long way to go and a direct comparison to BW right now is unfair especially with an expansion coming up soonish and another to follow it SC2 wont be in the state BW is right now for quite a few years. |
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| hewley Germany. April 21 2012 05:01. Posts 959 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 04:42 L3gendary wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 04:18 pStar wrote:It's pretty funny to see the broodwar fans pick what they want out of the article and the SC2 fans to pick the things that makes it good for them as well. The one thing that I find annoying is that SC2 fans give BW huge support, any thread on reddit is upvoted, we try to post in hype threads here etc, as well as tuning in to games, (proleague finals by sayle were close to 6000 and I know alot of them were mainly SC2 players, from the chat anyway as well as from the 2 major communitiers). However when it comes to SC2, BW fans won;t even give it a chance. They dismiss it immediately and complain about it. Why can't we all just get along and support each other. 
1 is killing the other. I'm sure sc2 fans would be very supportive if the whole scene switched back to bw lol.
I'm not sure how sc2 is killing bw in Korea as bw has still a large fanbase compared to those who follow sc2. As far as international scene is concerned the bw forum doesn't care about foreign bw/sc2 as it is too "nooby" in their eyes. Last edit: 2012-04-21 05:02:46 |
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| MarcH United Kingdom. April 21 2012 05:04. Posts 349 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 05:01 hewley wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 04:42 L3gendary wrote:
On April 21 2012 04:18 pStar wrote:It's pretty funny to see the broodwar fans pick what they want out of the article and the SC2 fans to pick the things that makes it good for them as well. The one thing that I find annoying is that SC2 fans give BW huge support, any thread on reddit is upvoted, we try to post in hype threads here etc, as well as tuning in to games, (proleague finals by sayle were close to 6000 and I know alot of them were mainly SC2 players, from the chat anyway as well as from the 2 major communitiers). However when it comes to SC2, BW fans won;t even give it a chance. They dismiss it immediately and complain about it. Why can't we all just get along and support each other.
1 is killing the other. I'm sure sc2 fans would be very supportive if the whole scene switched back to bw lol.
I'm not sure how sc2 is killing bw in Korea as bw has still a large fanbase compared to those who follow sc2. And the bw forum doesn't care about foreign bw as it is too "nooby" in their eyes.
As far as i understand it all the sponsorship for BW is drying up as all the sponsors see that SC2 has such a large and growing Fan base outside Korea that they switch to sponsor SC2. If all the money leaves BW then you have no Tournaments and no money to fund teams. |
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| L3gendary Canada. April 21 2012 05:04. Posts 1206 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 05:01 hewley wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 04:42 L3gendary wrote:
On April 21 2012 04:18 pStar wrote:It's pretty funny to see the broodwar fans pick what they want out of the article and the SC2 fans to pick the things that makes it good for them as well. The one thing that I find annoying is that SC2 fans give BW huge support, any thread on reddit is upvoted, we try to post in hype threads here etc, as well as tuning in to games, (proleague finals by sayle were close to 6000 and I know alot of them were mainly SC2 players, from the chat anyway as well as from the 2 major communitiers). However when it comes to SC2, BW fans won;t even give it a chance. They dismiss it immediately and complain about it. Why can't we all just get along and support each other.
1 is killing the other. I'm sure sc2 fans would be very supportive if the whole scene switched back to bw lol.
I'm not sure how sc2 is killing bw in Korea as bw has still a large fanbase compared to those who follow sc2. As far as international scene is concerned the bw forum doesn't care about foreign bw/sc2 as it is too "nooby" in their eyes.
In case you haven't heard, they are switching to sc2 because of its foreign popularity. |
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| supernovamaniac United States. April 21 2012 05:07. Posts 2232 | Profile Blog # |
On April 21 2012 05:04 L3gendary wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 05:01 hewley wrote:
On April 21 2012 04:42 L3gendary wrote:
On April 21 2012 04:18 pStar wrote:It's pretty funny to see the broodwar fans pick what they want out of the article and the SC2 fans to pick the things that makes it good for them as well. The one thing that I find annoying is that SC2 fans give BW huge support, any thread on reddit is upvoted, we try to post in hype threads here etc, as well as tuning in to games, (proleague finals by sayle were close to 6000 and I know alot of them were mainly SC2 players, from the chat anyway as well as from the 2 major communitiers). However when it comes to SC2, BW fans won;t even give it a chance. They dismiss it immediately and complain about it. Why can't we all just get along and support each other.
1 is killing the other. I'm sure sc2 fans would be very supportive if the whole scene switched back to bw lol.
I'm not sure how sc2 is killing bw in Korea as bw has still a large fanbase compared to those who follow sc2. As far as international scene is concerned the bw forum doesn't care about foreign bw/sc2 as it is too "nooby" in their eyes.
In case you haven't heard, they are switching to sc2 because of its foreign popularity.
*facepalm*
Foreign popularity + sponsorship issues. |
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| Sabu113 United States. April 21 2012 05:09. Posts 6252 | Profile Blog # |
On April 21 2012 04:30 eviltomahawk wrote:
Haha, I find it really cool how much the coaches know about Teamliquid. Makes me wonder if they have ever stumbled upon the odder threads in the BW General section *cough*Nada's Body*cough*
Actually where january gets her lineups |
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| raga4ka Bulgaria. April 21 2012 05:12. Posts 5002 | Profile # |
On April 20 2012 23:50 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 23:45 S2Glow wrote:
flash lol .. sc2 pros ? bw pros will come and pawn sc2 current pros sooner or later.
Like Hyun! Sure, he wasn't S-class, but he was still an A-teamer, top 30 on KeSPA rankings the month he switched, and leaps and bounds better at BW than any SC2 players were at time of switch. And it shows! Look at all the success he's had in SC2! Sure, he's a mere 0-3 in the GSL/GSTL, but if you look at TLPD and include all his games in minor tournaments, he's an astounding 1-11. Okay, so it was only one win. But it was against Revival, who's a terrifying 86th in Korean SC2 ELO rank! And even his losses were against....Commitment (113th)....Xy (not ranked)...Shine (112th).....oh, Taeja's good! Hyun lost to Taeja!
The organized power of the Kespa teams will have the current meta-game solved faster then anything you'll see from a lone wolf BW deserters . Eventually they will make their own meta game that the rest of the world will follow . It would be interesting to see how GSTL teams and Kespa teams will coexist and the rivalry between them . Besides anyone that's good in SC2 in Korea came from BW to begin with . Years of experience in the most ruthless e-sports RTS environment will show it's results and the best mechanics and genius minds that still exist in BW will show new level of mind games and innovations. Last edit: 2012-04-21 05:23:20 |
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| hewley Germany. April 21 2012 05:13. Posts 959 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 05:04 L3gendary wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 05:01 hewley wrote:
On April 21 2012 04:42 L3gendary wrote:
On April 21 2012 04:18 pStar wrote:It's pretty funny to see the broodwar fans pick what they want out of the article and the SC2 fans to pick the things that makes it good for them as well. The one thing that I find annoying is that SC2 fans give BW huge support, any thread on reddit is upvoted, we try to post in hype threads here etc, as well as tuning in to games, (proleague finals by sayle were close to 6000 and I know alot of them were mainly SC2 players, from the chat anyway as well as from the 2 major communitiers). However when it comes to SC2, BW fans won;t even give it a chance. They dismiss it immediately and complain about it. Why can't we all just get along and support each other.
1 is killing the other. I'm sure sc2 fans would be very supportive if the whole scene switched back to bw lol.
I'm not sure how sc2 is killing bw in Korea as bw has still a large fanbase compared to those who follow sc2. As far as international scene is concerned the bw forum doesn't care about foreign bw/sc2 as it is too "nooby" in their eyes.
In case you haven't heard, they are switching to sc2 because of its foreign popularity.
That may be true, but it seemed bw was on the decline since the savior incident. They have nowadays really trouble finding sponsors for team8, osl, etc. And it is not because those are sponsoring korean sc2 teams. I feel like this is more of a last chance to revive the korean esports scene by including sc2.
Well, this is all speculation and we never know how starcraft would have developed if the sequel didn't came out. I just find it hard to believe that sc2 killed the professional korean bw scene. |
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| theBusiness United States. April 21 2012 05:18. Posts 13 | Profile # |
| Honestly, hearing that about flash isn't that surprising, think about it. If a quake player like rapha were to switch to a new game, I'm pretty sure he would be in the top 2% of players as well, these people are just ridiculously talented. Last edit: 2012-04-21 05:18:39 |
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| L3gendary Canada. April 21 2012 05:19. Posts 1206 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 05:13 hewley wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 05:04 L3gendary wrote:
On April 21 2012 05:01 hewley wrote:
On April 21 2012 04:42 L3gendary wrote:
On April 21 2012 04:18 pStar wrote:It's pretty funny to see the broodwar fans pick what they want out of the article and the SC2 fans to pick the things that makes it good for them as well. The one thing that I find annoying is that SC2 fans give BW huge support, any thread on reddit is upvoted, we try to post in hype threads here etc, as well as tuning in to games, (proleague finals by sayle were close to 6000 and I know alot of them were mainly SC2 players, from the chat anyway as well as from the 2 major communitiers). However when it comes to SC2, BW fans won;t even give it a chance. They dismiss it immediately and complain about it. Why can't we all just get along and support each other.
1 is killing the other. I'm sure sc2 fans would be very supportive if the whole scene switched back to bw lol.
I'm not sure how sc2 is killing bw in Korea as bw has still a large fanbase compared to those who follow sc2. As far as international scene is concerned the bw forum doesn't care about foreign bw/sc2 as it is too "nooby" in their eyes.
In case you haven't heard, they are switching to sc2 because of its foreign popularity.
That may be true, but it seemed bw was on the decline since the savior incident. They have nowadays really trouble finding sponsors for team8, osl, etc. And it is not because those are sponsoring korean sc2 teams. I feel like this is more of a last chance to revive the korean esports scene by including sc2. Well, this is all speculation and we never know how starcraft would have developed if the sequel didn't came out. I just find it hard to believe that sc2 killed the professional korean bw scene.
Not doubt it was declining but without sc2 they wouldn't end bw altogether and they certainly wouldn't switch just off the popularity of the game in korea.
Without sc2 it would've faded away over time and died a natural death instead of the forced situation we have here.Last edit: 2012-04-21 05:21:50 |
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| Grampz United States. April 21 2012 05:21. Posts 2067 | Profile # |
On April 21 2012 05:19 L3gendary wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 05:13 hewley wrote:
On April 21 2012 05:04 L3gendary wrote:
On April 21 2012 05:01 hewley wrote:
On April 21 2012 04:42 L3gendary wrote:
On April 21 2012 04:18 pStar wrote:It's pretty funny to see the broodwar fans pick what they want out of the article and the SC2 fans to pick the things that makes it good for them as well. The one thing that I find annoying is that SC2 fans give BW huge support, any thread on reddit is upvoted, we try to post in hype threads here etc, as well as tuning in to games, (proleague finals by sayle were close to 6000 and I know alot of them were mainly SC2 players, from the chat anyway as well as from the 2 major communitiers). However when it comes to SC2, BW fans won;t even give it a chance. They dismiss it immediately and complain about it. Why can't we all just get along and support each other.
1 is killing the other. I'm sure sc2 fans would be very supportive if the whole scene switched back to bw lol.
I'm not sure how sc2 is killing bw in Korea as bw has still a large fanbase compared to those who follow sc2. As far as international scene is concerned the bw forum doesn't care about foreign bw/sc2 as it is too "nooby" in their eyes.
In case you haven't heard, they are switching to sc2 because of its foreign popularity.
That may be true, but it seemed bw was on the decline since the savior incident. They have nowadays really trouble finding sponsors for team8, osl, etc. And it is not because those are sponsoring korean sc2 teams. I feel like this is more of a last chance to revive the korean esports scene by including sc2. Well, this is all speculation and we never know how starcraft would have developed if the sequel didn't came out. I just find it hard to believe that sc2 killed the professional korean bw scene.
Not doubt it was declining but without sc2 they wouldn't end bw altogether and they certainly wouldn't switch just off the popularity of the game in korea.
Without SC2 brood war would still die anyways. LoL would totally take over that scene. (more than it already is... /WRISTS)Last edit: 2012-04-21 05:24:04 |
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